Hoops Hello: Kameron Chatman, Informatively Updated Comment Count

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Michigan just landed OR SF Kameron Chatman according to various folks but most importantly Kameron Chatman. At 6'7", Chatman is either a 3 or 4 at Michigan and is a consensus top 50 player. He joins FL C Ricky Doyle in a 2014 class that will likely grow to four.

GURU RATINGS

Scout Rivals ESPN 24/7 Sports
4*, #23 overall
#8 SF
4*, #29 overall 4*, #49 overall
#12 SF
4*, #36 overall
#9 SF

Chatman's ratings are in a tight, elite range with ESPN, the relative skeptic, still declaring him a top-50 player. Scout's the most optimistic, placing him one spot from a five star rating. Everyone rates him as a small forward, but at 6'7" with ostentatiously long arms, Chatman could easily play the 4 in Beilein's system if he fills out—he's currently 25 pounds short of Glenn Robinson III's 220.

Robinson's actually a good comparison in terms of profile, as Chatman shot up recruiting boards after an impressive AAU season as a rising junior. For example, he debuted in Scout's top 100 at #42 last July, and since then he's continued to rise incrementally. His rankings are only a few slots short of where Robinson's finished.

A growth spurt from 6'3" to his current 6'7" has a lot to do with that. That necessarily leaves him a skinny guy still adjusting from his previous guard role to more of a wing/post role. This creates an UPSIDE (but raw) theme in a lot of his evaluations. Rivals's generic profile eval is a good example:

Big wing is still developing and growing into his body. One of the top rebounding wings in the class of 2014 and a very alert playmaker off the dribble. A good mid range jump shooter who is extending his range. His toughness allows him to play as a skilled four in a small lineup.

ESPN's Dave Telep was gaga about the guy, but strictly as a developmental prospect:

5. Kameron Chatman, SF: I'm feeling out on a limb here with Chatman. When I watch him, I see a guy in need of a cheeseburger and a weight room but with the potential to be a pro someday. Others receive more attention, but to me, there's something about his overall skill set and lack of physical development that makes me his potential exciting. I'd have no problem taking a flier on him and labeling him as one of the best 25 prospects in the class.

Telep would later name him the guy most likely to track down his peers late in the recruiting process, citing his "monster ceiling"; ESPN's evaluation praises his "terrific frame with very long arms and overall great length."

What Chatman promises is a tantalizing combination of point forward skills…

What you have to love about the 6-foot-6 (and growing) Chatman is his versatility. At times, he brings the ball up the floor and initiates the offense, others he plays on the wing, and then he plays in the high post and the offense is run through him there.

as skilled as any player in the West, capable of playing any position from 1-4. …could end up closer to 6-foot-8 or taller by the time he hits a college court. His ball handling skills are fantastic for a player his size and he's a quality passer with point guard instincts.

a slick passer with excellent court vision who understands how to predict defensive movements. Both on the interior and at range, he alertly hits cutters and spots open teammates on the block.

very young-looking, and still pretty slender, but he’s one of the elite prospects in the west for 2014. He’s got a nice lefty stroke that’s good to about the stripe, a point guard’s feel for the game and excellent ball skills.

…Beilein-thrilling basketball IQ…

superbly skilled 6-foot-6 wing/forward is beginning to grow into his maturing body. His length, high basketball IQ and point guard mentality make him one of the more unique prospects in the west for 2014.

This kid just knows how to play the game. …basketball IQ is one of the best in his class out west. The versatile forward usually positions himself perfectly on the glass, which helps him corral rebounds on both ends and when he has the ball, he doesn’t take long to use his high level vision to make the right pass to a teammate.

…and excellent rebounding for a wing-ish guy.

He is also a way-above-average rebounder for a wing.

His rebounding stands out. Chatman is a conscientious boards-man on both ends, and he's especially dangerous on the offensive glass.

benefits handsomely from outstanding height and length. He's not only long, he plays big because he doesn't mind contact and has a knack for using his knees, hips and elbows to clear space. 

There are some downsides. His jumper is evaluated inconsistently—some guys say it's good, some say not so much. It can be a is a rainbow thing

he did connect on a couple of high arching mid-range jumpers Chatman struggled for the most part this weekend.

His jump shot can be hit or miss, but the southpaw wields a very high-arching shot that's difficult to block.

His mid-range jumper was falling and his three-point shot arches so high it looks like it might hit the rafters. When he's connecting from the outside it really opens up the rest of his game.

…that may indicate he's never going to be a Stauskas gunner. There is a trajectory that is the trajectory basketball has agreed upon is the right one, and if you deviate from that significantly you're either a savant or not a high-end shooter. A number of the evals do say he's got a good mid-range jumper and can extend out to the three point line. I'd guess he's going to be like GRIII in that department, at least to start: he'll take open threes and connect at a mediocre rate.

The other downsides are the usual with a kid who hit the late growth spurt that leaves him a jumbo guy with mad skills: he's skinny, and can be awkward at times. Scout sums him up:

Chatman may open his career as a highly regarded utility player, rather than someone who's ready to step in and become a first or second scoring option. He's still seeking a polished offensive identity, but while he's cultivating his scoring attack he'll nevertheless contribute in myriad other aspects.

OFFERS

Chatman's main suitors were Michigan, Arizona, Oregon, USC, and Connecticut. He also had offers from Memphis, UCLA, Washington, and a couple others.

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There's very little out there, as Chatman missed his junior year after a transfer to California.

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

Chatman's a boom-or-bust type in the mold of a… uh. Sam Dekker? That's the best I've got in the current Big Ten. Dekker was a beanpole 6'7" recruit with excellent ballhandling skills for his size; Chatman is similar. Chatman is more of a rebounder, less of a shooter (Dekker was 39% from three in year one) and probably will have a similar impact as a freshman.

The ESPN guys compared him to Tayshawn Prince, which is another possibility if he extends his shooting range to three and grows another couple inches. Also, remember when you were sad that Keita Bates-Diop shocked people by picking Ohio State? Well, they cloned that dude and called him Kameron Chatman.

When Chatman enters next year Michigan will be down Jordan Morgan, Mitch McGary, and Glenn Robinson III. That'll probably pull Andrew Donnall towards the five, leaving most of the minutes at the four for Chatman, Zak Irvin, and whoever the second combo forward is in this class.

UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS

Chatman's commitment gives Michigan flexibility for the final two guys, as he could be considered a three or four for Beilein depending on whether they get more of a wing type or a post type with guy #4; #3 is going to be a shooting guard.

That leaves Donte Grantham, DJ Wilson, and Jonah Bolden in play. Grantham is deciding this week between Michigan and Clemson, and Wilson is a presumed lock if Grantham doesn't grab the last spot. Assuming one of the first two drops, Michigan will have to execute some contortions if it's going to add Bolden in the late signing period; he'll have to establish himself as just too good not to take in his year at Findlay Prep if Michigan is going to add him as a fifth guy in 2014.

Chatman had struck up a relationship with MS SG Devin Booker, FWIW, and that may help alleviate the Tyler Ulis pull at Kentucky. Michigan's pretty much stuck waiting for Booker or James Blackmon Jr to pick Kentucky and hoping to swoop in on the one still out there.

Comments

Michigan4Life

October 2nd, 2013 at 10:53 AM ^

both are two completely different player. GRIII is more of a above the rim player with the ability to shoot 3s while Chatman is more of a faciliator, can handle the rock and have the ability to shoot 3s.  GRIII is more of a SF while Chatman is more of a PG/SG/SF.

Tayshaun Prince is a good comparison for Chatman in terms of style but Tayshuan doesn't quite have the vision as Chatman have.

alum96

October 2nd, 2013 at 12:03 PM ^

"Tayshaun Prince is a good comparison for Chatman in terms of style but Tayshuan doesn't quite have the vision as Chatman have."

So a HS player who you probably have seen 30 minutes or less of youtube clips on has more court vision than a 10+ year nBA Player?  Umm yeah.

If anything, Chatman reminds me of a Caris in body, and potentially in game but with a bit more upside.  If he is even a poor man's Prince we should be thankful.

Michigan4Life

October 2nd, 2013 at 12:29 PM ^

Just basing it on what I've heard from Chatman from the West Coast.  They know their basketball and said Tayshuan Prince with better court vision is a good comparison.

Don't need to get your panties in a bunch over the comparison especially when you compared him to Caris LeVert after criticizing me for making the Tayshaun Prince comparison.

Michigan4Life

October 2nd, 2013 at 4:48 PM ^

not talent level which I clearly stated in my post.

A player can be similar to LeBron James in terms of playing style, not talent level. This is something that people (like you) tends to overreact when they hear player's comparison.

Kameron Chatman is similar to Tayshaun Prince with better court vision.  That is it, not talking about talent level, but merely in style.

Zok

October 2nd, 2013 at 10:59 AM ^

unless we are in a jam with serious foul trouble. At least I hope not. Not in the Big Ten.

UM needs a four that can bang, get rebounds, and pick & pop from the outside. Rebounding in HS is a whole other level to rebounding in the Big Ten. GRIII struggled at the 4 in half court sets all year. This kid is even skinner. Granted he will fill out some but bball players (esp perimerter guys) don't bulk up like football players. He looks like Levert frosh year in terms of being WAY too skinny.

He should step in at the 3 nicely with GRIII going pro. He will also get to bring the ball up the court some and initiate the offense. Good insurance as far as PG duties going forward.1/2/3 kids all the way. No skinny 4's please.

 

orangeda

October 2nd, 2013 at 2:16 PM ^

Chatman is already around 195lbs, and also around 6'6 - 6'7, that's a pretty big difference for a starting point, and although Chatman does look skinny, most reports say that he does not have a problem playing physical, either on offense in getting in the lane and drawing contact, or defensively and on the boards.  Kid's got scary potential once they get him in a college strength program.

The fact that they should be bringing in(at least) one of Grantham/Wilson/Bolden tells me that Chatman will more than likely be starting out at the 3, at least defensively, although as a natural lefty I'd bet he lines up at the 4 for offensive purposes, but I would not be suprised at all to see him log some minutes as a 4 in a smaller lineup, he's got great length and apparently knows how to use it to play bigger than he is.

El Jeffe

October 2nd, 2013 at 11:33 AM ^

Obligatory 2015 depth chart musings:

  1. Walton* / Blackmon Jr. (amirite) / SPIKE!!!
  2. Stauskas* / Booker (amirite) / LeVert
  3. Irvin* / LeVert / Chatman
  4. Donnal / Grantham (amirite) / ?
  5. Doyle / Zimmerman (amirite) / ?

* NBA flight risks by then, I realize.

EQ RC Blue

October 2nd, 2013 at 11:43 AM ^

Blackmon and Booker both have Kentucky offers.  If Kentucky was really the first choice for both, one would jump on it.  There may be some interplay between Blackmon, Booker, and Oubre, but my guess is it's much less simple than how Brian depicts it.  After McGary, Irvin, Chatman, etc., the evidence shows that UM has a good shot at the prospects they're in on seriously no matter who else is there too. 

Shop Smart Sho…

October 2nd, 2013 at 11:37 PM ^

No apology is necessary to the people called out for mentioning that one person looks young when the same person doing the calling out then includes, and bolds, a quote saying another recruit looks young?  

 

If you really feel that way, I've got a couple of hairs that need splitting.  You busy?

UMaD

October 2nd, 2013 at 12:00 PM ^

PG:  Walton / Albreht

Wing 1:  Stauskas / Freshman (Booker or Blackmon or Bess)

Wing 2:  Irvin / LeVert / Chatman

Forward: Donnal / Freshman (Grantham or Wilson) / Bielfeldt

Big:  Horford / Doyle

The position stuff is fluid and will sort itself out eventually.  They may monnlight there occassionaly, but I don’t think Donnal should be viewed as a 5 or Chatman/Irvin as a 4.

Donnel will only be viable at 5 in limited situations, unless he’s beside a more physical presence (e.g., Bielfeldt). 

Similar situation for Chatman.  Too skinny to be a 4 right away, he’ll start as a backup on the Wing (unless Grantham ends up at Clemson, in which case they may need another body up front).

IMO Irvin is going to be too valuable doing other things to play the 4-spot for Michigan.

InterM

October 2nd, 2013 at 2:10 PM ^

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Think how much time and effort this will save you as you make your usual "contributions" to the discussion . . . .

93Grad

October 2nd, 2013 at 1:44 PM ^

He seems like a prototypical Beilein recruit.  Late bloomer with tons of upside ala Morris, Trey, THK, GRIII, Stauskus and Irvin. 

Picking him up was huge for the hoops recuriting momentum.  Personally, Blackmon is my top choice for the remaining recruits becuase he is a lights out shooter and with Chatman on the wing, we can sacrifice a little on size. 

Grantham and Wilson don't excite me nearly as much, and I wouldn't mind thme just saving the scholarship for 2015, but JB obviously has earned the "trust the coaches" benefit of the doubt.

AtkinsDiet

October 3rd, 2013 at 12:22 AM ^

Brian is always wanting to go smaller than Beilein wants to go. Why, I don't know. Zak Irvin is NOT PLAYING THE FOUR. Ever. He's a good shooter, great peremiter defender and is a poor rebounder.

Assuming McGary can introduce 3s to his game like Payne did last year, you will take the two-big lineups this season and you will like it.

 

Low Key Recidivist

October 3rd, 2013 at 10:15 AM ^

This is the kid I wanted to see in this class.  He brings some skills (ball handling, passing, rebounding) that are very complimentary to what the other wings/3's on the roster provide.  He's a player who can contribute meaningfully early without getting a high amount of usage/touches.

Even without McGary and GRIII next year, should have a very balanced and talented roster.