stephenrjking

September 7th, 2016 at 4:15 PM ^

Much like 1997 Michigan, the players were taught by Mattison before being handed off to someone else.

And they were talented, but remember that 08 Florida's calling card was its offense. Its defense was also great, but not an all-timer or even the best one in the nation that year, and they occasionally gave up points. 

It's an interesting comparison. Hard to tell what it means right now.

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RainbowSprings

September 7th, 2016 at 3:51 PM ^

But Rolo's no doubt also using his lofty praise as an excuse for only scoring 3 points against us, and those on an unlikely 55-yeard FG. Rolo should also try to come up with some explanations on his own team giving up an average of 57 points in their first two games..He might also want to start working on his resume.

/s (sort of)

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jmblue

September 7th, 2016 at 4:53 PM ^

Although it benefitted us, I don't like the 10-second runoff on penalties.  I don't think the clock should be affected by a penalty.  It's a bit anticlimactic for the referee to announce that oh by the way, the half's over.

The lost yardage and/or down from the penalty is enough.  

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J.

September 7th, 2016 at 5:19 PM ^

Except that it isn't.  The 10-second runoff is specifically in place to prevent teams from using clock tactics that are considered unfair.

In this particular case, they're treating the penalty as though a sack had occurred.  If the QB were sacked 10+ yards behind the line of scrimmage with five seconds on the clock, the chances that they'd successfully get off another snap are slim.  Stopping the clock in this manner -- by throwing the ball away -- gave an advantage to Hawaii, and the rule is in place to mitigate that.  (In general, it is never supposed to be advantageous for a team to commit a penalty).

BTW -- this rule actually traces its roots to Michigan: on the second-to-last play of the Anthony Carter vs. Indiana game, a Michigan player intentionally lateralled the ball out of bounds to stop the clock and set up the final play.  IIRC, that was outlawed the following year.

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RoseInBlue

September 7th, 2016 at 7:36 PM ^

Thank you for knowing stuff.  I feel like a lot of people don't understand why the 10 second runoff matters.  Penalties stop the clock.  You don't want some clever OC using that to their advantage as time runs out.

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jmblue

September 7th, 2016 at 10:26 PM ^

I understand the reasoning. But in practice it gets applied in a lot of cases that do not involve an attempt to circumvent the clock rules. If it were up to the referee's discretion, I'd be OK with it. I don't like its automatic enforcement.

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TIMMMAAY

September 7th, 2016 at 5:59 PM ^

I loathe that rule, it makes no sense in the context of Fair and Honest Competition.

I get the intent of the rule, but it's just fucking dumb. Find another way to penalize teams that purposely take penalties at end of half scenarios. This rule directly affects the outcome of football games, and it shouldn't.

It will bite us one day too, lets hope it's not in a crucial moment.

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reshp1

September 7th, 2016 at 5:17 PM ^

Eh, it goes both ways. They got bailed out by a hands to the face penalty and the bad snap and fumble easily could have been recovered by Michigan. Also, there were uncalled holding penalties on damn near every play, including/especially the intentional grounding one to end the half. They probably should have come out with 3, but getting in the endzone was far from a foregone conclusion.

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UMProud

September 7th, 2016 at 6:14 PM ^

Listening to Jabril in that interview video embedded on the link...man oh man does he inspire confidence.  You can hear the experience in his voice and I love the group spirit he & Gary give off.  They want the same things we do which is to donut everyone they face. 

I can't believe how much I love Michigan football.

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