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Exactly why he's not coming to Michigan. One and dones go to Kentucky like programs...not Michigan. It's just lip service about academics and Adidas.
If I'm wrong....well, I'll think of something.
April 10th, 2015 at 10:49 PM ^
We just saw it take 3/4 of a season for the current crop of freshman to pick it up. It's not your average HS offense. I don't think a kid can come in and be a star his 1st year. Well, maybe a true 5 that only has to run the floor, set screens, get rebounds, and attack the basket ala McGary.
That's why I don't see Brown coming.
April 11th, 2015 at 11:15 AM ^
It took McGary a long time to get comfortable with the system too. He didn't start dominating until very late into his first year. Some say it was because of his conditioning but it has to be more than that.
April 11th, 2015 at 11:28 AM ^
JB's system isn't for 1st year playersHmmm, what about Trey Burke, Tim Hardaway Jr., Glenn Robinson III and Nik Stauskas? They were pretty good as freshmen.
This is true. The tweet is wrong because it is 5, but the point is Coach Beilein has had more early departures.
John Beilein's had 7 players leave early for the NBA in his 8 years at U-M. Tom Izzo's had 6 in 20 years at MSU. UK just had 7 in 2 minutes.
— Drew Hallett (@DrewCHallett) April 9, 2015
that was awesome!
people will rip izzo for anything.
April 10th, 2015 at 10:46 PM ^
Come on down to Sunnyvale and say that to The Green Bastard, Parts Unknown. chicagowolverine02 frito bandito, smokes lets go.
Burke
Sauce Castillo
THjr.
GRIII
Manny Harris
Darius Morris
April 10th, 2015 at 10:16 PM ^
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April 10th, 2015 at 10:44 PM ^
Jason Richardson
Zach Randolph
Marcus Taylor
Erazem Lorbek
Shannon Brown
Gary Harris
April 10th, 2015 at 10:57 PM ^
April 10th, 2015 at 11:00 PM ^
You're right. It was only five. I thought it was six for some reason. My mistake. Point still stands. https://t.co/euUzwX22hQ
— Drew Hallett (@DrewCHallett) April 9, 2015
April 10th, 2015 at 11:20 PM ^
He was right the first time. See my post above. I'm guessing you guys forgot about Lorbek (who wasn't drafted and ended up in Europe).
April 10th, 2015 at 11:33 PM ^
So he left early for the NBA draft or left early to play in Europe?
The original tweet was talking specifically about leaving early for the NBA.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:48 PM ^
I think he wanted to go to the NBA but didn't get drafted. He went pro, in any event, after only one season.
Doesn't matter if you're drafted or not...one or both of those Harrison twins won't get drafted for UK...both left early.
April 10th, 2015 at 10:41 PM ^
Now I understand what Izzo meant with his spiel about having to change what they are doing to win under the current rules. I am guessing that MSU has decided to hire a bagman.
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Anyone know how this guy might see a glass at 50% capacity?
April 10th, 2015 at 10:57 PM ^
Haha you two are pathetic. Sack up and quit acting like Izzo's prison toys. Have some heart to at least hope for your team to be good in the future. What kind of person just accepts defeat before the game is even scheduled? As if MSU hasn't gotten 5 star before. Pathetic.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:46 PM ^
I'm about 75% certain that Ty Butterfield is a concern troll. I don't know how he's managed that point total when it seems like all of his posts are extremely negative and whining about how MSU is unbeatable.
93Grad might be another one. If he is a Michigan fan, he comes off as an emotional trainwreck, attacking players personally (this year, his favorite target was Chatman).
April 10th, 2015 at 11:50 PM ^
How the hell has Ty Butterfield not be banned from the site.
A summary of his posts.
We are going to keep Hoke and Brandon.
We have no chance at Harbaugh (repeat numerous times a day from end of November through December)
We are going to get blownout -every basketball game preview
Like what is the point of coming to this site when you think every player and every one of our teams are no good. What good does it so coming to a fansite
This guy must have no life to hate everything and still come here.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:44 PM ^
Yeah, it's over. It's not like Beilein has a 6-4 record against Izzo over the last 5 regular seasons despite fielding lower-ranked guys every year.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:56 PM ^
The local media's refusual to do a star ranking breakdown on rosters for basketball from 2011-2014 proves your point. We sweep their 2011 team that was loaded.
You know that same breakdown they do when we play them in football. They point and laugh and say look at all those 4stars and high ranked guys at Michigan and they still lose!
Getting decimated by injuries and losing guys for half a season are the only reason we didn't sweep them again.
April 11th, 2015 at 11:09 AM ^
loss in the btt 2014 but your point stands
bitches.
April 11th, 2015 at 11:50 AM ^
I don't think it's that bad, but I'll admit to believing that Izzo might have been cooked after last years's Elite Eight failure. Doesn't look that way now ... getting to the Final Four this year with that team was pretty impressive.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:58 PM ^
An Elite Eight "failure?" What does our Elite Eight loss mean last year?
April 11th, 2015 at 12:06 AM ^
"Failure" might be a little harsh, but MSU last year was ranked #1 in the polls at one point and they were the trendy pick to win it all when the tournament started.
In our case, I thought we pretty much maximized our potential, given that we played basically the entire season without our best player.
April 10th, 2015 at 10:24 PM ^
Izzo's team was loaded a year ago, but it was John Beilein's team that won the Big 10 by three games. Both squads will be very good next season and for the forseeable future.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:45 PM ^
You are without question the worst poster on this site. Every comment you make is either an attack on Michigan teams or a compliment to OSU and MSU. Your posting history is filled with almost nothing but bringing down UM athletics. You're either a very industrious troll, or the softest little bitch fan on the planet (with Ty Butterfield a close second).
April 10th, 2015 at 11:59 PM ^
Please. There are tons worse.
Because they swept us in a year when our two best players were hurt, we had lost five major contributors from the season before, and they started four top-100 HS players / four upperclassmen? The stars won't always align for them like that. Also, that was the most fraudulent Final Four run we've seen in quite some time.
April 11th, 2015 at 12:06 PM ^
No. A "rental" is something you pay for. I really dislike that term. It would be much better if the kids could actually be "rented", but they can't be. It's just a one-year exploitation tour.
Really thought he was going to Cal, that's what all the recruiting sites had him doing.
But I've also read people expect him to be a 2 year guy.
MSU is going to be good, I still think Maryland will be the team to beat next year.
Actually, given Izzo's history, I bet he has an underwhelming freshman season and is not a candidate to go pro a year from now.
Exactly. While Izzo is undoubtedly a good coach, the fact that they have had only 5 early entries to the draft in his 20 years is amazing. He doesn't develop talent well -- or he doesn't do it very fast, anyway.
He is in many ways an inverse to Beilein. One *could* argue Beilein creates systems to uplift players to stature higher than they would be in isolation. They have not had superior NBA production. So he might get them over their level a bit at the college levl.
While Izzo's guys seem to get better in the NBA - guy like Green for example. Or heck Randolph and Richardson. It cannot be a blanket statement but yeah for the level MSU recruits (which is not Duke Kansas UK but is at the next tier with UCLA Arizona etc) he has kept everyone 4 years (outside of Gary Harris) for a decade.