College makes you slower- comparing HS vs NFL Combine 40 times
This article is great and adds more validation to how many "Fakes out of Five" that are associated to a HS 40 time. In all fairness, some of these guys were likely significantly bulked up based on needs of their position or simply filling out their frames with required mass to be a college player. However, the skill position players don't have that same excuse.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/3/1/4038740/2013-nfl-comb…
I want laser hands
Manos: Hands of Fate
That would have been interesting to see live.
Looking at the combine, laser timing seems to add from .05 to .15 second to 40 times on average, compared to hand timing. Certianly nothing like the half-second differential some of these guys showed.
Depends on whose hand is doing the timing.
This should be required reading for everyone who reads this blog. I grew tired of all the people claiming that Derrick Green ran in the 4.3s because some recruiting website said so.
what if we don't know how to read? Will you read it to us, like you used to do?
I will read it to you, but only to you.
Derrick Green would be lucky to run a 4.5
If Derrick Green runs a legit 4.5 at 220 lbs, I would be ecstatic. That would give him a Speed Score (a metric developed by Football Outsiders) of 107.3, which compares favorably to some of the top NFL RB prospects.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8983630/2013-nfl-combine-metr…
Basically, Speed Score is a measure of how fast a RB is for his size (Brandon Jacobs running a 4.5 is more impressive than Jacquizz Rodgers running a 4.5) and has been a pretty good predictor of future RB success. 100 is average, and higher scores are better (the record is 125).
Lucky to run a 4.5? Now, I understand he certainly doesn't run a 4.3 at 220 pounds. But to say he'd be lucky to get a 4.5? It's certainly not unthinkable. Le'Veon Bell just clocked a 4.6 OFFICIAL time at the combine at 225 pounds. So I don't think it's unheard of that Derrick Green could run a 4.5. You know there is a reason he is one of only a few guys to be named the #1 running back by both of the big recruiting services.
I did some digging and even though I thought Green was invited to The Opening, his name does not appear in any of the databases from this past year's Nike Combine results.
I did find an interview from his junior year, however, where he ran an electronic 4.58 40. How much that changed his senior year, who knows.
http://espn.go.com/high-school/football/video/clip?id=6598882
Oh great, now Magnus is now claiming he's smarter than all the recruiting websites... getting a big head again.
Mr. Rager: Do you have any comments?
~Herm
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Herm, you're developing your game with the /s. Mucho gusto.
Ugh. Too many of these threads turn into the I Hate Magnus vs. Magnus Gives Free Info Shut the Hell Up If You Don't Like It variety.
How 'bout them Lions, eh?
Is the Magnus " Takes all of his clothes off thread and runs throughout the neighborhood" thread. That one will be good
I'll hold out for the "Magnus caught jackin' it in San Diego" posbang thread.
If you're going to get caught jacking it, I can't think of a better place. Best Mexican food in the US. A burrito in one hand, your burrito in the other and a cool ocean breeze. Probably worth getting caught.
This almost made me snort my afternoon coffee. I'm glad I didn't because then I probably would have started crying and that would have sucked. Thanks for the nearly painful laugh!
For some reason that story never turned into a thread.
But it did get my disheveled photograph on the local news.
The song from that scene still gets stuck in my head all the time. It seems like weekly.
You bring it on yourself by being knowledgeable, having an opinion, making sense, and being correct a lot.
The nerve.
I can't tell if the first sentence is 100% sincere. If so, wow. What is it like gagging on the internet dick of a stranger?
Look who's trolling again...
I didn't get to pick you in the MGoGettingBanned pool.
No way, I have dibs. I'll probably feel the best when he gets banned. Well, me or Magnus.
Somebody else will probably pick up the slack when Mr. Rager gets banned.
Yeah, I was being 100% sincere. Some of us appreciate Magnus' evaluations on recruits and aren't swayed by your endless ad hominem attacks against him and those who like his posts. Grow up.
Magnus ran a 4.5 in high school but has since bulked up and now runs a 6.1.
You should join Magnus Anonymous and learn how to get over me.
I love you
Your type of love is suffocating.
One of the more interesting stats I think I have seen. If those numbers are correct, a cocked eyebrow should generally be the first reaction to a reported speed that is below 4.5.
Good stat for fans RT @KippLAdams Out of 16639 recruits at 2012 Nike SPARQ Combines, only 19 ran a electronically-timed sub 4.50 forty TomVH
with laser beams....
Denard got faster! 4.43 vs 4.48.
Back in high school I could throw a football a quarter mile. If coach would have put me in we would have won state, no doubt in my mind.
Other than track athletes who work on those specific traits, I would expect most kids to be a little slower - particularly those that are packing on a lot of weight/muscle that doesn't contribute to speed.
..not that I dispute that 40 times are fake at the HS level, but that SPARQ data is more convincing than NFL combine data 4 years later.
I've heard from various random websites with no verifiable expertise that the physical peak for a male is somewhere around 25.
All I know is that I felt bullet proof until I hit my late thirties. Everything changed after that...and not for the better.