[Boston Terrible Things Open Thread]
Shots have been fired and at least 1 officer has died. There are 2 suspects. One is caught, the other is still at large, but police are expanding the perimeter.
The police and MSP are treating these suspects as the Boston marathon suspects. They are armed with grenades, home-made bombs, and assault weapons.
Police scanner if you wish: http://t.co/I1stA1IjKG
This guy is live-tweeting it: https://twitter.com/alertnewengland
What the hell is up with humanity. Godspeed all involved and prayers/thoughts with the officer who was killed.
Mod edit: Changed the title to make this the open thread for Boston topics today. New threads are highly discouraged and will almost certainly be removed; this forum topic is fine for discussion today. JGB.
Can someone knowledgeable on the subject elaborate a bit on Chechen-American relations? I would have thought there'd be some enemy of my enemy sentiment on the part of Chechnya, but so much for that.
I'm getting the impression there were a bunch of Chechen "sleeper cells" dispersed around the West over the past year. Three were arrested in France in March and other in August 2012 in Spain. LINK.
The republic has had troubled past 150 years.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/country_profiles/2565049.stm#facts
We're not exactly enemies of Russia. We've more or less given them a free hand when it comes to dealing with Chechnya.
In any event, it sounds like these two were more jihadists in general and not just Chechen nationalists.
From what I just read, police officials are now searching for a green Honda Civic. It is a possibility that the suspect has gotten past the police ring.
EDIT: The search for the Civic is cancelled. It is still believed they have the area surrounded where he is believed to be.
Sooo, sounds like he got away? Yikes.
Police in Massachusetts and Connecticut are hunting for a green Honda...The car was described as a green Honda Civic with Massachusetts plate number 116 GC7. It was not known who owned the car, but the police bulletin could mean authorities fear remaining suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, whose brother and fellow bombing suspect was killed early Friday, could have slipped out of the tight perimeter formed by police and FBI agents in the Watertown section of Boston.
For you guys in the area, stay safe.
The Civic was found earlier. The new car to look out for is:
95 Honda Odyssey - Gray - 93NN73
EDIT: That has been found and secured.
Hondas are the preferred getaway car of criminals everywhere.
I should also point out that it sounds like there are several suspects at this point. One was killed earlier, another was taken into custody about an hour ago, there's the one that they are looking for, and there's another that was just reported wearing tactical gear. This is likely a sleeper cell and "suspect" does not necessarily mean the guy they have been chasing, but anyone associated with them as well. That means these car searches might be cars registered to people they believe to be members of the cell.
EDIT: The fourth guy that I mentioned ended up being an FBI agent.
Sleeper cell? I think you've been reading too many Brad Thor novels. Most likely these are people who know the suspects, but are not involved in their plot.
Eh. "Sleeper cell" is what other people have been calling it so that's what I used too. Whatever it is, I don't think it was just the two of them, which is why I think they are looking for cars.
It sounds like they just found another device with multiple circuit boards.
Where did you hear that?
Police scanner.
Can you give me the link?
Is there anything significant about it having multiple circuit boards?
It was actually a car, not a device. So, the significance seems to be that it could have belonged to or been in use by the suspects.
I'm a physician living in Boston and was part of the first response team on Monday. There were limbs everywhere, we literally couldn't put in enough IV's and there was nothing put smoke and haze everywhere. It was twenty minutes but it seemed like two hours and when the police cleared us because another bomb was found, was the only time I could truly process. It was horrific. I haven't slept well the last few nights and frankly I'm not sure why something like this would even happen. I keep thinking of the eight year old boy who only wanted to be there for his dad as he crossed the finish line.
Today the hospital was on lockdown as gunshots were being fired outside, and helicopters were flying around. We could see them from the cafeteria while eating breakfast. A variety of my fellow attendings and a few residents decided just to stay at home rather than take the risk. This entire time has been surreal and I'm not sure when it's going to end.
According to the reddit police scanner thread:
Two suspects are in custordy now, with a third surrounded, but none of them are the white hat guy.
You think that stuff is just the province of video games...
The police just riddled the boat with hundreds of rounds...live on MSNBC...that kid is a goner.
edit...now they are saying the tape was earlier and now the perp is "sitting up"... he should just surrender or put a bullet in his own head, unless he is strapped with a bomb.
Supposedly they have someone surrounded who is sitting in a boat right now
Edit: Now there's fire in the boat? Certainly seem incriminating enoughPHOTO: WCVB is reporting that this is the boat where the suspect was hiding behind this Watertown, MA, home twitter.com/NewsBreaker/st…
— NewsBreaker(@NewsBreaker) April 19, 2013
so that's nice that we might get him alive. Problem would be that he probably has a suicide vest at the moment
The police scanner I'm listening to just had the following dialogue
"Also we've got a problem. Your feed is being broadcast on the internet"
"Ahh..okay"
has nothing to do with a conspiracy theory as long as they are going door to door until they discover who they are going to shoot.
Suspect is in custody per the scanner...now calling for a medic.
I did not expect that at all. Hopefully he survives, I'm betting that guy has some bad injuries
Glad that it is over. I hope they can get information from the kid on where his training came from and who else may have been involved.
Going to have a drink in respect to the memory of Sean Collier.