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Life comes at you fast. From We Want Bama to the above in under a year. EDSBS says no, no, no, don't no not that:

YOU SEE THAT THIS IS BASICALLY A EUTHANASIA HEADLINE RIGHT? THAT MICHIGAN STATE DIDN’T LOSE THIS GAME, BUT INSTEAD GOT SOME KIND OF WASTING DISEASE AND TRIED TO MAKE IT COUNT BEFORE THEY DIED? WAS MORGAN FREEMAN ON THE SIDELINES TO ACCOMPANY MICHIGAN STATE AS THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY WANTED TO BEFORE THE GRIM END ARRIVED? OH COOL, MICHIGAN STATE, YOUR FONDEST WISH WAS TO HOLD MICHIGAN SCORELESS FOR A QUARTER BEFORE DISPLAYING A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING FOR BASIC SCORING MATH. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. WE’LL CUT THE TRAILER TO “HOLOCENE” AND RELEASE IT IN TIME FOR OSCAR CONSIDERATION.

Come for the all-caps rant, stay for the discussion of the most Michigan serial killer. I've still got HH Holmes. North Campus represent.

Life also runs away from you fast. This isn't quite a 40, but in pads at the end of a game where you played both ways it's still eyepopping:

He might test okay at the combine.

The Stribling Q. How good is he? He had a rough couple plays against MSU but the verdict still appears to be "very good." PFF just published a snapshot of their top corners as rated by NFL passer rating when targeted. Michigan's CBs are #2 and #3, nationally, behind Clemson's Mark Fields. Stats:

  • Lewis has allowed 4 completions on 17 targets for 2.9 YPA with two INTs.
  • Stribling has allowed 10 completions on 35 attempts for 4.1 YPA, one TD, and three INTs.

The only other Big Ten corners on the list are OSU's starters at #7 and #10.

Higdon on his future. Interesting quote from him in a Chengelis profile:

“It was really me looking at life after football, Football is not a promising game. You never know when your last snap or play is going to be, so you have to think about the things that’s going to build you as a person versus building you as a football player. I live with no regrets."

He said the choice between Michigan and Iowa made him "sick to his stomach"; that whole Higdon/Weber thing was balanced on a knife edge.

The Debordenberg Project. Tennessee had a moment there when they were recovering every ball that hit the turf and seemed like a top ten team if you didn't look to closely. After three straight losses, the most recent to South Carolina, not so much.

Losing to year one Will Muschamp is bad enough. Virtually photoshopping yourself into an internet meme at a press conference is worse:

“This football team’s fine,” Jones said. “This football program’s fine. I love our fan base. Everything is fine. We’re going to be just fine.”

Survey says... eh, he's probably right. Tennessee finishes the year against Tennessee Tech, Kentucky, Missouri, and Vanderbilt. They should be a deeply unsatisfying 9-3.

Meanwhile in Mike Debord Is A Coordinator For A Power 5 Program:

"South Carolina was trying to take away the long ball," DeBord told members of the Knoxville Quarterback Club at Calhoun's on the River on Monday. "They didn’t want to give up big plays and they didn’t. The other thing is what we see every week, and it’s been interesting, but what we’re seeing on film throughout the week, teams are changing it up. What you practice against is not always what you see in the game. That’s having to adjust with our players and things like that."

IS THIS A NEW CONCEPT TO YOU

AAAAARGH THIS IS HOW A TEAM WITH TOM BRADY, ANTHONY THOMAS AND LIKE FOUR NFL LINEMEN AVERAGED 3.5 YPC IN 2000

NO I'M NOT OVER THAT

no you're being unreasonable

Fine. It's not our problem any more and I should be nice to Mike DeBord even if he seems to just be cottoning on to the fact teams will try to trick you 30 years into his career. I think I called Michigan a Queensbury's Rules program under Lloyd Carr and... yep. Yep yep yep.

Basketball scrimmages Akron. Kudos to Tony Paul, who got enough about it to post an article—I don't recall Michigan's "secret scrimmage" getting any coverage before this year. Akron is a MAC favorite and in a scrimmage scenario you're going to get a lot of rotation that won't continue in competitive games; I wouldn't read much into the score. Akron "might've" won one of the halves per Paul, which rather emphasizes the lack of emphasis to put on scoring.

On the other hand this is a very nice thing to hear:

Sophomore big man Moritz Wagner, who really came on at the end of his freshman season in the postseason, had a big game against Akron and figures to be "a matchup problem" for several opposing teams, the person in attendance said.

Paul also reports that Jon Teske seemed ahead of Austin Davis in the race to be Michigan's third center, which is a mild surprise after the open practice Michigan had.

Kickers on Kenny Allen. Andrew Kahn talks to Kickin' Compentency Lopata and Garrett Rivas about Kenny Allen's workload. Some really interesting inside baseball therein:

“As great as special teams coaches are, I think most of them don’t know the mechanics of kicking and punting,” Lopata said. “In terms of making a change or what’s actually going on with kicks and punts, the vast majority of players rely on other kickers on the team, a personal coach, and themselves. One of the biggest things I try to instill in the players I coach is self-correction—being able to give yourself objective feedback regarding your mechanics.”

That is not to say U-M’s coaches aren’t paying attention. A couple of weeks ago, Harbaugh said he’d noticed that Allen was rushing some of his kicks. “You want to be in that 1.25, 1.3 [second] operation time and he was getting down there one time where he was 1.1.”

Lopata watches games very closely and liked what he saw last Saturday from Allen. “He’s doing a lot of great things with his body positioning—keeping his chest up and having a smooth and fluid follow-through. The biggest tell is what’s happening with the ball. Although PATs are short, judging from the ball rotation and how high up on the net it is, I can tell he’s back to striking the ball flush.

“You want to see an end-over-end rotation and the ball rotating at the right speed—not too fast or too slow; just at that nice, correct pace, which you only know if you see it.”

Article was posted Friday and Allen made good on Lopata's observations, going 3/3 and hitting a 44-yarder. Whole thing recommended.

Hayden Lavigne's backstory. Zach Shaw on Michigan's #1 or #2 or #3 goaltender:

In 2013, Lavigne committed to the Wolverines when he was 17. It was supposed to be a simple story of a talented Canadian taking his game to Michigan before advancing to the pros, but that got shot to hell.

In the fragile position of goaltending, Lavigne became shattered goods in the United States Hockey League. Cut twice in two years in the league, his career was in jeopardy, and Michigan passed on taking him in two years in a row.

But as Lavigne shifted, lunged, batted, swung at and stopped all 31 shots Union peppered at him in his first college game earlier this month, it was clear that he had put the pieces together.

Goalies are weird.

Lavigne figures to get a lot of opportunities to prove his worth over the course of the season: Michigan got swept last weekend by bad teams and massively outshot. They've managed to defy possession, Corsi, and plain old shot totals en route to a decent start, but they're starting to come back to earth. Unless they radically improve their level of play they won't be in the tournament, or anywhere near it. They were outshot 42-21 by Vermont. They are probably the worst team Red Berenson has fielded since the very beginning of his tenure.

Etc.: if you were confused about Pat Narduzzi to Purdue twitter yesterday, the Crimson Quarry explains. Kinda. Playoff rankings tonight, will be anticlimactic. Glasgows gonna Glasgow. Josh Rosen's out for the year, which might help Michigan in some UCLA/M recruiting battles as the Bruins go 4-8 and Jim Mora goes Brian Kelly on the sideline a bunch. The money's got to go somewhere. Hinton on Peppers's Heisman chances.

Comments

WolverineHistorian

November 1st, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^

1999 was the year of the rushing depth issues outside of A-Train. I think BJ Askew was the next leading rusher with....very little rushing yards.

I remember Musberger bringing up the depth issue in the game at Penn State ("We're so used to seeing Michigan with more depth!"). But that was the farewell to Jerry Sandusky final game at Beaver Stadium celebration and that got most the attention.



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Rufus X

November 1st, 2016 at 1:27 PM ^

...He was drafted in 2000. But the proprietors of this blog always look for a chance to bash Lloyd Carr at every opportunity, even if it means commenting on a middling SEC team's mediocre offense. Obviously it is Lloyd's influence as a terrible coach that is causing MIke Debord to suck at Tennessee.  

You would think the RichRod/Hoke era may have cured some people of their hatred of Lloyd. Apparently not. It's time to let it go, guys.

1974

November 1st, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^

"You would think the RichRod/Hoke era may have cured some people of their hatred of Lloyd." Suggestion: Separate the issues (or, to the point, judgements of the coaches). The RichRod and Hoke years didn't change my opinion of Lloyd and his staff.

Rufus X

November 1st, 2016 at 2:12 PM ^

Separating Hoke from Rodriguez eras does not change my point, which is that people should appreciate Lloyd Carr more as a coach after we had to live through those two eras, or one era, or however many eras you think it was.  

1974

November 1st, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^

I'll try again. I suggested that Lloyd be judged independently of whatever happened the next seven years. Does that seem objective and reasonable (and *not* emotional)? If Harbaugh wins a couple of national championships, will you like Lloyd any less? - - - One other thing: I said earlier that Lloyd was a very good coach. One thing that kept him from greatness was his mediocre coaching staff. DeBord was on the roster. He hasn't distinguished himself in other coaching jobs (Central Michigan, Tennessee). Look at Bo's staff in comparison. Numerous members of it went on to prosper at other schools.

Rufus X

November 1st, 2016 at 3:51 PM ^

This blog has always been anti-Lloyd, and this obsession with DeBord is just a carryover from that.

Everyone on this blog was happy to see Lloyd retire, because apparently consistent big ten chapionships, new years' bowl games, and a national championship weren't good enough, because he was "old fashioned" in his offensive philosophy (codeword "manball"), or "too loyal to his assistants" (Ask Jim Herrmann about that)

My point was this: In the darkest days of the subsequent Rodriguez and later Hoke eras you would think they might appreciate the consistent success Lloyd had more, even if they disagreed with it's mechanisms (i.e. offense and defensive philosophies). But then we read more about "The Debordenberg project" with references to "Queensbury's (sic) Rules program under Lloyd Carr" and we realize that they have no such appreciation, and instead will bash Lloyd in perpetuity.

They were ready to usher in the Enlightened Age of Football where every QB is dual threat and every snap is shotgun. The grass was greener on the Spread and Shred side of the fence.  They were wrong, obviously, but they are not willing to admit it.  That's all I am saying.

jmblue

November 1st, 2016 at 5:05 PM ^

Let me address this.  I am someone who mostly thinks favorably of Carr.  I didn't think his offensive system was a problem, just his risk-averse tendencies.  While I thought RR would be a success here when we hired him, there was a part of me that was sad that we were going to shed our offensive identity that had served us well for so long.  That said:

Brian, by his own admission, is a "spread zealot."  It's true that he confidently predicted, a decade ago, that the spread was the next big thing in college football.  He definitely got tired of Carr and wanted a change.  He predicted big things when RR was hired, and made a lot of excuses for him for awhile. 

But it's also true that the spread has taken over -  every program has some shotgun, 4-WR formations in its playbook.  Not every team has a dual-threat QB, but everyone runs the read option at least once in a while - not only do we run it with Peppers, we've even run a bit of it with Rudock and Speight.  The Harbaugh offense is not the Carr offense.  And while RR was a disaster here, his problem was not the offensive side of the ball, at least not by year 3 - it was everything else (defense, special teams, recruiting, etc.).  And I think a big reason why RR seems to be flatlining at Arizona is that his offense no longer stands out like it once did - everyone has seen the stuff he runs.

I don't think Brian intends to fight any sort of rearguard action against Carr.  If he seems to criticize Carr more than RR, it's probably because the latter's tenure was so self-evidently disastrous that there's little point in bringing it up, whereas Carr had this program on the brink of being dominant but (outside of '97) didn't take those final steps to do it. Harbaugh is taking those final steps.  He is answering the criticisms many had about Carr.  

 

Rufus X

November 1st, 2016 at 8:34 PM ^

Agree 100% with everything you said. My original point was simply that Brian's obsessive bashing of all things Lloyd is revealing his biases, and that it is time to move on and simply admit that the Lloyd Carr, while imperfect, was way better than his next two successors, by comparison.



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reshp1

November 1st, 2016 at 1:20 PM ^

Interesting to hear the kicking coach talk about the rotation of the ball. Going back to the Wisconsin game, something just seemed off about Allen's kicks and I think what it was was that the ball was spinning too fast. They seemed to have a ton of backspin but not a lot of velocity, which made them kind of hang up in the air a long time before ultimately drifting wide. That's good news he thinks it's resolved, hope it stays that way.

Amaizing Blue

November 1st, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^

Then I would remember that I'm a Tennessee fan, and that my team has also:

-Run off the only head coach who ever won a national championship there.

-Hired Butch Jones to enable rapists-er, I mean, turn the program around.

-Let Butch Jones hire Mike DeBord as his OC.  Apparently Borges wasn't available?

-Crapped the bed in almost every important game in the last 30 years.

-Had the luckiest 5-game run in recent history to start the season.

 

...And I would become sad.  Because I would know that things are unlikely to get better anytime soon, and yet I'm still stuck with being a Tennessee fan.

jmblue

November 1st, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^

Why an (at the time) up-and-coming coach like Jones hired DeBord remains a mystery.  His football coaching career appeared to be finished until Jones resurrected it.

Incidentally, the current version of DeBord's Wikipedia page is amusing:

 

Mike DeBord (born February 7, 1956) is an American football coach. He currently serves poorly as the offensive coordinator at the University of Tennessee, much to the dismay of many fans.

jonock14

November 1st, 2016 at 3:55 PM ^

As amazing as this is to type, just two short years ago Michigan fans were feeling the same way, with an extra dose of AD incompetence.  We felt that not only were things not going to change for a while, but that it had become "unfun" to watch the team we loved, with no signs of improvement or competence. 

Then Hackett --> Harbaugh --> Nike/Jordan and here we are. 

oriental andrew

November 1st, 2016 at 2:12 PM ^

Great article/piece by Andrew Kahn. As an FYI, UM Hoops just announced that Andrew will start contributing there. If this is typical of his work, I'm looking forward to M basketball-specific pieces by him. 

whoknew

November 1st, 2016 at 2:54 PM ^

This quote is really strange - 

As great as special teams coaches are, I think most of them don’t know the mechanics of kicking and punting,” Lopata said.

If you are an NCAA special teams coach, wouldn't you study everything about kicking? Even if you've never kicked in your life, it seems like you'd read/study so much that you'd become an expert. Weird that they don't seem to do that.

Fishbulb

November 1st, 2016 at 8:22 PM ^

I don't find it strange. Can't think of a former kicker who is special-teams coach. I think they all know the basics, but it's such a specialized thing. It's like golf. An average golfer can give a beginner some useful tips, but it takes someone really experienced and specialized to turn the average golfer into a very good one.



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Michigan Arrogance

November 1st, 2016 at 6:48 PM ^

UVM is not a bad team. They won't contend for the HE title, bc BU will go 40-0 this year, but they are a solid team who will be on the bubble this year in march.

Dartmouth however, is bad and Michigan should feel bad about that whole weekend.



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