What would Lloyd Carr do? Words Coach Dantonio should learn to live by!

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October 10th, 2010 at 11:10 AM
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What would Lloyd Carr do? Words Coach Dantonio should learn to live by!

I have to get this off my chest!  For years now I have been so upset about Coach Dantonio (the head coach) and his immature need to continue verbally sparring with Mike Hart (a young man and a football player) in the national media!!  Would Lloyd Carr EVER carry on in this manner?  Maybe in the locker-room, maybe these words would drive him, but in the media?  Coach Carr was always the definition of class -- in victory and defeat and the examples are numerous!!

I think its time for Coach Dantonio to decide what or who he wants to be -- everything he does from his motivating tactics to his clothes are stolen ideas from someone else. 

Coach D -- you're not Tressel and you're certainly not Coach Izzo!!    I think you are a good football coach, but........

when tough times present themselves,  you needs to think,  WWLCD!  [That's right, there should be a bumper sticker] -- What would Lloyd Carr do -- because it was always the classy thing!!

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October 10th, 2010 at 11:17 AM | uper (Score:1)
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Dear Uper,

The phone is ringing. It's 2007 calling, and it's for you.

Also, never use one exclamation point when two will do.

 

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October 10th, 2010 at 11:26 AM | Thanks! (Score:1)
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Coach, Schiano, we still don't want you! 

I wasn't on the board then, sorry.....Obviously, the lesson still hasn't been learned...Thanks for the lesson in grammar.   Just be glad, I didn't end my post with, eh!

October 10th, 2010 at 11:18 AM | Mike Hart:  4-0 against (Score:1)
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Mike Hart:  4-0 against Michigan State.  

End of discussion.

October 10th, 2010 at 12:38 PM | Don't forget he's a GSI, (Score:1)
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Don't forget he's a GSI, which makes him privy to insider Athletic Department knowledge.

October 10th, 2010 at 1:13 PM | Man, if Wolverine318 and Los (Score:1)
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Man, if Wolverine318 and Los Barcos ever get in an internet slap fight it will be epic. I was a moderate critic of Carr, am a huge supporter of Rodriguez, but I totally agree with what you have to say here. Critiquing Carr on football grounds is fair play; same with Rodriguez. W318's rant is beyond idiotic.

October 10th, 2010 at 11:26 AM | Dantonio (Score:1)
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He is considered classy b/c he says that he's classy and that others aren't.  As Jon Chait pointed out, words are more important these days than deeds. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

October 10th, 2010 at 11:28 AM | You are grabbing hold of (Score:1)
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You are grabbing hold of anything to make you feel better, even reaching years into the past. The truth is that Dantonio carried himself in a very classy way yesterday. There is nothing to complain about. 

October 10th, 2010 at 12:48 PM | Totally agree.  Gotta feel (Score:1)
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Totally agree.  Gotta feel good for the guy to be able to coach his team given the last month.  

The guy is a competitor.  Can't deny it.

October 10th, 2010 at 11:44 AM | Did Dantonio spar with Mike (Score:1)
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Did Dantonio spar with Mike Hart this week in the media? Did I miss something?

Sincerely,

Cpt. Ass-Hat

October 10th, 2010 at 2:19 PM | No, but some people need (Score:1)
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No, but some people need something--anything--to cling to after a lose.  Dantonio, hate to say it, was very classy yesterday.  He was asked about the Hart comment, and all he said was "sometimes little brother grows up."

We should be more worried about our defense than Dantonio.

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October 10th, 2010 at 11:46 AM | How Spartan-esque of us to (Score:1)
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How Spartan-esque of us to rip on Dantonio after he just beat us for the 3rd time in a row.

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October 10th, 2010 at 11:48 AM | I like your beer thinking as (Score:1)
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I like your beer thinking as well. +1 for the beer avatar and comment combined

Sincerely,

Cpt. Ass-Hat

October 10th, 2010 at 12:08 PM | This is why Mike Hart never (Score:1)
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This is why Mike Hart never should have run his mouth in the first place.

Three years later, who's taking the brunt of his words?  U of M, its fans, and its team.

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October 10th, 2010 at 12:26 PM | +1 to you Magnus (Score:1)
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You sir are correct.

 

 

 

 

October 10th, 2010 at 12:53 PM | Magnus (Score:1)
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That is a good, honest analysis you have of the game on TTB. If anyone other than you, perhaps Sharik, or jmblue had issued those criticisms on this board, they would have been neg-bombed and called "bandwagoners". I am glad glad there is somewhere safe to go to read more objective analysis. 

October 10th, 2010 at 12:55 PM | I agree about Mike Hart's (Score:1)
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I agree about Mike Hart's comments.   I wish he wouldn't have said anything, but I am sure there were words flying from both sides. 

Magnus, you would know better than me because you are a coach, but I don't think the team is taking it because of his words, maybe the fans.  Everyone should be fired up to play against a rival.  Bulletin board comments may get you fired up for the moment, but those guys should be fired up anyway.

October 10th, 2010 at 1:15 PM | true (Score:1)
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but i don't believe you ever heard lloyd carr respond to any comments made by boston, glenn (or insert any other osu wr) comment.  a head coach should be above that.

October 10th, 2010 at 1:24 PM | To be fair, Hart said that (Score:1)
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To be fair, Hart said that after he had just beaten MSU.  MSU has made its fair share of comments about UM.  I remember Jehuu Caulcrick saying that UM's defense wasn't that good in 2006, and then we beat MSU.  And I bring it up all the time, but Coach D-Bag mocked an amateur athlete.  Karma does not dictate that UM loses after D-Bag says "Pride comes before the fall" immediately afterward.  If it does, than the universe certainly has UM on a short leash.

So basically, if we regret Mike Hart's words, the terrorists win.

Ann Arbor is a classy broad.

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October 10th, 2010 at 1:33 PM | Let us not forget other (Score:1)
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Let us not forget other classic Spartan comments in past years form the Spartan Magazine TV show:

"The better team didn't win"

"Michigan didn't beat us, the wind did"

"The better team doesn't always win"

"Puke University"

The only difference is, Michigan hasn't spent 3 plus years crying over an insult like MSU.

October 10th, 2010 at 1:28 PM | Mike Hart should have kept (Score:1)
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Mike Hart should have kept his mouth shut and stayed above the crap.  However, I have never seen one Spartan say that Caulcrick who started the trashtalk in 2007 should have kept his mouth shut.  The Friday before the game calling UM arrogant and using the Little Brother phrase, screaming remember the moment when Michigan State beat you up by 10 in 2007, and then LITERALLY crying about how unclassy Hart was for retaliating.

It is a 2 way street, just the Spartans took Hart's trashtalk to heart and the Michigan really didn't care about MSU's trashtalk.

October 10th, 2010 at 2:01 PM | You are kind of an idiot (Score:1)
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You are kind of an idiot aren't you?

Don't take that the wrong way - because I'm just stating a fact, even if I could have phrased it better...

October 10th, 2010 at 4:04 PM | As long as you (Score:1)
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Keep your pants on.

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October 10th, 2010 at 4:20 PM | You weren't (Score:1)
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You weren't negged because you stated that fact, but you were unfairly called an idiot due to that statement, and in turn that user was negged. You were negged because you referenced GPA, which is not necessarily a measure of intelligence, if there is any measure of intelligence at all.

Just breaking down the threads I see, like they some philosophy. Peace.

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October 10th, 2010 at 7:03 PM | Nope, not exactly (Score:1)
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I thought my approach was clear enough, but apparently it wasn't. The poster said that Hart was just stating facts, implying that Dantonio should not be be so upset since MSU is in fact our little brother according to his theory of chronological order and universities in the sane state being siblings or something similarly silly.

I replied

 

"You are kind of an idiot aren't you?

Don't take that the wrong way - because I'm just stating a fact, even if I could have phrased it better..."

I did this to counteract his logic - that even if you believe something to be true, you should express it in a more polite fashion. I called him an idiot to prove a point, not just to call him a name - I called him that as an example of poor tact. And it worked beautifully due to his MSU-like reaction (immaturely citing his GPA and major), except, of course, nobody realized what I was doing. 

October 10th, 2010 at 9:11 PM | I see (Score:1)
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I missed your innuendo, but now I see it. You directly referenced that the Mike Hart comment could've been phrased better. Oh yes, the science of blogging.

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October 10th, 2010 at 5:02 PM | LOL!  Brother also implies (Score:1)
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LOL!  Brother also implies some sort of familial arrangement.  So is also a fact that UM and MSU are siblings in the same family?

October 10th, 2010 at 2:48 PM | I don't know.  Woodson talked (Score:1)
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I don't know.  Woodson talked his share of trash after the OSU victories (especially '97).  You can argue that Hart should have been classier, but I don't think it made a big difference.  I still can't believe that Dantonio responded to it, though.  We need to beat him again so we can see more meltdowns from him. 

October 10th, 2010 at 5:30 PM | Exactly.  Hart has become a (Score:1)
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Exactly.  Hart has become a textbook example of hubris.  Hart was 4-0 vs. MSU and called them little brother.  Hart was 0-4 vs. OSU, but so far he's never clarified his thoughts on that stat.

Hart had been making comments like that for a long time, Carr should never have let Mike Hart become the voice of the program.    

You can bet your bottom dollar that his comments will be brought up again during basketball season, and of course again next year before/during/after the football game in East  Lansing.

October 10th, 2010 at 9:22 PM | It's pretty tough for me to (Score:1)
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It's pretty tough for me to blast Hart for his record against OSU given that 1) he had a monster game against them in '06 and 2) he was badly injured two other times against them ('05 and '07) and tried to gut it out but couldn't. 

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