OT Forbes top 25 public universities
August 28th, 2016 at 11:33 AM ^
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August 28th, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^
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Why do these lists come out seemingly every 3 months? Nothing has changed since the last list yet we are again in a different position. They're completely useless as anything other than recruiting ammo.
August 28th, 2016 at 1:33 PM ^
That's precisely why these lists are complete bullshit. Universities don't significantly change in months or even years. It probably takes up to a decade to see significant shifts in a university. Therefore, these lists that change every time they are put out are really not so transparent attempts to get clicks.
August 28th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
They expect us to click through 25 pictures...no.
August 28th, 2016 at 1:16 PM ^
They also expect us to disable our ad blocker...not going to happen
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These rankings are idiotic. You can make alot of schools a top 5 based on which metrics you use. UM is anywhere from one of the top schools in the world to the #7 public (my ass), depending on which ranking you go by. To me, it is with Berkley and UVa. I no longer consider UNC a top academic institution, fake classes and all.
August 28th, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^
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August 29th, 2016 at 6:37 AM ^
The compulsory military service may be a feature, not a bug. Just think - a 100% hiring rate right out of school.
August 29th, 2016 at 11:33 AM ^
They're goosing the system at both ends - it's genius!
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I always liked Craig and Angie better
August 28th, 2016 at 12:30 PM ^
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August 28th, 2016 at 12:47 PM ^
Patriotism is cool and all, but there is no universe where the military academies are at the same level as Cal or UVA (or us :) ).
August 28th, 2016 at 4:15 PM ^
August 28th, 2016 at 1:06 PM ^
Forbes is a mess. Content-wise it has turned into Business Buzzfeed (Bizfeed?). Its website freaks out at most adblockers. I use uBlock Origin and Forbes doesn't even know what to do with it. It just freezes on the quote page.
August 28th, 2016 at 1:42 PM ^
I spent 2 years at West Point and 2 years at Michigan. The 2 years at West Point were like repeating high school, and the 2 years at Michigan were really hard, partly because I learned so little at West Point in spite of doing well in terms of class rank. Unless things have changed dramatically, which is certainly possible considering my last year at West Point was 1966, having Michigan below West Point is the height of absurdity.
August 28th, 2016 at 2:00 PM ^
I didn't read the article and don't care to. The author, or Forbes, are making a point by having the academies ranked 1 - 3. They are good schools, but do not hold a candle to the other top ranked universities.
August 29th, 2016 at 9:00 AM ^
You've never been, so you have no idea.
I took as many engineering classes as engineering students do, but I didn't graduate with an engineering degree. If I had, it would have been a LOT more.
August 28th, 2016 at 2:12 PM ^
This is a bit odd, that the service acadamies are ranked at the top. Like to think our armed forces graduates are the smartest in the country but somethng tells me not. The usual order of public universities is Cal at the top followed by us, UCLA, UVA, and William and Mary in some sort of order. Yes W&M makes it into the top rankings a lot and it is a public university ( like a lot of us I thought it was private )
August 28th, 2016 at 4:10 PM ^
They provide a unique experience ( or perhaps ordeal is the right word) but as far as an actual education they're well behind schools like Michigan, Cal and UVa.
August 28th, 2016 at 4:10 PM ^
They provide a unique experience ( or perhaps ordeal is the right word) but as far as an actual education they're well behind schools like Michigan, Cal and UVa.
August 28th, 2016 at 4:19 PM ^
Comparing universities across categories is a fool's errand. A big university is not trying to do the same things as a smaller liberal arts school, and vice versa. They are just different and quite happy to be that way. Comparing the service academies (who are trying to produce military officers afterall) is very, very different from what Michigan or UVA is trying to do.
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August 28th, 2016 at 8:52 PM ^
I have the utmost respect for UM as an academic institution. I have family members with advanced degrees from UM that I hold in high regard. I'm not necessarily claiming that USMA is a better academic school, but if you think there isn't an argument to be made, I believe you should take a closer look at the service academies. What the Forbes rankings did do correctly was put USMA ahead of USNA and USAFA! Oh, and look out for the Black Knights coming into Ann Arbor in 2019. Just kidding, but I think the UM fans will enjoy hosting Army.
Beat Navy
August 28th, 2016 at 9:50 PM ^
How about that...a reasonable, well-thought out argument on the internet...The academies are unique so it will always be hard to accurately point out their place in these rankings, but as you said a case can be made.
Thanks for your service.
August 28th, 2016 at 11:50 PM ^
These are the first rankings I've seen that don't wildly overrate Berkeley.
August 29th, 2016 at 1:50 AM ^
I dont consider UNC to have any academic integrity with the outright fraud that they have been pulling off and finally got caught for.