Lloyd Carr approves of Jim Harbaugh
So Harbaugh has that going for him, which is nice.
Carr also thinks that technology has made coaching more difficult and that the P5 will have fewer teams in it going forward.
http://www.mlive.com/sports/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2015/06/former_michigan_football_coach.html
...from Australia. The last thing our family needed was an alcoholic koala.
Whine is like . . . good for you and stuff though.
They pitied you because you were abandoned in that exotic animal strip club.
It was sweaty in there.
Heavens to Murgatroyd!
Sweet Fanny Adams!!!
Remember when we had that competition for first to 1000 points? You've really grown up since then. How's the clap?
I do remember that. That was fun. It's going okay. I have my good days and my bad. Thanks for asking.
"Choose" not "chose."
All day long.
I was a huge supporter of Bo's (I became a Michigan fan because my Buckeye mom insisted that if I wasn't going to root for OSU, I was going to root for Bo because he was one of "Woody's Men"), but watching his teams get clobbered in bowl games killed me as I was growing up. Mo and Lloyd mostly turned around the perception that Michigan couldn't win on New Year's Day. Still, I am beyond privileged to have seen Bo coach his last game in Michigan Stadium as a senior at Michigan.
1997 was both the year of the NC and the year my daughter - who will be a first-year student at Michigan this fall - was born. I remember crying tears of joy over both events; it was among the happiest years of my life.
If the past 7 years have done little else than remind all of us that we should take nothing for granted, it will have been enough. Lloyd was successful for most of his tenure and any school (except perhaps the Buckeyes) would have been damn lucky to have him as its head coach. We did. Even Pete Carroll commented to a Detroit sports reporter before the 2007 Rose Bowl that he couldn't understand the anti-Lloyd vitriol that dogged our coach throughout his career.
But that's just, like, my opinion, man. It's time to move on. We have a great head coach in Jim Harbaugh - whom I am also privileged to have seen his last game as a Wolverine. I'm looking forward, not back.
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Whatever the real story was about the RichRod era he still is clearly one of Michigan football's greatest coaches -- the national championship in the modern era plus 2006 are both amazing accomplishments.
a Caddyshack reference
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Oh thank god, our great national nightmare is over.
HOT TAKE: I'm with the crowd that takes the nuanced view on Lloyd. I don't fault him for not switching to a "modern" offense. I do, however, fault him for fielding defenses that seemingly had no answer for a modern offense. I don't think he tried to screw RR. I don't think he tried to help him much either, though.
Carr will always be someone I associate with a happy time of my life (I was in eighth grade his first year as coach), and 1997-2000 in particular was a great time to be a Michigan fan. And, a little curtness with the media and a few eruptions on officials notwithstanding, Michigan would never be embarrassed by Lloyd Carr. No NCAA violations, no Coke ticket giveaways (that of course is on DB, not Hoke, but the on-field product helped make it happen), no apologizing to rival coaches for the gamesmanship of 20 year-olds. And, in fairness, he occasionally got some bad luck. Having Henson starting the UCLA game in 2000 maybe changes the season, provided of course that A-Train hangs onto the ball later that year in Evanston (and obviously the Purdue game was nuts, too). A Henson-led 2001 team probably starts Jim Tressel off 0-1 in The Game, thumps MSU far beyond Spartan Bob's ability to help, and possibly plays for a National Championship again. Shit happens, that's football, but the guy did seem snakebitten at times. Of course, some of that was also because he didn't like to deviate from the script much, and that's often how you make your own luck.
To me, though, the issue was that he was more a steward of Bo's program than a progenitor of his own. Yeah, they threw the ball under Carr a lot more than they did under Bo and Mo. But it does seem like he stagnated starting about 2001. And I think because that kind of dragged out for a long time, people got crazy expectations over how it was going to be once he was gone. And instead it got a lot worse. People tired of Carr's competitive losses to Tressel were now treated to RR's blowouts and Hoke's lone victory over Fickell and heartbreaking collapses against against Meyer. Having MSU establish itself as a Top 10 program under a spiteful jackass added another dick stomp. It wasn't always fun when he was here, but for the most part it hasn't been much fun since. It's been about a decade-long dark age when you count Lloyd's decline and the rollercoaster ride of his successors, but I think we're finally back on track. I hope.
Great post by Flashoverride. I agree with just about everything stated. Very balanced opinion.
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helping undo the Rich Rodriquez transition remains as baffling as ever.
And other than that, I've always liked him. He had a terrific HOF career at Michigan.
He was hired by Bo after a lunch in downtown Ann Arbor that was primarily remembered that day because Bo nearly got into it with a guy who honked his horn at their car as they were leaving to go back to campus. Later, Gary Moeller asked Lloyd if Bo had told him he was hired, and Lloyd said he wasn't sure. The rest is history.
We all have our foibles. Lloyd was a pretty damn good coach and he won an NC. Nobody else can say that.
Just my opinion, but if I am looking to blame someone for the UM debacle I point the finger at Bill Martin. I always liked LC. Good morals, seemed to be in the profession for the right reasons, intelligent beyond a football-sense, etc. Never wanted RR or approved of his UM product, but I think he is a good guy and I wish him the best. I had huge expectations for Hoke and...well.....I was wrong.
Anyway, I've never understood the LC distaste. He strikes me as the scapegoat for the RR apologists.