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I played on the offensive…

I played on the offensive line at West Point in the mid to late 90s. While I appreciate Ace’s breakdown of the offense, and agree with most of it, I think the analysis on cut blocking is off base. I do not believe that Army coaches illegal blocking. They are well aware of the rules and try to exploit what they can. Of course Army is looking for ways for smaller lineman to make effective blocks against bigger and stronger opponents. There is, however, a big difference between hitting someone in the upper thigh or waist while engaged versus the knee. The individual cuts on the interior are legal. Army had more problems last year with downfield cuts after the rule change. You may think the rules should change, but I disagree with the notion that Army is blocking illegally. The best lineman from two years ago, Toth, just got picked up by the Arizona Cardinals. Lineman that can only chop and cut don’t make NFL rosters. 

I’ve heard Monken talk before about injury statistics due to cut blocking. I suppose he could be wrong, but he has said that there is no real evidence to support higher injury rates. He also stated that it has never been the case with his own players at practice.

There are ways to defend a cut block. We used to cut our teammates all the time at practice, and the defensive lineman were good at using their hands. A cut block can be very ineffective if you whiff or the opponent can jump the cut. I would expect UM to be coached up and ready to go. 

 

Well played, Sir. Well…

Well played, Sir. Well played.

I played at Army in the 90’s…

I played at Army in the 90’s and follow the team pretty closely. Finishing the season with another win over Navy, hoisting the CIC, a blowout of a short handed Houston team in the bowl game, and a national ranking was pretty nice relative to expectations last year.

In general, Monken has the program at the highest level since 1996. Entering year 6, I rarely hear anything even remotely negative said about him. The recruiting is finally outpacing USNA and USAFA, and the talent at both West Point and USMAPS (West Point Prep School) is outstanding versus norms. Hopkins is a legit option QB that can throw better than any recent Army QB I can think of. He tends to make really good decisions and takes care of the ball, but also sustains a lot of hits. Walker is a good RB/SB, but I think the running backs are largely interchangeable. They have a good system on offense and will usually execute it very well. Penalties (especially the chop block rule outside the tackle box) and turnovers take on even added importance as operating behind the chains is incredibly difficult for Army.

The loss of Brinson and Nachtigal on defense will really hurt. Nachtigal in particular was a playmaker. He gave the defense exactly what they needed. A third down sack, an interception, or a forced fumble. Army just has to be opportunistic on defense, which is what happened against Oklahoma (a game that cost me $50 to watch on PPV). 2-3 stops a game usually gives the offense a chance to win. 

My biggest issue with the Army football program is the schedule. I know it is tough to play as an independent, and there is likely not a lot of teams signing up to play them in the middle of a conference schedule, but they have to do better. Last year was a bad schedule, but 2019 is horrendous. That’s what makes the UM game even bigger. Army just might be favored in the rest of their games. They could play the entire season and I might not know how good they really are.

I really wish I could have seen Bush play against this offense. He might have had 30 tackles.

At this point, I see UM winning by 2 TDs. I just can’t imagine UM making the same mistakes that OU did. If UM comes out in a three man front and never stops the dive, then we’ll have a 4 quarter game. If UM stops the dive, it should be over by halftime. Duke forced some early uncharacteristic turnovers last year, got up early, and then forced Army into doing things they don’t do well. That is probably how this one will go too. 

This will be the first time I’ve ever rooted against UM. Realistically, I should just root for Army to cover the spread. But we’re really looking forward to being at the game and seeing what we can do.

Billy Zabka Zabka was great as Chaz Osborne in Back To School and as Jack in European Vacation. His greatest role outside of Johnny Lawrence, though, has to be Greg Tolan in Just One Of The Guys. That was an outstanding performance from a classic 80s bully with a feathered mullet. If Billy Zabka is in it, I’ll be watching.
Navy was a 3 point favorite. Navy was a 3 point favorite. This wasn’t a big upset and don’t forget Army shut out Air Force 21-0 on the road this year. I think the game will be competitive for as long as Monken stays at Army. The recruiting is finally on par with the other academies and West Point made some long overdue institutional changes in terms of admission policies and summer training assignments. I had to sit through 14 straight losses but the tide has turned. Time to get back to the celebration with my classmates. Big bites and PMI for the Corps! Beat ‘Em.
During a Syracuse game one During a Syracuse game one time, he said something like, "Syracuse comes out in a 2-3 zone....with man to man principles."
I don't understand why bottom I don't understand why bottom tier P5 schools don't run the triple option. Paul Johnson has shown it can work at Georgia Tech in the ACC. The blueprint is already out there. Why would a school like Kansas, Purdue, Rutgers, or Iowa State not give it a try? Those schools are not going to recruit with the top teams in their divisions. They are never going to be perennial contenders. Why not go to a different system that has been effective at GT and the Service Academies? If fans of those programs value wins over all else, they should give it a try.
I'm a USMA grad and former I'm a USMA grad and former Army football player. I was a new 2LT the last time we won. Fortunately I was able to celebrate today's win with some of the same people that were with me in 2001. This has been a long time coming. I can't even describe the feeling right now. We're going to party tonight like it's our job. Beat Navy!!!!!!!
This is the year the streak This is the year the streak ends. Forget the uniforms, just win the game. Sing second. Beat 'Em
I thought they were the Texas I thought they were the Texas State Fighting Armadillos, led by a gritty veteran QB named Paul Blake, who looks a lot like the dude on NCIS New Orleans.
Outstanding! One of the Outstanding! One of the Brigades I served in actually moved from Bliss to Sill. I guess I'm showing my age by calling it OBC, but BOLC was still being tested in my day. You know what else is at Bliss? The Bradley Linebacker.....in the ADA museum. Oh well. Whether you're working with FOs, firing the 155s, the MLRS, or anything else, thanks for your service. You have an exciting future ahead of you. I did 7 years active duty and got out after Battery command and 2 deployments. Those were (mostly) great times. I still keep in regular contact with a lot of friends still serving. Keep up the good fight!
I was ADA. I'm told the Fires I was ADA. I'm told the Fires Center at Sill now combines some ADA and FA schooling, but at the time all ADA schools were at Bliss. I'll take a wild guess you are/were FA? Love the big guns. King of Battle.
I was a brand new Second I was a brand new Second Lieutenant in the Army going through the Officer Basic Course at Fort Bliss in El Paso, TX. We had just finished PT and were getting ready for class when it happened. For the rest of the day everyone just watched the TV as the regularly scheduled training was postponed. I remember President Bush that night saying to get ready if you were wearing a uniform. I recall feeling sorrow and grief for all of the innocent civilian victims, but also an intense anger that our country could be attacked like that. On that day I was glad I was in the Army and I wanted to fight and do my part to destroy our nation's enemies. A few weeks later I graduated from OBC and subsequently deployed for the kickoff of the Iraq war as a platoon leader.
I agree that the flag means I agree that the flag means different things to different people, and that's ok. I don't want to take away his right to protest in that manner. He says that he isn't protesting the military, yet some veterans are still offended. Some white southerners say that they don't mean to offend African Americans with the confederate flag, yet they (understandably) still do. I just wish he would choose to express his thoughts using a different method. Not because he has to, but because he realizes that his actions are having unintended consequences and he has enough respect and common courtesy not to offend a group of veterans. I completely understand where you are coming from in believing that the flag can be used both to honor and protest. I respect that. I even agree with it. I'm simply saying that if you shared in some of the same experiences that I have, you might also hope that people would choose a different way to express their beliefs.
I did fight to protect I did fight to protect individual freedoms and liberties, and I recognized his right to express himself in that manner. You just can't expect me to support someone who chooses to use those freedoms to disrespect the flag that means a great deal to me. In between deployments, I served as the OIC on a funeral detail at Fort Hood for a month. As I presented the flag to grieving widows or mothers, I asked them to accept it "as a token of appreciation for your loved one's honorable and faithful service." That's what it means to me. If you really can't understand why it would bother me to see someone refuse to stand for that same flag, even though I willingly chose to fight for the right to do just that, I really don't know what else I can say to you.
I don't tell African I don't tell African Americans how to react to the confederate flag. I don't tell Native Americans how to feel about the Redskins moniker. As a two time OIF combat veteran, I'm offended by this protest, and I certainly don't need to be told how I should feel about it. Of course he has the right to do it, but he's going to have to deal with the backlash. I'm offended because I feel like the flag and national anthem symbolize what I fought for. They symbolize what some of my brothers and sisters in arms died for. When I looked at my right shoulder sleeve in a combat zone, there was an American flag right there. When my comrades were killed, their coffins were draped in American flags and displayed at the memorials. When I see a rich, young athlete turn his back on that, for whatever reason, I take it as disrespect. Maybe he didn't mean to, but that's how I interpret it. Colin may very well have legitimate points to make, but he should find another way to communicate his feelings.
I'm a West Point graduate. I I'm a West Point graduate. I believe it is always difficult to compare institutions with different missions, but I think those who are dismissing the service academies as academically inferior are just wrong. Yes, the metrics used by Forbes do artificially inflate rankings for "free" institutions, but look at the academic profiles of the incoming classes. Based on standardized test scores, USMA is right there with UM. In my opinion, it is more difficult to gain an appointment to West Point than it is to be accepted at UM. I believe that because you need to get a congressional nomination, pass a thorough physical examination, pass a fitness assessment, and meet height/weight requirements. In addition to the academic screenings, leadership experience and potential carries a lot of weight. Athletic participation is also a key factor in the admissions process. I think the average cadet is more well rounded than the average freshman at UM. Plus, there are usually only about 1200 new cadets that enter each year, so it is quite a bit smaller. USMA also stacks up quite well in things like number of Rhodes and Marshall scholars (and Medal of Honor recipients). Despite the small number of graduates, West Point has produced a lot of leaders both in and out of uniform. From presidents and other government leaders to astronauts to engineers to businesspeople, the list of distinguished graduates is impressive. One of my favorites has always been Michigan native Pete Dawkins, who won the Heisman and was also a Rhodes scholar.

I have the utmost respect for UM as an academic institution. I have family members with advanced degrees from UM that I hold in high regard. I'm not necessarily claiming that USMA is a better academic school, but if you think there isn't an argument to be made, I believe you should take a closer look at the service academies. What the Forbes rankings did do correctly was put USMA ahead of USNA and USAFA! Oh, and look out for the Black Knights coming into Ann Arbor in 2019. Just kidding, but I think the UM fans will enjoy hosting Army.

Beat Navy
Thank you. I've just never Thank you. I've just never heard such a loud background noise on a sports telecast before, so I was a bit surprised. Part of the game, I see, so I'll turn down the volume a bit and keep rooting them on.
I'm fairly new to softball, I'm fairly new to softball, so I'm wondering if it is common on broadcasts to have the background noise on the field be so prominent? I enjoy watching these athletes compete, but it feels like the chanting and cheering is drowning out the announcers.
He should take up diving in He should take up diving in college and attempt the Triple Lindy.
Highway: My name's Gunnery Highway: My name's Gunnery Sergeant Highway and I've drunk more beer and banged more quiff and pissed more blood and stomped more ass than all of you numbnuts put together. Now Major Powers has put me in charge of this reconisence platoon.

Heartbreak Ridge
If you ever do head over If you ever do head over there for a game, I would recommend watching the morning parade at The Plain and then tailgating at Buffalo Soldier Field or the river courts. The home slate is incredibly weak this year, but Air Force is coming to Michie. I've seen too many losses to feel confident, but I honestly believe Monken has the program heading in the right direction.
One thing I love about Pearl One thing I love about Pearl Jam concerts is that the focus is always on the music. If you're looking for lights and fire, it isn't the show for you. One of the best things I ever witnessed live was Eddie coming out and performing a few songs solo in front of a sparse crowd before the opening act (which was Sonic Youth BTW). Love me some Pearl Jam.
I immediately thought of I immediately thought of Stephen Tulloch. I think he's listed at 5'11" but I would guess he's closer to 5'9". With that sort of sideline to sideline speed, coupled with the explosive power, I believe he'll be just fine.
This one hurts so bad. Why go This one hurts so bad. Why go for the WR pass in that situation? My only saving grace is that there are a lot of plebes and yuks out there for Army. With Coach Ken on the way to BYU, I can only hope the future is bright and that the steak ends next year. I was a 2LT when Army last won. My buddies who are still in are getting ready to pin on LTC. So very sad. But there are no moral victories here. As GEN MacArthur said, there is no substitute for victory!
Why has Navy dominated the Why has Navy dominated the series recently? I firmly believe that one big reason has been the wars. I think it has been easier for Navy (and Air Force) to recruit players who like the concept of service, but don't necessarily want boots on the ground in a combat zone. If you're a hard charger, you can compete for a SEAL slot or be a Marine. If that isn't for you, then you can serve on a ship. I am in no way marginalizing service on a ship, but I think it's fair to say that you're likely safer there than sitting in an outpost in Iraq or Afghanistan. In addition, Army only recently began doing some of the things with summer training that Navy has been (wisely) doing for years. Basically, they keep the team together for a longer period of time on the installation. I could go on, but those are the two biggest reasons for the 13 years of failure in my opinion. They aren't excuses, but rather explanations for those wondering. These losses have been painful and have impacted the morale of cadets and graduates for some time. Army's coach Monken is a former Navy assistant who understands how to win at an Academy. There is a lot more young talent now at USMA and the Prep School. It also looks like Ken N is taking a look at BYU. So we'll see moving forward. For today, Navy is a 23 point favorite for a reason. They have a great program and an outstanding QB. But this has to stop. Go Army! Beat Navy!

Beat 'Em
Hopefully the undecided Hopefully the undecided recruits see that Michigan is just a couple key players away.
Poor tackling is the story of Poor tackling is the story of the game unfortunately.
The linebackers have to do a The linebackers have to do a much better job tackling to have any chance at a comeback.
I never thought I'd say this I never thought I'd say this a month ago, but I have more confidence in the offense putting up points in the second half than I do the defense coming up with big stops.
Good luck to your son! I hope Good luck to your son! I hope his adjustment is going as well as can be expected. I would think as a firstie in good standing he could catch a trip section or some sort of pass/leave in conjunction with the game. I'm sure the West Point Parent's Club of Michigan will set up something big for the game as well. In the meantime, I'm heading down to Ypsilanti in September to watch Army beat EMU.

Go Blue! Beat Navy!
Army went 7-6 in 2010 with an Army went 7-6 in 2010 with an appearance in the Armed Forces Bowl. Since then, they've been a 3-4 win team every year. The program is definitely down. But in the last 4 years, they do have wins against UConn, Boston College, Air Force, and Northwestern.
Jeff Monken won in the Swamp Jeff Monken won in the Swamp with Georgia Southern a couple years ago, and he should have Army playing at a much higher level in 2019. There was an Army/Michigan game on the schedule (at least tentative as I recall) when I went to West Point to play ball in the late 1990s. Army used the game in recruiting, and for a lifelong Wolverine fan growing up in the state like me, it was definitely a factor. In fact, former Michigan LB John Milligan was the Army coach that told me about it back then. The game was subsequently cancelled when Army made an ill fated and brief move to Conference USA. I'm glad to see the game is finally going to be played. It will be great exposure for Army, an easy win for Michigan, and a different opponent for fans to see. I think Michigan fans will also appreciate some of the West Point traditions that will be on display that day as well. I never thought I'd see the day when I'd have to pick a side in this one, but I'll be there rooting on my Black Knights and would be satisfied if they keep it within 2 touchdowns.

Beat Navy
The Academy leadership The Academy leadership believes there is a lot of confusion. I'd like to think that most people are generally aware of West Point, but it seems that many are not.
I'm a West Point graduate and I'm a West Point graduate and played football for the Black Knights in the late 1990s. I grew up in Michigan and remain a huge Wolverine fan. I would classify the alumni reaction to the rebranding efforts as mixed, but with a negative lean. Graduates generally like the new uniforms, the color schemes, and even the new logo. Having a secondary nickname ("Cadets") and mascot (the Army mule) is confusing, but not nearly as confusing as "Army West Point." The name has inspired almost universal hatred with the alumni base. I understand that Academy leadership and Nike officials were trying to address the public confusion around what West Point is and the relationship the institution has with the regular Army. A lot of people don't differentiate between the two, so they wanted to address that. In my mind, though, throwing the two together as "Army West Point" is clunky and clumsy. I would have preferred "Army Cadets" and then drive on with the Airborne mission, but they didn't ask me. Apparently they did consult other graduates and former players, but I'm not sure they actually listened. The United States Military Academy at West Point has a lot of tradition. So does the football team. Although I understand Army football will never return to the former glory days, I believe it is a mistake to deviate too much from a successful past. A name change certainly crosses that line. My issue is with the Superintendent, who pushed for and approved the name change.

I don't think Michigan fans have anything to worry about if the school joins the Nike family. Any potential changes at Michigan would be much more minor in nature and done through a more collaborative process.

Army (I will not refer to the team as Army West Point) has lost 13 straight games to Navy and that is an even bigger problem. Go out and beat those guys and then I guess you can call the team whatever you want.

Beat Navy!!!
Coach Bonamego was my special Coach Bonamego was my special teams coach at Army in the late 90s. Bob Sutton, John Milligan, and Bill Sheridan were a few of the other coaches there at the time. I don't recall thinking back then that he was destined to be a head coach one day, but I found him to be competent and fair. He certainly had the requisite knowledge and aptitude to perform in that role. I also thought he was very personable and energetic. I have no idea how he'll do at CMU, but I certainly wish him the best of luck.
Just wondering how many hat Just wondering how many hat fakes we'll be subjected to? Hopefully everyone can at least pronounce the name of the school they are committing to correctly this year.
I think it's a good idea to I think it's a good idea to play a game like this every once in a while where you have the spotlight all to yourself. Recruits everywhere will be watching this game.
I think the OP nailed it with I think the OP nailed it with the open disdain for MSU and OSU. One of the disappointing things about Hoke was how he responded (or didn't respond) to blatant disrespect from Dantonio in particular. Also, I'm certainly no Meyer fan, but he seems to give thoughtful answers to media questions. I'm guessing Jim will also give a little more insight and a little less rhetoric compared to Hoke.
Certainly some differences, Certainly some differences, but also some similarities between the two. They are both fiery competitors. I think what separates Harbaugh is his success as a player and of course his NFL time. Meyer is a great coach, but he doesn't have those two things.
B1G was an underdog in every B1G was an underdog in every bowl game and is now 2-1 with Nebraska giving USC a real scare. Beating UNC in Detroit or BC in NYC isn't the pinnacle, but I think it does mean the conference was slightly underrated.
Thanks for this post. As a Thanks for this post. As a lifelong Michigan fan, West Point graduate, and former Army football player, I certainly agree the Army/Navy game is special. I just hope that Monken and the Academy administration get things sorted out quickly so this ridiculous streak ends soon. A more competitive rivalry will make the fan atmosphere even better. Beat Navy!