What is the hold up on rescheduling games?
I don't understand why we haven't gotten word on making up any of the five games that Men's basketball missed. I understand that it may be difficult to make the logistics work and that they may not be able to make any of them up, but you'd think by now they'd have figured it out. Either they can't make any of them up, or they know which games are possible to reschedule. Why is this still so up in the air?
February 18th, 2021 at 10:32 AM ^
Because they were waiting for this post. Way to take forever. This is on you, shame!
February 18th, 2021 at 10:33 AM ^
It takes time to find the perfect way to screw Michigan, while also helping o$u.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:54 AM ^
But if history is any indicator, they will execute flawlessly.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:55 AM ^
Yep, the B1G always figures out ways to slam UM as much and hard as possible. So, maybe turnabout is fair play.
UM should play their final regular-schedule games, skip the B1G tournament for "Covid" reasons, and move on to the big dance.
There is no value in entertaining a worthless B1G if they schedule in a manner to hurt our athletes and their academics. The NCAA tournament is the only prize. This is a great year to opt out of as much B1G BS as possible.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:34 AM ^
You're right. They should have included you in their Slack chat while working on the schedule. How insulting to you.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:35 AM ^
Q: Are you actually the guy who used to preach out on the Diag when I was a student in the early 80s?
February 18th, 2021 at 10:40 AM ^
I was wondering the same thing!
February 18th, 2021 at 10:46 AM ^
Hey I got into a heated debate with that fucker in 2002 as a freshman. Assuming it was a homophobic dude with a Bible saying we were all going to hell? Coulda been someone else I suppose.
February 18th, 2021 at 3:14 PM ^
The preacher I'm thinking of was there in 1981-1983. I doubt it was the same guy. Never heard him use any slurs.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:15 AM ^
I think you're talking about Stoney? Not the religious preacher, more the wacky street philosophizer type, right?
February 18th, 2021 at 11:29 AM ^
Uhh, I mean I don't know how you define preacher. He used the Bible to say we were all going to hell. I didn't listen too closely to much else.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:45 PM ^
Uh no. I was long gone by the time you were on campus.
February 18th, 2021 at 4:52 PM ^
Maybe you're thinking of Shakey Jake?
February 18th, 2021 at 9:46 PM ^
I remember preacher Mike. I completely missed the fact that the OP is named preacher Mike, lol.
Also remember Shakey Jake. I was talking about that weird white dude stoney.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:18 PM ^
Yep. Graduated in 92 and I remember preacher Mike and Jake.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:25 AM ^
I think that preacher was part of the Maranatha Campus Ministry. I didn't ever mock him and one time did chat with him, I got the sales pitch, but told him I was one of the few, the proud, the Presbyterians.
I miss sitting on there on the Diag. It was a pleasant place, preacher or no preacher.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:47 PM ^
Those were far more tolerant times and the Diag was quite a fishbowl of ideas. Nowadays he would be shuffled off by the campus Thought Police, classes would be cancelled, and temporary safe spaces would be provided in the basement of the UGLI, with teddy bears and counseling available.
Preacher Mike had his beliefs, but he had a pretty good sense of humor too. He was mostly talking to himself, but people just hung out and mostly ignored him. Sometimes people would challenge him, but it was usually respectful. There were also shanties erected on the Diag at the time as a protest against apartheid. They would get torn down and then someone would put them back up. My point being that there was a very wide range of strong ideas but people were more accepting of each others differences.
February 18th, 2021 at 1:13 PM ^
Mike was his name? I forgot. Rain or shine or snow, he was there.
And you know...we've diminished ourselves with the intolerance.
Edit. Don't forget the crayons.
February 18th, 2021 at 2:59 PM ^
FFS, your BS sanctimony about tolerance is too much and I doubt you were on campus then, let alone ever actually spent any time in the Diag when Preacher Mike was spewing his hate.
So you think we should be "tolerant" of an asshole using a megaphone to scream at women that they were whores and sluts because of how they were dressed or how much makeup they had on? Because that's exactly what Preacher Mike did nearly every single day. Also saw him yell faggot and numerous other homophobic slurs at men he deemed "too girly."
February 18th, 2021 at 3:15 PM ^
KBLOW, what year was this?
February 19th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^
Not the same guy. At all. Maybe you're projecting.
February 18th, 2021 at 1:57 PM ^
No, I thought it would help place my era and also be ironic.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:36 PM ^
Didn't that preacher disappear in the cold winter months? And then reappear in the spring?
February 19th, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^
If it was the early 80s, he would be there rain or shine.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:37 AM ^
Brendan Quinn tweeted that we should get word on Michigan-Illinois by the end of this week. My guess is it'll be announced for the 25th. The MSU game will hopefully be made up at the end of the season, some sort of B2B with MSU. Then the other clear open day would be the 23rd, which matches up well to be the make up game @ NW, but the timeline to get that announced is closing. So hopefully that gets announced soon.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:31 PM ^
Not a fan of 4 games in 7 days especially 2 of them being top 5 opponents. I would rather have @NW on 3/2 and the Illinois could fit in on the 24th.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:56 PM ^
The problem with that is there's an assumption amongst most people that Michigan and MSU are going to be playing potentially B2B on the 6th/7th. So even without that NW on the 2nd gives 4 games in 9 days, and adding the MSU gives 5.
February 18th, 2021 at 1:05 PM ^
Good point, I was focusing on those 2 games that will decide the league...back ending the schedule is not ideal either.
I am holding out hope that the conference tournament is cancelled and we get all regular season games in without getting anyone hurt.
February 18th, 2021 at 2:06 PM ^
This is my hope as well. And seemingly the most logical thing to do. So I have almost no faith in the big10 actually doing it.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:38 AM ^
I'm surprised it hasn't been discussed this way, but doesn't it serve us well for it to still be unstructured? If we finish the scheduled games in pole position, I believe we only need to reschedule Illinois to take the regular season championship (and thus fulfill the requirement that every conference team has been played once). More yet, this would keep us from having to play a frenetic pace of games before the postseason, which we'd expect to bring advantages (avoid disadvantages) in terms of health, regular season outcome, and the intangible of postseason focus.
If, however, we stumble in our currently scheduled games and the win% becomes competitive with Illinois/OSU, it'll be in our interest to play more teams than just Illinois, and we may be able to pick our poison by playing the least opponents of our postponement set.
This of course implies schedule compatibility is not the top issue, and I acknowledge I may be wrong about that. But, still, I like the idea of potentially only needing to play Illinois. And only the current plan (not yet rigidly scheduling the other postponements) keeps that option alive.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:06 AM ^
Further to your point, I thought Howard was clear that he didn't support a piling on of back-to-back games and cramming them in. Hopefully, he's being allowed to object to proposals and that's why it's taking so long.
February 18th, 2021 at 3:22 PM ^
Still not convinced that win % will be the determinant. Brendan Quinn said it likely would be, but no one has said so definitively.
It figures that they'd use it to determine B1G seeding, since you have to come up with a straight hierarchy there. But you don't in the regular season. So, if you're the B1G, why would you?
The blowback you'd get over giving titles to both a 14-4 team and a 15-5 one is minimal. Conversely, naming a sole champion and having the other claimants raise their own unofficial banners and challenge the league's authority is a mess, and an avoidable one.
February 18th, 2021 at 4:09 PM ^
Conversely, naming a sole champion and having the other claimants raise their own unofficial banners and challenge the league's authority is a mess, and an avoidable one.
Dude, this is Big Ten basketball, not Game of Thrones
February 18th, 2021 at 10:41 AM ^
If a 1 loss Michigan team is second in the Big Ten to a team with 4 losses based on number of games played I'm going to lose my mind.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:59 AM ^
I believe someone confirmed that win percentage always dictates the conference champion.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:45 AM ^
I did not see that. I hope you are right.
February 18th, 2021 at 3:40 PM ^
if it's The ohio state penitentiary.... you know who's going to be crowned
February 18th, 2021 at 10:44 AM ^
Getting MSU at home should be an easy weekend double header. Illinois will certainly be plugged in for sometime next week.
IU *could* be a back-to-back in Bloomington if the league/we really wants it - maybe worth it if they can convince NW or PSU to reschedule a game in A2.
Also, since all the teams are going to be in Indy for the tournament anyway, some games could in theory get rescheduled for around then - again, if the rescheduling is *actually* a priority.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:54 AM ^
My guess is Warde and JH will not be pushed around on this. Juwan made it very clear that his number one priority is making sure his guys are not subjected to over-scheduling. He will go to the wall on that.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:51 AM ^
I bet the B1G will be more inclined to accommodate Michigan because they want them to go deep in the NCAA tourney. That's the benefit of being the national title contender.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^
Yeah I think the same. Other teams and the B1G are probably saying hey play us and I assume Michigan is dragging their feet cause they don’t really care to make up the games. They probably feel they’ve proved themselves enough and don’t gain much by trying to get all these games in.
February 18th, 2021 at 1:03 PM ^
I'm not sure other teams are lining up to play us. Would you be that eager to cram a likely loss into your schedule?
Illinois might be the only one that really wants to take us on.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:51 AM ^
If you've ever worked with the business/administration side of any university I think you'd be more surprised there's even an intent to reschedule games. Lots of different stakeholders to satisfy here.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:01 PM ^
That's true, however I imagine the biggest stakeholder group to satisfy are the TV rights holders, who are not going to be too happy about missing games. To the extent cancelled games results in a lower payout to the athletic departments, they care about making up games too. I would be more surprised if they chose not to make up games for the sake of protecting players. It would be one of the first times that the actual athlete stakeholders' needs were placed ahead of the business side.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:07 AM ^
they should have scheduled a psu game for this past tues. that said, the weather may have nixed it anyway.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:14 AM ^
That would have been a tough turnaround, going from Madison to Ann Arbor to State College in three days. I'm glad they didn't make us do that.
February 18th, 2021 at 3:49 PM ^
the could have played it in ann arbor. both games against them have been ppd.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:09 AM ^
One thing that is apparent is that Nebraska's situation is about as different from Michigan's as it could be. Nebraska has no realistic hope of any games beyond one, perhaps if everything goes their way, two games in the Big Ten Tournament. There is no concern for them about being worn down for the post season. As for their opponents, almost nobody is going to pass up the chance for another W on the schedule. Michigan, on the other hand, has a great chance to go far, perhaps even all the way in the NCAA Tournament. They would be foolish to jeopardize that just to cram in a bunch of league games. Also, I suspect at least some of the teams really want no part of adding what would likely be an overwhelmingly lopsided L to their season record.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:12 AM ^
...especially izzo.