We have 25 open right now and 25 commitments. The coaches can thank Mike Jones for his time with the program, but where would we find 2 more schollies if the class potentially gets up to 28? They aren't gonna "suggest" football isn't for them after working their asses off, are they?
Where will Michigan find scholarships to round out this class?
the departure of current college students who play for the school we root for. Some of them even read this blog.
I've heard rumors of one defensive player who will not return. I'm not sure where other spots could come from, aside from Jones.
And that defensive players name is...?
Meant to leave that information...or not at all.
See the thread's first comment.
There are 3-4 people who don't come back. How many did we loose last summer, 5?
Maybe he was referring to injuries related to inflexibility. If you don't stretch enough (aka loose) then you get injured and have to leave the team.
Or to turn loose of. Loose is also used as a verb commonly, so we could haved "loosed" several players.
Is this unnamed defensive player who is rumored to be leaving a role player or potential starter? In other words, will his departure hurt?
He's a guy whose absence probably wouldn't be noticed very much.
but asked that I not tell anyone...
You'll just have to wait and hear, or email Brady yourself. That's just the way this goes, bro
I only have his Instagram and Reddit contact, PM me and I'll send them to you.
You need to be more specific with your last sentence.
You can make room for incoming scholarship players via attrition by changes to your roster in the following ways.
- Players see the writing on the wall depth chart wise and transfer. Say Hoke finds that some incoming freshman will start over some juniors or seniors who are lower on the depth chart, they would be free to leave.
- Players get into trouble and get kicked off the team
- Players grades don't cut it and they are asked to leave. Rarely does this happen but players must maintain the minimum GPA of the institution they attend which for Michigan is a 2.0 (correct me if I'm wrong). Here is a link for more info on the academic stuff.
- Players leave early... Had Lewand left early, it would free up a scholarship for someone else but I'm not sure who is on the fence for Michigan to make the leap to the NFL.
- Players get homesick and tranfer back home
- Players Gray Shirt
Most of attrition occurs between the time the bowl season ends to the time summer camp starts. Gray shirting players however is the last resort. I'm not familar with the entire roster for Michigan so I'm not sure who goes under which category but apply to the individual as needed. I'm sure the coaches will make room if Larue and Co. were to finish out the class.
Doubtful the coaches would take any of these routes to purposefully make room in the class. They have always been frank with the number if spots open in the class and that has only ever changed so far AFTER players on the roster changed their plans.
Attrition of 2 is probably to be expected between now and next season from transfers and playing time and dudes giving up football. But the first thing on your list should be medicals--players hurt too badly to ever be able to play football again who can stay on scholarship but not count against the 85. Saban has been known to abuse medical'ing to slice down his roster (kids he medical'd transferred and played elsewhere). Michigan has had a few take advantage of this in recent years--Talbott and Teric Jones were two.
don't frickin worry about it. Let the coaches worry about it.
Can't say this keep me up at night. I was curious after Sam Webb said we could 29. I appreciate your deep concern for me though.
If we consistently adopted that philosophy there would certainly be many fewer things to read about on MGoBlog. Aren't most of us here much of the tim to do the opposite?
If we can talk about the "best online sports betting site", we can certainly talk about this.
I think most people just don't want to know how the sausage is made.
Will Hagerup for one.
Kids had enough chances and there's nothing wrong with Matt wile.
We are the people in the cave staring at the shadow puppets on the wall. The coaches are the ones outside the cave who understand the world as it presently exists. Now, they could try to explain the world to us, but we don't really need that knowledge, and there's a good chance we wouldn't understand it anyway.
did you have H. D. Cameron?
Never took Great Books. I know it was assigned reading for some class, but I don't know which one. Poli Sci 101, maybe? It was with a guy with a huge Greek (?) accent. Hard to remember, because it was a thousand years ago.
Could easily be replacing a punter,Defensive Line prospect or two and a Safety who's never really lived up to expectations. We honestly for two years have been thining out the hurd cause like the sign says those who stay will be champions.
Interesting stabs at both thinning and herd.
As I understand it, because we had 6 students early enroll we are now sitting at 19 commits for the Fall. Therefore, we could take as many as we wanted as long as we don't go over the 85 total scholarship limit.
Only 3 of the early enrollees can be pushed back to last years class
We can't go over 25 per class. We had 22 in the 2012 class, so 3 of the early enrollees still will be considered part of the 2013 class.
But because three players from '12 enrolled early, those three were counted against '11. But again, I was told there would be no math.
You are wrong on nearly every point that you make.
Probably why he's been banned, and only shows up on the apps. Guy's a douchebag in every post
I've been banned? What are you talking about?
Oh my. I replied to a post from buck killer that is caved now. Sorry, my post is not directed at you.
Would you actually care to explain it properly then?
EDIT: Sorry, my wording is making me sound like an asshole with this post. I actually legitimately want to know. What did I say besides the "all 6 would count for last year" that is wrong?
If we back date 3 of the EEs (which I believe by B1G rule is the max), then we would have 22 count against 2013 so we could still add 3 before hitting the annual limit. However, the 3 backdated EEs + 22 in 2013 would put us at the 85 total limit. So, as I understand it, it is really the 85 limit that causes us to have to lose some players if we want to add more in 2013 and in any case we can't add more than 3 more.
I've heard that the B1G has a limit of back dating no more than 3 EEs. If that is the case, I'm not sure how a team in the B1G could ever go above 28 in a class.
Oh my. I'm glad I can see this on my phone app. You sir need some help.
too bad there isn't an -idiocy-moderation tag...then there wouldn't be any speculation when someone says trolling, overrated, or flamebait
I have often wanted the same thing. Just a BS tag, Verbal Diarrhea, or just plain ole’ STUPID!
I haven't sat around doing the math but I find it hard to believe we would even be in a numbers crunch with all the player attrition we've had over a couple previous classes.
I would say don't worry about it, if Texas A&M can have a class in the 30's and Ohio can have a class at 21 ( and counting while under sancations) then I don't think Michigan has anything to worry about.
Beat Ohio today!!!
Its like a loss of scholarships...only it's not. Please see USC and or Ohio State.
Really like Hunt. Probably should take 1 more Receiver. Larue would be a real nice addition also. I would hate to have to make these decisions.
I won't speculate on who will leave, but given the number of players that left in recent years, I think we can safely assume that at least 2-3 more will leave.
The best place to find schollies is in SEC land. I hear they grow on the trees down there.
Except for one tree at auburn. /toosoon?
Anyone can come up with 4-6 potential losses.
Guys who haven't played or have already been passed up by younger guys.
Looking at the roster there are 6 I'd be surprised if they came back.
It doesn't matter who specifically, we have a handful of players who likely won't be playing much, if at all, for various reasons. Injury, talent, redundancy at position, slow development. The coaches know what's happening with the roster and their kids. If they say there's room, then there's room, even if we don't know about it yet.
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Nobody will be upset if you're gay. It's 2013.