USC- Sanctions, Anyone?
I read this morning on ESPN that yet another blue chip quarterback has committed to the Trojans. For months, going on years, I have been wondering what, if anything is going to happen to USC for alleged serious NCAA violations involving Reggie Bush and nearly every player recruited under Pete Carrol. As the time goes by, and the question of "what is going to happen to USC" almost seems to become a rhetorical question, Kiffin gets hired, blue chip after blue chip recruits swarm to So-Cal, time marches on.
This investigation started in 2006, NCAA went all judge-jury-executioner on Michigan in like six months for exceeding, uhh, stetching(???) regulations during the off-season. Reggie Bush got paid, USC players had houses and cars and bling. The NCAA has their answers, was Carrol's departure enough to shut this thing down. If USC is continuing to clean up on the recruiting trail, are these kids just OK with playing for a program on probation and banned from bowl eligibility, or are the Trojans going to be allowed to basketball-saction away their crimes against humanity. I have done some limited research on the course of the investigation and have found very little. What the hell is going on with USC, and when?
April 26th, 2010 at 10:58 AM ^
(Ryan Mallett) would have stayed for. It's all pure conjecture but I know people that actually knew him and he was as huge of a douche as people say and he wanted to go home.
The ONLY way that RM would have stayed IMO is if Mitch Mustain didn't leave Arkansas.
In this galaxy he left therefore there is no way that RM would have stayed with any coach...
April 26th, 2010 at 11:01 AM ^
was probably a bad example.
My point is that we lost players and some who stayed would have been playmakers for Carr's offense, but not the spread.
You bring up another major point, though...Lloyd Carr put waaaaay too many eggs in Ryan Mallett's basket.
April 26th, 2010 at 11:07 AM ^
and at most positions. He'd promise the starting job to a kid by a certain time and it was set in stone.
Think about it throughout his tenure there was never a competition until Brady/Henson and even when there was a competition it was between a Junior and a Freshman... Which shouldn't be much of a competition.
He seemed to do that with QBs and Corners particularly.
April 26th, 2010 at 10:50 AM ^
I refuse to settle for 12-0.
April 26th, 2010 at 11:59 AM ^
But, dude, if you don't know who Marcus Ray is, and you want to willfully ignore guys like Terrell, or James Whitley, or Adrian Arrington, or Manningham, or Sears, or Eugene Germany, that's an indication that:
a) you have precious little perspective if the names of All-American's on our National Championship team don't ring a bell
b) the little perspective you DO have you choose to conveniently ignore in the service of maintaining a completely ignorant argument
April 26th, 2010 at 10:19 AM ^
If nothing happens to Ohio State with Clarrett, with all of the evidence, and former players stepping forward, then I have zero confidence anything will happen to USC
April 26th, 2010 at 11:52 AM ^
And if I am not mistaken, didn't OSU lead the Big Ten in minor violations by like a 10 to 1 ratio, which led there AD to make some comment about how it made him proud that they were so forethcoming on self reporting? Amazing what winning does to a coach's reputation.
That story made me want to throw up. The school 2nd to them was Oklahoma, and they were still 100 behind. Pure bullshit.
April 26th, 2010 at 10:45 AM ^
So far we are two for two with meltdowns when the usc song girls show up. I like this trend.
April 26th, 2010 at 11:23 AM ^
Not that I agree at all with the trolls here, but the M fans (or any team's fans) that are assuming USC gets sanctions of any kind are wasting their time. Did USC violate the rules? Maybe. Might they get in trouble for it? It's possible. But the people assuming it's a matter of when instead of if, might be getting ahead of themselves.
Instead of worrying about USC or any other team getting in trouble, let's worry about Michigan getting awesome and beating these teams on the field.
April 26th, 2010 at 11:41 AM ^
You should focus your energy in another direction. Nothing is probably going to come out of this and even if something does it will probably be minimal. I for one would not be upset if I am wrong and they get slapped hard. But I'm also not going to let it bother me enough to "create content" on a Michigan football chatboard, but to each their own.
content and respond to it.
April 26th, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
The NCAA often takes a loooooong time to punish MAJOR violations. Just remember - it took them 5 years after the Mo Taylor/Cleaves car-wreck to bring the boom down on Michigan. We won like 2 NIT's and the Big 10 Championship with the guilty players, and graduated them before we were punished. The fact that nothing has happened yet is really indicative of nothing.
April 26th, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^
I guess the truth may be that the longer the investigation the more serious the offenses.
April 26th, 2010 at 12:05 PM ^
With Bush settling his case with the agents that were supplying the extra benefits, what does that do to this investigation? Just another way for these sanctions to slip away, but I'm hoping not!
April 26th, 2010 at 12:35 PM ^
We don't know with certainty that USC did anything. It's certainly possible that they did and there is shadiness all around, but do we mere mortals with no involvement in the investigation know anymore than the actual officials? Doubtful.
The trolls may have said something that sounds similar, but that doesn't make them right. Instead of trying to reason, they make obnoxious, provocative comments.
April 26th, 2010 at 12:56 PM ^
there is a lot of evidence that Yahoo Sports posted in an article a few months back.
Moreover, Reggie Bush just paid a $1 million settlement to a guy for not choosing him as an agent.
"The settlement comes just days before Bush was expected to give a court-ordered deposition in the suit, centering on $300,000 in unpaid rent, cash and other benefits allegedly provided to the Heisman Trophy winner and his family while he was at USC."
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushcase042110
Another link:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushprobe
In summary, there is proof, lots of it, mostly uncovered by Yahoo! Sports. The NCAA may be processing all of this, but so far has done absolutely nothing.
Okay, I'm being naive. A big part of it, strangely enough, is that I trust journalists much less since the Freep orchestrated practicegate, even though all the alleged violations at USC are hardly innocuous things that happen all over the place due to murky rules. And while UM has been forthcoming as it had been with basketball, USC hasn't, as far as I can tell. I mean, Pete Carroll left after last year. One can only speculate.
I should be the first to say that the NCAA is a joke, which it is. I'm just curious to see if there is some stuff from the other side that we're not hearing, if some USC blogger is Brian Cooking the allegations.
April 26th, 2010 at 12:50 PM ^
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Isn't Bush about to give a deposition to the feds? That could be a reason why the NCAA is waiting on this case.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/sports/ncaafootball/21usc.html
"The N.C.A.A.’s decision on U.S.C.’s punishment, if it decides to punish the program, will not come for at least six weeks."
"The timetable after the committee’s hearings is typically six to eight weeks, but an N.C.A.A. spokeswoman said that complicated cases could take longer."
Be patient. It is supposed to take this long.