Wilson and Wagner projected late first round in several mocks.
Ahh, I thought second round gave some kind of guaranteed money, even though you're not guaranteed any kind of roster spot.
Even if you're offerring a base of, say, $275,000 a year, that's a lot of money. Most people bust their asses their whole life and don't even make half that in a year.
Where are your sources/links? Someone else is already claiming you're wrong and it's only 1 mock that says what you've said.
The game of basketball also has smaller people called guards, right? The NBA draft isn't two rounds of 60 big men.
Shit, who would the last pick be? The big dude from my high school?
Misread your intention.
We are in agreement.
I've only seen the one that has Wilson at 29th. Draft Express seems to me to be the most reliable one over the last few years and neither player is listed as going in either round in their latest version
Get out of here with your facts and fancy knowledge!
DOES work is that throwing your hat in the ring when the draft class is incredibly deep and potentially not being a 1st rounder would be catastrophic to him.
I'd argue that Nik would have developed more under an extra year of Beilein than sitting on the bench in Sac-town.
in a results league where no one gave a fuck that psycopath and best player on the team DeMarcus Cousins was trying to ruin Nik's life and career, probably because he was pissed he wasn't ready to contribute.
they were never going to get drafted that high again - they both got into the damn lottery - no one can argue with that call.
Once you're a lottery pick, life can't turn out that bad unless you really are bad or you're a complete fuck up.
I don't know who was arguing they should return. Most people I knew were on board with that being the time to jump.
should get 50 lashes with a wet noodle. I mean, c'mon!
Good no doubt
I called DJ as a potential NBA player as early as the Barclays game against Villanova. And Beilein spotted his ability and recruited him while tons of M fans were like "why this guy with the funny hair."
And then you want to deny JB and staff a role in his skills development, etc.
I can't even with this bullshit.
He said he's staying at UM. Could have been the 20 or so beers people had bought him as he reveled in the crowd.
doesn't do a damn thing to improve your game, why not just go all the way and say that playing college ball to begin with is useless? If you can't improve from junior to senior, and from sophomore to junior, why do we accept the notion that freshmen improve going to sophomores?
In other words, it's high time we dispense with the ridiculous notion that there is such a thing as developed skill. All of us are born with everything we're ever going to have, and the idea of "training" and "developing" our talents in "school" is just an elite term for repressing our natural abilities. In particular, the idea that John Beilein or Jim Harbaugh or any of their coaches have anything of value to impart to 20-year olds is fanciful nonsense.
Maybe I'm just looking at the wrong mock drafts, but I've not seen either Wilson of Wagner listed as 1st-rounders save Chad Ford with Moe at 25, which seems in line with Ford's love of foreign-born players. I think both these guys have the talent to be 1st-rounders, but neither looked like consistent stars this year, and the lottery is absolutely in reach with solid junior years.
draft position.
All this stuff about "unlimited practice time" is horseshit. You know who else has unlimited practice time? The guy trying to eat your lunch.
Either get a first round contract where the team has made an investment in you and you have 3 years to get it right or come into the league ready to contribute to a team. This whole "it's all about potential" stuff is dated, y'all are running at least a few years behind. Teams want productive players or ceiling is the roof type talents.
Falling into the second round as an underclassman, particularly one not carrying residual hype from a top ranking entering college is risky.
And the goal is the second, third, and fourth contract. That's achieved by either being a sunk investment for a team so you can develop toward those latter contracts or being a guy who is useful in year one, so that you prove yourself as enough of a contributor that teams keep signing you.
It's all in the study:
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/first-round-why-it-matters
excerpt:
"The facts very clearly display that it is far, far better to land in the first round of the NBA Draft - both for the guaranteed contract and the higher likelihood of establishing yourself in a league where it pays to play many years rather than a few - they print funny money for just about everyone besides first, second, and third year players in the NBA, stars or not. Willie Green, who in a 12 year career has averaged 10 points per game twice, had banked more than $22 million at the end of 2014. I studied draft years 2003-2013, and as the tables and charts show, there is a distinct difference between length of the careers that start in the first round and those that start in the 2nd..."
(and yes, I performed the whole experiment of comparing last 5 in the first round to first five in the second round - results were still dramatic - a core of my study was comparing the non-lottery first round to the second round - the results were not only still dramatic, but remarkably similar to/consistent with the overall discrepancy between outcomes for first rounders vs. second rounders. I think the link is really worth clicking on - I think it makes a strong case that the people saying second round is just fine frankly don't know what they're talking about. The math says you're wrong.)