November 20th, 2022 at 11:06 AM ^
Pains me to say this, but LSU. I'd say SC's defense is nonexistent, but then what do you say about UCLA? Clemson is just not good -- I think they would go 3-11 against the rest of the top 15 teams. LSU struggled early but seems to have it together now.
November 20th, 2022 at 1:59 PM ^
Tennessee throttled LSU in Shreveport. I understand that there is a recent game bias in college football rankings but there shouldn't be, at least not until the system is expanded so that all teams with an argument make it into the playoff. Throw in Bama and I'd rank them Tennessee, LSU, and Bama in that order and they are all behind USC and Clemson. Will the committee have the balls to do that though?
November 20th, 2022 at 1:59 PM ^
Agree, LSU is my first team outside the top 4 - just a very dangerous team right now. I probably have USC right behind them
November 20th, 2022 at 11:06 AM ^
It’ll be 5. USC, 6. LSU, 7. Clemson
November 20th, 2022 at 11:10 AM ^
USC would have to be there. Then probably LSU
November 20th, 2022 at 11:14 AM ^
Easiest: Not Clemson
Harder: USC then LSU, but I think the committee's boner for anything SEC will give LSU the nod in the real rankings.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:16 AM ^
5: USC
6: LSU
7: Clemons
USC’s defense is ass, but their lone loss was by 1 @Utah. Although LSU has two losses, including a blowout to TN at home, they have to keep that second SEC team within striking distance for you know, reasons. Clemons only has 1 loss, but they’re a damn fraud, the ACC is severely overrated, and ND blasted them.
It would’ve been awesome if UCLA pulled it off yesterday.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^
Darrius is 10-0, undefeated.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:20 AM ^
Bama will jump Clemson.
They need to set it up so if TCU and/or USC lose, Bama can sneak in above 1 loss UM/OSU loser.
SEC deserves 2 teams in because it just means more.
1) UGA
2) OSU
3) UM
4) TCU
5) USC
6) LSU
7) Bama
8) Clemson
November 20th, 2022 at 11:28 AM ^
I have a feeling this is going to happen. Regardless, CFB do not have dominant teams this year when 2 loss LSU is #5, no defense USC is #6 and candy ass Clemson is #8.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:17 PM ^
Yeah not the strongest year for college football.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:05 PM ^
I only see two SEC teams getting in if LSU beats Georgia. They'll put a two-loss SEC champion in, but I don't think they'd put a two-loss team in that doesn't win the championship.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:07 PM ^
(sorry - double post)
November 20th, 2022 at 12:14 PM ^
Bama is not getting in with 2 losses and not playing in the SEC title game anyway. If LSU were to beat Georgia honestly they probably deserve it.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:22 AM ^
Rooting interests next week are clear
notre dame
unc
auburn
iowa state.
penn state.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:25 AM ^
Michigan.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:28 AM ^
Our rooting interests won’t be clear until after the Game. If we win, we don’t need to worry about much
November 20th, 2022 at 11:34 AM ^
This POV is underappreciated. If we win, I want the weakest team in at #3 and the best possible #4 to, one, give Georgia a tough game even in a loss, and two, maybe pull out a dramatic win after which they need to quickly reset to face us in the finals.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:04 PM ^
There's not much to reset when facing UGA then Michigan. Both teams want to grind you into the dirt offensively, and hit you in the face defensively. They're pretty similar when you get right down to it.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:52 PM ^
Our rooting interests won’t be clear until after the Game.
Yes, it's really quite interesting. If we win, our rooting interests will instantly go 180 degrees in the opposite direction.
We don't want OSU to sneak in the back door of the CFP after we beat them at home.
And we would also want those you-know-they-are-not-really-that-good teams like Clemson and TCU to now make it in the CFP.
Everything turns on a dime at 3:30 PM on Saturday.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:46 AM ^
Don't forget Texas A&M. They can knock off LSU on senior night if their offense shows up and they play like this is their bowl game (which it is...woof).
November 20th, 2022 at 11:50 AM ^
Rooting interests are only relevant if Michigan loses. If Michigan wins, whatever else happens is completely irrelevant. We’ll be in.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:26 AM ^
Bama
Bama
November 20th, 2022 at 11:28 AM ^
USC should be 5 but they won't.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:29 AM ^
Should be :
USC
LSU
Clemson
November 20th, 2022 at 11:39 AM ^
Look at LSUs schedule and I cant figure why theyre even close to the CFP other than the perception that Bama is awesome. Their 2nd best win is…thunking Ole Miss? Who just got killed by Arkansas…
- UGA
- OSU
- M
- TCU
- USC
- Penn State
- Oregon
- Clemson
- Tennessee
- LSU
- Alabama
November 20th, 2022 at 12:16 PM ^
lol
You can't knock Bama and then rank them #11.
There is not that much different from beating the #8 team to beating the #11 team.
So even if they are overrated (which I think they are)...you just killed your own point when you posted your rankings.
That's still a very quality win (beating #11). Michigan is using PSU as a quality win and that's about what they are ranked.
And the transitive property kills your other point...because who is Michigan's second best win?
Illinois? They lost to MSU... So Ole Miss losing to Arkansas (who is better than MSU btw) doesn't mean what you're claiming it means. Not unless you want to discredit Michigan as well.
You are doing exactly what you're accusing SEC homers of doing...you're picking and choosing data to meet your own narrative, when there are blatant contradictions right in front of you.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:38 PM ^
Using your logic for LSU on Penn St. What's Penn St's second best win? Heck, what's their best win?
November 20th, 2022 at 1:52 PM ^
Penn State's best win is probably Ohio State in 2016. /s
November 20th, 2022 at 9:18 PM ^
Eeek, great point.
Giving PSU credit for almost beating OSU seems to be the number one argument on their behalf.
Anyway, I get the SEC fatigue...but posts like the one above are just as bad.
Especially when someone complains about them and then puts 4 SEC teams in their top 11.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:44 AM ^
USC should be above LSU. They were a 2-point conversion away from beating Utah on the road and being undefeated. It's all gonna be academic in a few weeks anyway because there's no way that LSU offense can score on UGA and their defense has enough holes to be exploited in the passing game.
Personally, I think LSU, USC and Clemson all have at least one more loss in them and will be shut out of the playoff.
November 20th, 2022 at 11:49 AM ^
My list wouldn't be who I think the better team actually is, it'd have to be based on the years performance and records.
For right now:
I'd have to rank Tennessee over LSU and Bama because they beat them both this year, including @ LSU, and have equal records, even though their season is clearly over going forward.
I have to have USC move up over LSU, due to the recent ranked win, and their only loss being @ ranked utah by 1 point.
I have to put Oregon over Tennessee as the best 2 loss team, by resume. Both losses were ranked, one on the road, and one of those was to Georgia in week 1, and have 3 ranked wins on the season, including a top 10 win.
Clemson stays low due to only 1 quality win @ FSU.
Georgia
Ohio State
Michigan
TCU
USC
Oregon
Tennessee
LSU
Bama
Clemson
Penn State
November 20th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^
5. USC
6. LSU or Penn St.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:12 PM ^
November 20th, 2022 at 12:19 PM ^
Are you Pond Time? You screenshot that account a lot.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:03 PM ^
Very unlikely USC beats both ND and Oregon. If they do, then they deserve to be in.
As others have said, if we win we want the toughest possible team at #4 to test Georgia. Either OSU or Bama.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:06 PM ^
5: USC
6: LSU
7: Clemson
#GoBlue
November 20th, 2022 at 12:16 PM ^
USC. LSU. Clemson not in my top 10. I watched the officials help Clemson prevail over Syracuse at Clemson in a close game and they lost to ND badly.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:55 PM ^
The Syracuse game was a crime.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:23 PM ^
I will be interested to see if Penn State makes the top ten this week.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:56 PM ^
They are shaping up as a very strong win for us.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:28 PM ^
The question is, does the committee reward USC for beating a quality opponent, or do they reward LSU for beating Birmingham, a scrub, in the middle of the season after all their talk about strength of schedule.
My prediction: LSU at 5.
November 20th, 2022 at 1:17 PM ^
SEC wins count double. And their losses count as wins.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:31 PM ^
Well, any argument about the top teams has to begin with the premise that Alabama is the best team in the country at any given time, no matter what. So, that's a given.
LSU and Tennessee actually beat Alabama, so those two teams are the betterest teams in the country.
And then Tennessee beat LSU! So, Tennessee is the bestest great team in the country.
But then, but then Georgia and South Carolina beat Tennessee, who beat Alabama and LSU, so Georgia and South Carolina are the bestest bestest teams in the country.
But wait! Arkansas beat South Carolina, so Arkansas is even the betterest team in the country!!!
OMG Texas A&M and Mississippi St beat Arkansas though, so those are the best and final best teams in the country with Georgia!!!!
So, the top eight in the playoff rankings should therefore be:
- Alabama
- Georgia
- Texas A&M
- Mississippi St.
- Arkansas
- South Carolina
- Tennessee
- LSU
November 20th, 2022 at 12:41 PM ^
Because the CFP committee genuflects at the altar of Nick Saban the committee’s efforts will focus on moving Alabama up to 6th this week and then higher next week. Plus, Gary Danielson said they still have a shot.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:43 PM ^
If it was me - and note this is only based on resume to date:
Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, USC, PSU, Oregon, Clemson (at 11).
Despite last night, I’d still rank the 3 non Georgia SEC teams based on head to head. And all of them have better wins than anyone else further down the line.
Before I get the neg votes for “SEC bias!” - only LSU and USC have a chance (USC has 2 of them) to significantly boost their resume. Nobody except LSU and USC can really jump the Top 4 IMO unless you get something crazy (eg TCU or Georgia losing out).
Absent some craziness, it’s down to 6 teams for 4 spots. The current top 4 plus LSU and USC. I wouldn’t worry about Tennessee or Alabama.
November 20th, 2022 at 6:38 PM ^
The problem people forget to notice is those "better" wins are only better because the sec teams are already ranked higher than they should be.
It's all about perception. If the PAC started the season with 4 teams in the top 8, the perception would be those teams are just so good they are all beating up on each other. That's what we get every year with sec. I've been saying it for years. If the sec was really that good they wouldn't have an undefeated team every year. Sure bama and Georgia are good, but it falls off a cliff after that just like the big ten.
November 20th, 2022 at 12:49 PM ^
USC
Clemson
LSU