Who stays and who goes early?
Yes I know much can change by the end of the season, and it’s only opinion at this point, but I’d like to hear thoughts on which underclassmen we may lose after this season. My thoughts:
Patterson- Likely gone. The rumor has been that he is a one and done and has been in some first round mocks. However, I guess maybe it’s just me, but I don’t see first round talent yet. We will see.
Bredeson- Thinking he would stay. Gosh I hope at least.
Gary- gone.
Bush- Likely gone. Probably a first or second round pick.
Hudson- No idea. Not really sure how the NFL views him a prospect. A return by him would be huge.
Long and Hill- Both guys are probably in the same boat. Leaning towards both will go and be top 3 round picks. Would be great if one returned.
September 6th, 2018 at 10:12 PM ^
Everyone stays to defend our B1G title!
September 6th, 2018 at 10:16 PM ^
I hope they all come back for my own selfish reasons but If this season turns for the worst they should all leave. I’m sick of all these players dating back to 2005 saying we’re coming back to win a championship those who stay blah blah... it’s getting old and ridiculous. Lamar woodley Leon hall chad henne mike hart Jake long Brandon graham mike Martin Maurice hurst Chris wormley Karan Higdon chase winovich.... all said the same crap and they all left with nothing. Feel so bad for these kids with such high hopes always getting shot down
September 6th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^
META: Delete this thread
September 6th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^
What a shitty, useless thread after 1 week of football. Fuck.
September 6th, 2018 at 10:45 PM ^
I feel bad for a lot of these players, in particular Gary and the slew of WRs. We need a foundation before we recruit the bells and whistles. Not having a solid oline and not recruiting key positions have fucked us.
September 6th, 2018 at 11:36 PM ^
Wtf. Let them play the fucking season.
September 6th, 2018 at 11:48 PM ^
This is depressing
September 7th, 2018 at 12:13 AM ^
If they don't play better than they did Saturday, they're all coming back. So we got that going for us.
September 7th, 2018 at 12:52 AM ^
That’s where you’re wrong
September 7th, 2018 at 12:43 AM ^
Yugo
they weren't good cars!
September 7th, 2018 at 12:50 AM ^
Ambry Thomas will stay.
September 7th, 2018 at 12:52 AM ^
Gary leaving early after a 9-3 season with another loss to OSU would be so devastating
September 7th, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^
That would mean this team would have only lost 2 more games this season! Unlikely but possible
September 7th, 2018 at 1:00 AM ^
We better have at least 10 wins this season if we have that many guys leaving early.
September 7th, 2018 at 5:29 AM ^
Just Guessing
Defense loses 12: Rashan Gary, Chase Winovich, Bryan Mone, Devin Bush, Khaleke Hudson, Tyree Kinnel, Lavert Hill, Brandon Watson, Lawrence Marshall, Noah Furbush, Casey Hughes, Reuben Jones
Offense loses 7: Shea Patterson, Karan Higdon, Grant Perry, Zach Gentry, Juwann Bushell-Beatty, Grant Newsome, Nolan Ulizio
Special Teams lose 3: Berkley Edwards (not on scholarship), Jared Wangler, Joe Hewlett (not on scholarship)
Not sure about Ben Bredeson and David Long. There also might be some unexpected transfers. Doubt that Reuben Jones and Nolan Ulizio will be offered another scholarship year.
September 7th, 2018 at 6:11 AM ^
After 1 week? I don’t see any early departures! At least they shouldn’t!
September 7th, 2018 at 8:15 AM ^
Need to get a lot of reps for the 2nd strong defense. The 2017 defense didn’t take a step back because we heavily rotated our front in 2016. Losing all 4 D Line starters can only be mitigated if the he second 4 are getting big time quality snaps. LB I think we can be OK as although Bush probably leaves, I think Hudson stays. Seems like we can turn over DBs pretrt well and not lose much.
September 7th, 2018 at 8:28 AM ^
Gary and Bush gone in first round - Gary early and Bush late
Hill and Long depends on 2018 performance - likely Hill gone but Long stays
Hudson doesn't have a clear NFL spot, so likely stays. Certain 5th year players like Gentry stays to develop further.
September 7th, 2018 at 8:52 AM ^
He gone.... and in this case "he" means everyone
September 7th, 2018 at 10:46 AM ^
They should all come back, even Rashan. They don't owe shit to the university, but if UM is going to get back on track, we need the seniors to sacrifice so the gaps in recruiting can be addressed.
Its a lot to ask and of course won't happen, but without getting any lucky breaks in recruiting or on the field the past 3 years, we can only hope for some individual sacrifices to help right the ship.
September 7th, 2018 at 10:47 AM ^
I'd think the NFL isn't the likely pull for Patterson, baseball is. That's potentially a bigger pull depending how the rest of the season goes.
September 7th, 2018 at 10:59 AM ^
I wish you would leave
September 7th, 2018 at 11:07 AM ^
September 7th, 2018 at 11:08 AM ^
Have to get a ton of snaps for our 3nd and 3rd stringers these next few weeks. The 2016 defense was insanely deep and played a ton of guys, that's why the 2017 defense didn't drop off at all.
I think Hudson returns, I think Long is 50-50. I think Gary and Bush leave for sure. Hill is 75-25 gone.
So with graduations, we could only be returning 2-4 starters on defense. Don Brown has shown that he can replace starters and not lose a step, but we really would need the next studs to make their marks this season.
September 7th, 2018 at 11:19 AM ^
I'm more curious about what is in those text messages. What was Urban so worried about? What could be more damaging that what was already released?
September 7th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^
Those who stay....... won't go early.
September 7th, 2018 at 12:20 PM ^
It’s still to early to tell, but at this point they all should stay except Gary and maybe Hill, the rest should stay at this point. But in 3-4 weeks things could change.
September 7th, 2018 at 5:01 PM ^
Maybe Gary could use an extra season of college ball to refine his technique. I see a gifted athlete that, for some reason, seems to be apathetic at times. Chase is a better DE than gary in just about every way.
September 7th, 2018 at 12:20 PM ^
It’s still to early to tell, but at this point they all should stay except Gary and maybe Hill, the rest should stay at this point. But in 3-4 weeks things could change.
September 7th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^
Harbaugh has been gone since the bad spot.