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Quarterback situation resolving soon

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NV QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson announces in four days:

Just hours after returning home from a weekend visit to Ann Arbor, the four-star quarterback from Las Vegas (Nev.) Bishop Gorman announced that he would be choosing between Michigan and UCLA on Apr. 23, ending what has been a fast ascending recruitment.

Lorenz recently flipped his crystal balls to UCLA, and many folks are following. Webb had been pessimistic a few weeks ago and hasn't given any indication he's heard differently. With Michigan out of visit ammo that would appear to be that.

If that recruitment ends in favor of the Bruins, Michigan moves on to its other main targets: FL QB Joe Milton and AZ QB Tyler Shough. They could get one... they could get both. Michigan recently told both DTR and Shough that they would take two QBs. That is a surprise in a small class after back-to-back high level prospects. That implies that Michigan likes all three of their targets quite a bit.

In Shough's case, so does Alabama:

"Coach (Tosh) Lupoi offered me and he told me I'm the QB they're looking for in this class. Jalen Hurts was more of a dual-threat type this last season but with their new offense they're trying to get back to more pro-style. They'd want me to command the offense. They came out of nowhere, really. I wasn't talking to them before but my coach gave me their number so I called them and they offered."

Whether that's an "offer" or an OFFER is, as always, unclear. Shough does have vague summer visit plans to Tuscaloosa. His May 13th visit to Michigan is still on and that could be a commit watch situation.

Meanwhile, Milton also visited for the spring game. Lorenz reports that the coaching staff is enamored with his general shape. Someone called him a "holy specimen," which is definitely a phrase used to describe angels instead of people. After returning he talked to 24/7 Florida mod Luke Stampini:

“The visit, it helped them move up, because I didn’t know Michigan was a school like that,” Milton admitted. “I didn’t know the background of Michigan, but now I do.”

Stampini thinks that it won't be Florida, the presumed leader, and that Michigan and Georgia are the main contenders. A decision won't be long coming here, either: Milton says he wants to commit this spring. We've put in a CB pick on Milton based on some things we've heard.

Either way won't be more than a month before Michigan's quarterback, or quarterbacks, situation is resolved.

Ditto instate OL?

Scout

Trieu has an article on upwardly mobile MI OL Ryan Hayes, who's moving towards a decision "sooner than late summer." It looks pretty good for Michigan:

"The most familiarity we had is with Coach Frey [at Michigan]," Hayes said. "He recruited Connor at Indiana and he and my family have a really good relationship."

"I had never been to Michigan actually," he added. "I just had never gotten there. It was really cool. It really blew me away and really surprised me actually."

It would be a "huge surprise" to Trieu if it wasn't Michigan, and in the near future. Frey loves bulking up athletic TE/OT types and Hayes was actually a tight end last year; this looks like a perfect match.

Meanwhile, MI OL Jalen Mayfield is going to be yet another Michigan/ND battle, it appears:

Grand Rapids (Mich.) Catholic Central four-star offensive tackle Jalen Mayfield will be in South Bend this weekend.

The 6-5, 255-pounder from the class of 2018, a former Minnesota commit, will make his first trip to Notre Dame in search of an offer from the Fighting Irish.

Mayfield recently worked out at The Opening Chicago and was terrific. He showed athleticism, impressive footwork, and the strength and physicality you look for in a top-level offensive tackle.

Just a few days ago Mayfield described his return visit to Michigan as "phenomenal" and named a final three of Michigan, MSU, and Iowa, so ND's interest is new and probably the only thing that can threaten Michigan's standing.

Side note: Mayfield makes it eight guys so far who have probably been down to Michigan and ND. Five of those have gone ND's way, with Christian Turner currently the Michigan win. Weird, since ND went 4-8 last year.

Also in instate OL going off the board in the near future or recent past: happy trails to MI OL Tyrone Sampson Jr, who committed to Syracuse. Sampson recruitment is an odd one. Despite consistent high level praise from recruiting analysts he never picked up big, or even middling, offers. That includes MSU, despite the prospect that the Spartans will be shut out of the top 8 in state for the second straight year. Sampson might be a name who re-emerges late in the cycle if Michigan has an unexpected amount of room.

Uh... ditto the secondary?

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imagine the jerseys if the Green twins commit

Michigan's hosted what might be their top three remaining secondary targets just after the spring game: TX CB twins Gemon and German Green and NJ S Shayne Simon both took in Ann Arbor early this week. Simon's mom and aunt are both alums; Lorenz and Webb both assert that Michigan has been pedal-to-the-metal with his recruitment. He's a the type of kid where ND/Stanford are the threats, FWIW.

Meanwhile the Green twins are candidates to drop soon. Webb asserts that his gut tells him that if signing day was today it would be Michigan for both; Texas 24/7 mod EJ Holland and Lorenz have both put in CBs for both to Michigan. Holland believes that both guys are interested in sticking closer to home but the package deal is a major consideration—as it often is with twins—and Michigan is currently the biggest offer for German, who tore his ACL last year.

Knife edge here, in your author's e-pinion. If they do not drop in the near future I'd interpret that as the Greens hoping that a Big 12 school will offer German as well and that Michigan will eventually fade away once that happens.

Mustapha re-eval

Some early chatter that Michigan and TX TE Mustapha Muhammad were very likely to get together faded, but after Muhammad returned to Ann Arbor for the spring game there's been a serious reversal in fortunes. Webb lets you read between the lines:

“I’m definitely taking my visits,” he continued. “I’ve always told myself that I plan on committing on national signing day.  That’s when I want to publicly announce where I decide to go to school.”

Publicly might be the operative word.

Judging by the 247 crystal ball: yup. Starting with Lorenz four days ago, 21 folks have issued M predictions, including Wiltfong and all the relevant Texas experts. Any guy taking his recruitment to signing day and going on visits is some threat to change his mind, but it really looks like it would be a change of mind if that were to happen.

Let's re-project the class

I did this in February, when it was very silly. It is much less silly now. So let's do it:

State Position Player Approx. Stars Confidence Level
AZ QB Tyler Shough 3.5 High
GA RB Christian Turner 3 Commit
USA FB Some Guy 3 Low
NJ WR Jahan Dotson 4 Moderate
WA WR Tre'Shaun Harrison 4 Moderate
FL TE Will Mallory 4 High
NY TE Jeremy Ruckert 4.5 Moderate
TX TE Mustapha Muhammad 4 High
IN OL Emil Ekiyor 4 Commit
FL OL Daniel Faalele ? Moderate
MI OL Ryan Hayes 4 Very High
MI OL Jalen Mayfield 3.5 Very High
NJ DT Tyler Friday 4.5 Moderate
MI DE Aidan Hutchinson 4 Commit
FL DE Nik Bonitto 4 Low
GA LB Otis Reese 4 Commit
TX CB Gemon Green 4 High
TX CB German Green 3 High
GA S Myles Sims 4 Commit
NJ S Shayne Simon 4 High

Still holding at 20 members of the class, FWIW.

Grudging 2019 section

MI CB Marvin Grant did not make it to the spring game because he could not get a ride; not likely to impact his recruitment, which seems to favor Michigan early. On the other hand, Michigan fielded a significant 2019 visit when KY DE Stephon Herron Jr returned to campus:

[Herron] was palling around with Emil Ekiyor quite a bit and was permanently smiling. I saw both of his parents afterwards walking around The Al Glick Field House and they were all smiles as well. I'd bet that their conversation on the way home was very, very pro Michigan.

That's a second long distance unofficial in two months for Herron and that was enough for us to put in an early CB for him. OSU has fielded three visits, so that's speculative. 

KY DT Jacob Lacey was highly positive on twitter after his spring game visit:

Michigan is "right at the top" for him; ND leads on the crystal ball.

You can pencil FL LB Anthony Solomon into the 2019 class, as his second long-distance unofficial to Ann Arbor was a five-day affair, which may be unprecedented in the annals of unofficial visits.

NJ CB Nyquee Hawkins visited for the spring game as well.

Etc.

Lorenz says he's hearing "amazingly different" things on CT CB and Miami commit Josh Jobe, which range from him sticking with said commit to being a Michigan lock to being an Alabama flip. That "CT" is new, by the way, as Jobe is attending Cheshire Academy this fall. Don Brown is big in Japan Connecticut, so that can't hurt. FWIW, Tarik Black just graduated from Cheshire.

Michigan made a "huge move" with MO WR Kamyrn Babb; Wiltfong still sticking with OSU CB. Massive OH WR L'Christian Smith is "definitely" interested in Michigan; former teammate Tyree Kinnel is helping recruit him. Kid is nicknamed "blue," so that's a good sign, right?

OH DE Malik Vann commits to Cincinnati over Michigan State. Which is a thing that's happening now.

Comments

Kevin13

April 20th, 2017 at 11:40 AM ^

went and watched his film today, for the first time. I was pretty impressed with Milton. He has very good arm strength and pocket pressence. He does a good job of keeping his eyes downfield when on the move and throws a very catchable. Knows when to zip it or when to put nice touch on the ball.

He has a few mechanical issues with footwork, where he holds the football, but stuff Harbaugh and Pep could get fixed in a year or two.

I actually like Milton better the DTR.

Bertello NC

April 21st, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^

Ya Milton will need some development in terms of footwork and where and how he holds the ball. Like you said he does a good job of keeping his eyes downfield and looks to be comfortable throwing on the run. The mechanics in terms of footwork and his base from which he throws from needs to get better which JH and Hamilton could work on. Seems a little more raw in comparison to DTR. Not that it's a bad thing. Also has good size.

M-Dog

April 19th, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^

The uni names for the Green twins are going to take some work . . .

Green and Green.  No.

            G. Green and G. Green.  Um, no.

            Ge. Green and Ge. Green.  Still no.

            So, Gem. Green and Ger. Green?

            OK.  Gem and Ger it is.

 

michiganinmd

April 19th, 2017 at 5:07 PM ^

The side note said  "Mayfield makes it eight guys so far who have probably been down to Michigan and ND. Five of those have gone ND's way, with Christian Turner currently the Michigan win."

I think I have 4 of the Notre Dame wins (same as last year) figured out: Kalon Gervin, Markese Stepp, and the Ademilola twins, but who is the last one?

Also Are you thinking Ryan Hayes and Jalen Mayfield are the two remaining battles? Or were you thinking Shayne Simon instead of Hayes?

Dallas Walmart…

April 19th, 2017 at 5:20 PM ^

Hayes looks super skinny and Mayfield is 255 lbs.  I get that they may be great prospects that you want in the fold long-term, but at those weights it seems they are unlikely to be able to contribute as freshmen.  On top of that, I keep hearing tackles are a huge priority for this recruiting class.  So if we end up taking commitments from these two, I guess that means the coaches are comfortable with where things are at for tackles next year?  Seems strange given the general uneasiness re the readiness of tackles that will be on the roster this year (and the impending graduation of Cole).

Gentleman Squirrels

April 19th, 2017 at 5:32 PM ^

With regards to Hayes and Mayfield being ready to contribute as freshman, no they will not be able to. Nor should they. Tackle is definitely a spot you don't want a freshman to play and I think we have players on the team now/ are coming with this cycle who are closer to be ready to play. Hayes and Mayfield, however, are excellent development prospects who will take a year or two to get up to the necessary weight level and with a redshirt year, they can have 2 maybe 3 years to contribute.

blueturtle

April 19th, 2017 at 8:25 PM ^

UM is getting back to where they'll be able to red shirt almost all recruits to the OL and DL. Having a year around the program with the level of coaching will produce a stream of great linemen. The OL will have a second string better than 75 percent of teams. It may cause Moo U to apply for membership in the MAC.

MichLax

April 19th, 2017 at 5:20 PM ^

Hilarious how shook Urbz has the star gazers right now. How delusional do you have to be to question Jim Harbaugh when it comes to football?

TampaJake

April 19th, 2017 at 5:47 PM ^

So I watched him participate in 5 or 6, 7 v 7 games at IMG in Regionals a month ago.  He looks VERY impressive and threw many interceptions.  I was the White Hat so I was right behind him and could see his reads...while I am no QB, it looked as though he was being told/coached to throw a designated route/guy each throw so perhaps it's not fair.

I'm sure our coaching staff can fix whatever ails him...but its hard to get over he is a mountain of a man at his young age.

TampaJake

April 19th, 2017 at 9:19 PM ^

Well he looked awesome, physically.  Then he started throwing passes...many were intercepted.  It may be the shitty coaching they get in the club leagues, IDK?  He had a strong arm, he looked like he was solid and strong his feet looked like other good QB's.  (I am not an evaluator).

Jonesy

April 19th, 2017 at 7:08 PM ^

It's still a bummer to not be a favorite for any 5 stars, last year we had DPJ, before Gary and Walker (tho he fell), Peppers 2 years before that...

KalkaskaWolverine

April 19th, 2017 at 11:04 PM ^

With all of the concern with the depth of the defensive line I'm shocked to only see oneDT on that list. They are going to need young guys who are ready to play of Hurst and Mone are graduating.