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Read Option/QB gut

Borges already has this in the arsenal and most of Denards big runs against ohio were from this play. Qb keys the line backer flow on the mesh with the tailback. Qb shuffle steps during the mesh while reading lbs flow. If they commit to the outside run qb pulls up the gut. If lbs stay the qb gives to the tb who has a pulling guard for a lead blocker. This is a common play used by dual threat qb teams but very effective against even experienced lbs as long as the qb makes the right read.

Its not a difficult concept

Your "Power" blocking scheme is just a typical man on man blocking scheme where each player on the offensive line is designated to a manon the defense to block. Obviously, this can involve pulling guards and tackles but doesn't have to. 

 

Your Zone blocking scheme is when the OL has a specific zone/area to block. They will take a Zone step, which is usually coached as a backwards step and then move in the direction of the designed run, the first person to cross your face is who you block. A lot of the times this is when you run an option read because in a zone blocking scheme the backside end or outside backer is usually left unblocked because the play is running away from here and therefore giving you an extra blocker to get to the next level. 

I would also like to know

This is my first Spring game I will be attending and I'm just curious to how everything works. What's the daily schedule look like? I know they are having the locker room tours followed by the alumni flag football game and then the spring game but is there anything following the game itself?

Beat me to it

I second Ol 98. He is the only Michigan player to ever recieve a standing ovation from Buckeye fans in Columbus. Although he did play almost every position he was considered a running back.

I am

Yes, I married a buckeye. I was born and raised in Ohio as a Michigan fan.... you really didn't have much of a choice. She went to osu for 2 years, come from an all buckeye family, and her and her sister actually hold the Guiness World Record for the longest buckeye necklace made, unfortunately. On top of our wedding cake was Wolverine and a buckeye helmet.

However, I'm happy to admit that she has convert to Michigan. After several fights she has finally realized the game is more important to me than herself. Last year we attended 4 Wolverine games and she tells people we are now a Michigan family.

So, if you can convert them, by all means.... one less buckeye in the world makes it a better place.

New Plan

Sometime before football season we need to sacrafice something to this God to satisfy him for the year.

double post

sorry for the double post

Agree w/ David from Wyoming

Reply to David from Wyoming: I agree with you, I'm just frustrated. Winning cures everything so hopefully next year at this point everyone is happy because we just won a bowl game and beat OSU.

Never bashed

I never bashed a recruit or the coaching staff. At this point I'm willing to concede defeat because I'm obviously fighting an uphill battle in defending my opinion. From now on, before I post my own personal opinion, I will see if it agrees with the consesus of the board, and if not I won't post it.... obviously that's how this works.

I'm far from a

bandwagon. You don't know me and I think its wrong to make those assumtions. I lived in Ohio my entire life, I've been spit on, had beer bottles thrown at me, forced to sit in hallways for a week instead of a classroom during Michigan vs. Osu week, and once I was even refused the right to be served food because I was a Michigan fan. I have been loyal to this team all through life and regardless of how they play I will always be true blue. I understand your opinon and your stance on the matter but I really don't appreciate you accusing me of a bandwagon, if you knew me you know that's the furthest thing from the truth. Again, I understand everyone is frustrated and if we were winning you and I wouldn't be having this debate. All I ask is you respect my opinion and other similar opinions because I respect yours and I understand where you're coming from. Were both fans, loyal fans, so lets agree on that.

I never

said that we shouldn't accept any talent below a 4-star but the lack of top end talent worries me a little, I'm not going to lie.

I'm not saying

I know more than the coach. As a fan, I have the right to be disappointed in how our recruitment has been going and how the team has been playing. Forgive me and the rest of us if we are a little frustrated.

Why

Why shouldn't we compare ourselves with Texas and Florida? We're talking about the University of Michigan. We pack 110,000+ fans into our stadium to watch our teams play, we have the most wins in college football history. I'm sorry but if you want to be the best you need to compare yourself against the best, in my opinion. Three years ago we beat Florida, why shouldn't we compare ourselves to them? Again, we're Michigan, a historical football powerhouse not some school that hasn't experienced success.

I get it

I don't think anyone is arguing that there are several players through out history who were 3-star athletes that ended up being great players. However, is that the exception or the rule? The Exception.

Espn recruiting class rankings:

2006- Fla, USC, Texas
2007-USC, Fla, Texas
2008-Miami, Clesmon, Ala, Fla
2009-LSU, Ala, Texas, Usc

Again, I don't think it's coinsidence that you see these schools competing for a National Championship each year, they have the best talent. Sure, you can argue Miami and Clem
son weren't but they would have beat the Wolverines last year.

I'm not basing my opinion on video games, I haven't played NCAA since college. I have experience in recruiting and I'm sorry that my opinion is different from you but you can't argue that a 5 star athelete is more likely to be succesful than a 3 star athlete, again theres always exceptions but not always.

Backusdou

I'm sorry but I have to kind of lean toward his argument. This is the University of Michigan not Ohio University. Michigan has a deep and rich history and holds the all time win record they should be only accepting the best. What ever happened to the pyschology tactic or scarcity? You know, the lack of a product which makes people want it even more? You figure Michigan would be saying to all the recruits "I'm sorry but we only have 14 spots and were only taking the 14 best players because we're The University of Michigan." These young highschool players will want to be considered one of the best 14 that Michigan are recruiting and it will make them want it more. The fact that Michigan didn't get any unanimious 5 star athletes last year is just disappointing. I don't think it's coincidence that Florida and Texas are some of the best teams in the nation each year, sure they have great coaches, but they also have some of the best recruiting classes year in and year out with top end talent. You can argue all you want stars don't matter, and sure in some cases like Mike Hart it doesn't, but if you look at some of the big name schools and their recruiting classes, yes stars matter.

I understand that the coaches know what they're doing and I have faith in them but I'm just a little disappointed that we haven't been seeing some more top end talent. Sure, some of these players may be under the radar but out of the several under the radar players we've been taking.... how many of those are actually going to pan out? Yes the coaching staff are experienced recruiters but the national recruiting websites are experienced as well, it's their profesion. So, I have to agree with Backusdou and the rest of the people who aren't thrilled to see this commitment. Hopefully I'm eating my words in a few years.

I know where both sides are coming from

I can understand where everyone on this board is coming from and I can't decide which side I'm on yet

Side A: The coaches are the Pros at recruiting and obviously they know what's best for the future of Michigan football. They spend countless hours trying to find the best talent in the nation to come and play for the Wolverines. If they offered this kid and accepted his commitment, well obviously he must be good. From looking at the film he has great hands and is pretty good with the jump ball. He's still young and may have his coming out party during his Sr. year and we will see everyone offer him.

Side B: The University of Michigan is one of the most historic college football programs of all time. We should only be accepting commitments from the best recruits in the nation. We have a very limited number of spots this year and they should be reserved for the very best athletes in the nation. The coaches can't afford to be filling up valuable spaces so early in the game. Michigan shouldn't have a ton of 3 star talent and a few 4 star men.

Again, I'm torn between the two camps. I guess I just have to have faith in coach Rod.

The more time goes on

The longer he goes without committing to us the more skeptical I am that he will actually sign with us. He was suppose to be a verbal last summer, then in the fall, and then in December. I just doubt more and more he will come to Michigan each day and I think a large part that feeling has to do with my hopes being built up 8-10 months ago and nothing coming of it. I hope he goes go blue but I must admit that I'm a little worried after the past couple months of built up expectations.

I'm sorry

But I don't really want Arnett and I don't care if he does go to State. I spent some time recruiting for a small division III college and spent a lot of time watching film and looking at prospects. Now, by no means am I a professional but in my own personal opinion I don't like what I see when watching Arnett's tapes. I don't personally see him ever being a big time player in the college ranks, just average. He's very undersized and needs to put on a lot of weight, I wasn't empressed with his YAC, he seems to go down when he's touched. I was really turned off when I saw how often he ran out of bounds instead of battling for the extra yards. He does have good hands and speed but his route running was average and needs a lot of work. Again, I'm not a professional and I'm sure Division I recruiters know more and see more than I do but that's just my personal opinion.

With that being said, he will never be Charles Rogers and I'm personally happy that he won't be taking up a spot next year on our limited scholarship. Again, many of you have different opinions and I respect that, this is just my own opinion. Feel free to come back in 3-5 years and neg bang me to death if I'm wrong.

Miller

Well it looks like it's time for Ricardo to give him a call and work his magic.

But seriously some of the biggest things big time highschool recruits look at is early playing time and being developed to compete at the next level. In my personal opinion, he has a way better chance of starting at Michigan his Fr. year than any other school he is looking at.

Poll

I think this post calls for another mgoblog poll.

Can't find them

I can't find them on finishline.com, whats the name of the shoe?

*Sigh*

Those were the days, where winning seem to come easy and bowl games were nothing but formality.....Times sure have changed.

Love the poll

and I agree it should be stickied.

Long shot

Sure it may seem like a long shot but as we learn each year, it's not over til the fat lady sings. Coach Rod has shown he can win big name recruits over so I'm still optomistic until signing day. I'm not certain what msu's depth chart looks like but we can offer him a lot of playing time and chance for a starting job and that's always a plus.

Obi

Although I agree with you, I haven't given up on Obi yet. He had a really great year two years ago and, I may be mistaken, he was leading the team in tackles last year before he got sat down. He is one of the leaders on the defense and I think he will have a big year.

Dorsey

I feel like Dorsey has to gain some weight and learn to wrap on his tackles before I would be comfortable with him playing SS. I would much rather have him at free with all of his speed and ball hawking abilities.

And yes

And yes he did smoke me in every event...

Ginn

I remember running track my senior year against Ginn Jr. By this point who had already committed to OSU and we got to talking about football and how I was a Michigan fan. He was actually a really nice guy, I don't think you can say as much about his dad. Anyways, I really had no interest on recruiting at the point but he had told me it was a really tough decision between OSU and Michigan and that he was actually on the Michigan sidelines for the big game that year. He claimed the only reason he choose to go to OSU was because he had family close to Columbus and he would be closer to his mom, take it for what it's worth. To this day I still wonder how many more kids we would be getting from Glenville if Ginn Jr. would have came to Michigan instead.

All I'm saying

is that they barely lost to WVU, Pitt, Cinci, and UNC. All four of those teams, I believe, Michigan would have really struggled with last year, especially Pitt and Cinci. I'm just as die hard a fan as all of you but I'm just being realistic.

I also have to agree that the team themselves aren't overlooking them but I have to disagree and say that a lot of the fans are looking at the schedule and saying "UCONN, easy win" and moving on. A majority of you posting on here aren't saying that but on other post on here in the past few months a lot of people have been passing this game of as an for sure win. There were two post this morning that implied just that.

And no I don't have a gambling problem and no I'm not concerned with Michigan covering the spread. All I wanted to point out was that UConn was 6-0 ATS on away games and obviously they play their best ball on the road.

All I wanted to get out there was that this team shouldn't be over looked and it will be a huge win for Michigan to start the season like that. This is a tough opening game, it's going to be a great one to watch, this is why I had my wife's sister have her wedding the weekend before when she suggested the weekend of the 4th. I think this is one of the tougher games we will play all year behind OSU and Wisconsin, just my opinion.

No idea

That kid was sick. How old is he now? Does anyone know?

Dorsey and Christian

I think they both end up starting. They are way too talented compare to what we have to work with right now. I think Turner's going to start at a corner spot and Woolfork at a Safety spot. Personally, I think Cullen will find his way on the other side of Turner and Dorsey will find himself at the other safety position. I know Rich said Dorsey was going to start at a corner spot but he will find himself at safety by the end of the year, he's just too talented and we don't have much safety depth. The season probably won't start this way but I think this is how it will end, with these four starting.

Secondary

One would be nice but I think we need both to have a respectable defense next year. I think both of these guys could end up starting and maybe people disagree with me, which is fine, but at the very least they would make for some really strong competition for the secondary spots, which obviously makes people better. Also, it's always good to have depth, especially good depth. I feel like last year it was hard to experiment because we didn't have great depth.

All in all, I like the class but if we don't sign both of them I will be really disappointed. I say the class is good now but will be great if we get both of them.

Nervous

Yeah sorry, I realized that after it was posted. I'm just nervous for tomorrow. I feel like we really need to land Parker and Dorsey to solidify a respectable defense tomorrow. Granted, they may not both start or maybe neither of them but the more competition we have in the secondary, the better the out come.

Mooney Kid

I spoke with a kid that played for Cardinal Mooney a few years back. He was a Senior when Ray was a Soph. We were talking about Ray and he said before he left Ray was already Squating around 700lbs and he was the fastest kid on the team. He said he has crazy closing speed and loves to hit people. He also said that if anyone ever blew coverage that Ray was the one always running the guy down to save the TD, God knows we needed that last year. This kid had nothing but good things to say about him and that was just from his Soph year in High School. I really like Ray, I think he's going to a big contributor in a few years.

I like the odds

90% Parker
85% Knight
50% Dorsey

Love it

So glad he didn't go to OSU, they aren't having that great of a year. Who took the most Ohio prospects this year? Michigan. They may have some of the better Ohio recruits but I still like being able to say we recruited more Ohio talent than they did.

2006 Season

I would love the say the Championship season but I can't remember being as excited as I was that whole season when we went in undefeated against OSU's undefeated team. I still think we should have won that game if it wasn't for the crap call for the hit on Troy Smith. It was right after Bo die and emotions were on high. Even with the lose I think that was an amazing season full of emotions. We got to see the greatest RB and QB in Michigan history, record wise, in their prime. Great year that I will never forget, the rise before the fall I guess...

If we win, they will come

If we win big time next year and return to Big Ten dominance, I think you will see us with the number one recruiting class next year. All it's going to take is for Rich to win with a lot of young talent and highschool kids will say "Wow, I wanted to play for him and the Wolverines." Unfortunately, that's a lot easier typed then done. We need a big year.

Ouch

Atleast we have the better Christian in my opinion.

Good news

In a couple years we will have one of the strongest and deepest secondaries in the country.

Kareem Martin

I would say it's a good thing that UNC got a committ from a DE/DT named Kareem Martin today. Although most sites have him listed as a DE he could also be projected at the DT spot. Hopefully that will help Terry break out the scotch tape and fix that toren feeling he has.

May be true

It may be true that he fits the system better but until he learns to hold onto the football I don't want to see him start. We have to remember not only did he have an interception problem but a fumble problem as well. For as little as he ran the ball he fumbled an awful lot. If I were Rich I would be having him carry a ball around all year long 24/7 just like in the movie The Program.

This conversation

This conversation will occur 1,000 times before the start of next season for the simple reason that all of us diehard Wolverine football fans day dream everyday about next season. It's okay that, as fans, we are anticipating next season even though it's January and we enjoy talking about it regardless if we know who the likely starter at Qb is.

True, true

But we have to consider if a few recruits would have been offered by OSU if they had not committed so early to Michigan. Also, I would still argue that we are out recruiting them in their own state, they have only 5 in the Ohio top 50 where Michigan has 10 in the top 50...... yes they have the interest of the top recruits in Ohio that are uncommitted but for now I'd argue we have done better in their own state, technically I would argue we've done better overall. Considering Ohio is one of the top producers of football players I'd say we've done well. Regardless, it says a lot about the coaching staff to get that many kids from a rival state.

Glad to see

Welcome aboard Black.

I'm pumped that we're out recruiting OSU in their own state, currently 11 to Michigan and 7 osu. Sure they will argue they didn't offer half the guys but it still makes them look bad when the hated rival comes in and grabs a few of the better players in their own state and has the higher total.

That deserves a big

GO BLUE!!!

Agree w/ GoBlue

I agree with GoBlue. In my own opinion I think the top 4 highschool football states, in no specific order, are Texas, Fla., Cali., and Ohio. If we pipeline with actual highschools themselves thats all well and good but I think we need to start building pipelines in all four of those states big time, which I believe Rich Rod and staff have really focused on doing. As far as Ray is concerned I'm glad to see we're going after more Ohio players, I've said it before.... A lot of the best players in Michigan's past have come from Ohio and it makes it all the better they beat OSU (Desmond/Woodson, we need to get back to that.

Punishment

I would believe this is our punishment for taking for granted that we were always good and always went to a bowl. Honestly, I remember the time (4 years ago if that ) that if Michigan lost 2 games I was disappionted that year. Let this be a lesson to all of us Michigan fans to never take a winning season or a bowl game for granted again.

Shouldn't shut the door.

Honestly I think you accept as many verbal commitments as we can and when the time comes we say goodbye to whoever we must say goodbye too. I don't think Michigan should limit theirsevles at all. Yeah we have a pretty good looking class right now but their is definitly better prospects out there who are interested. Don't push them away and say we have no room, if they want to commit then I say let them. When we have to figure out who the 28 will be then that's when we cross that bridge but we shouldn't close the door on anyone right now, it's too early.

Finally

Finally something goes our way and we have some good news. Hopefully this news means we are heading toward the light at the end of the tunnel and more good news will continue to come.