CarrIsMyHomeboy

July 15th, 2019 at 6:12 PM ^

Yes, you're right. Vegas lines aren't perfectly predictive of the future. Remind me [...] When was the last time you saw someone argue they are? 

Just take this as a positive heuristic and be done with it. Vegas hadn't spent an offseason favoring Michigan in every regular season game since at least 2003. Until now. Whether that's because the team is stronger than it's been or because the conference environment is weaker, the heuristic is no less positive, and though it'd be foolish to glom on and predict a perfect season, it feels good to see that "10-2 or better" occupies this large swath of the team's probabilities.

CMHCFB

July 15th, 2019 at 11:36 PM ^

Losing a hall of game coach is always tough to overcome.  However, last year was a historically bad year for their Defense and it wasn’t  due to a lack of athletes.  With an entirely new defensive staff except for Larry Johnson, you have to expect a sharp improvement this season. Day ran the O and will likely being the same style, combined with a QB run threat although the passing game will almost have to drop off.   Playing in November means the offense will likely have come together but also a higher chance of a dinged  up QB with a huge drop-off if a backup is needed.  IMO they have a definite edge but we all know what opinions are worth.  

RXwolverine

July 15th, 2019 at 6:18 PM ^

After what happened last season I have zero expectations that we will win. Even if we’re 11-0 going into the game I will not believe we will win the game until I see it. Leave it all on the field and please no shit talking it’s pathetic. On that note this is the year to finally break through. Everything is there to take

MIGHTYMOJO91

July 15th, 2019 at 7:25 PM ^

Not trying to be a a*#hole here but "this is the year to finally break through" comment has run its course on this site. When the clock shows all zeros and UM has more points than the cooler poopers, thats when I will believe it. Other than that I agree with you. 

Arb lover

July 15th, 2019 at 10:40 PM ^

If we finally channel enough bpone the football gods will smile on us. I get the sentiment, really I do. 

It's hard to impartially look back over the last 15 or so, but if I'm being honest, there were the years (all of them) when I hoped we would pull it off, and tried to will that hope into reality, and there were the years when I thought just maybe we would do it. In that regard, over the last late uncomfortableness, it's only 2016 and 2018 where I really thought we *could*.

Best 3-5? 

UMxWolverines

July 16th, 2019 at 3:47 PM ^

How about don't say something stupid if you can't back it up? Harbaugh when he guaranteed the win wasn't baited, he did it on his own. Higdon flat out didn't need to say what he said. It would have been very easy to deflect around it and say "We're going to give them our best shot" (even though they clearly didn't). 

drjaws

July 15th, 2019 at 6:47 PM ^

who?  my best guess is Wiscy & Pedo State  but those are both home games.  so is MSU.

 

they're @ IU, @ NW and @ Nebraska and they can damn near sleepwalk through those games and win by 21 on talent alone.

 

i hope you’re right though

CMHCFB

July 15th, 2019 at 11:43 PM ^

Don’t sleep on Nebraska this year....they will be a much better football team than the last couple of years.  

It would be bad for UM if they lost to PSU (they won’t) the week before UM.  They aren’t dropping back to back games short of a QB injury.  I think it’s likely that both teams come in with 1 loss. 

uminks

July 16th, 2019 at 12:31 AM ^

I don't see who can beat OSU before the Michigan game. I expect OSU to come in undefeated. Michigan may have 1 or 2 losses coming into the game but I hope we can finally beat them at home. If we don't our next best chance would be in 2021 at home!

Perkis-Size Me

July 15th, 2019 at 7:13 PM ^

Sorry but the only way I believe we win that game again is me physically seeing it happen. The clock has to read 00:00 at the end of the 4th quarter and show that Michigan has at least one more point than OSU. Not getting fooled again. Until it happens, here is all I will be wondering about the game.

1) By how many TDs do we get crushed by? Or:

2) In the years that it’s close, how are we going to manage to blow it, shoot ourselves in the foot, and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again?

 

butuka21

July 15th, 2019 at 7:21 PM ^

I was completely defeated after last years game.  I can’t do it anymore.  I am taking my family to do something during the game this year.  I am going to record it, and shut off my phone for 5 hours.  Will check the score when I turn on my phone, and delete the recording if we lose, and watch happily if we won.  I can’t waste a whole day anymore and angrily put up Christmas lights again all day after. My wife told me that game is not healthy for me anymore.  I will believe it when I see it.  Vegas does know what they are doing and this line will move a lot depending on health and record.  I believe Michigan will be better this year than last but I also believe there schedule is not easy and army is no joke.

Haskin’s Bandaid

July 15th, 2019 at 10:22 PM ^

I wish I had that much self control. The Game is unlike any other sporting experience in my eyes, good and bad. 365/yr Michigan fans get belittled due to lack winning in the rivalry and honestly what does the fan base have to show for it? Not much as of recent. It will turn around much like how Michigan vs MSU is turning the corner, but I’m in your boat, how many more years can a fan take the disappointment?  

uminks

July 16th, 2019 at 12:54 AM ^

I would never miss watching Michigan play OSU. I'm always rooting hard for Michigan. I thought we were going to win the 2016 game but a few mistakes let OSU right back in the game. Last year was close at half time then the team fell apart after Shea through the pick 6 in the third quarter. I thought we had a real chance in 2018, and was hoping the D would hold the lead but the could not stop OSU passing game in the 2nd half.  Harbaugh really needs to win this game to push Michigan over the top, otherwise we may just end up being a perennial 8-4 or 9-3 type team.

bdneely4

July 16th, 2019 at 12:29 PM ^

I have actually taken this approach the last two years.  I didn't get emotionally invested in the game to then get angry when the outcome wasn't the way I wanted it.  I had no plays to review in my head and thought of shoulda/coulda/woulda.  It was a really healthy way for me to keep my blood pressure low and just realize it is always just a game.  Depending upon how this season goes, we will see if I take the same approach.  Go Blue!

mitchewr

July 16th, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^

So I'm not the only one who storms out of the house in the 3rd quarter to put up the Christmas lights I've been procrastinating on...interesting lol

My wife has also told me several variations of how this isn't healthy and I need to get control of my Michigan football-induced anger. I won't believe this team can beat OSU until I witness it happen...even then it's fairly likely I'll think I'm hallucinating.

DHughes5218

July 15th, 2019 at 7:42 PM ^

For the first time in a while we should have the advantage at QB but I’m not counting on Meyer retiring as a good thing. Day was the brains behind the offense that dropped 62 on us. Their defense will be better but if Fields goes down, they have no offense. I’m not one of those guys who wants them at full strength. As long as we win, I don’t care who does or doesn’t play.

UM Fan from Sydney

July 15th, 2019 at 9:39 PM ^

Meyer did not retire, nor did Tressel.

 

and yes, I don’t want them at full strength either. Why would anyone? Who gives a damn if they talk shit if we win because if injuries? OSU benefitted from that several times in the past fifteen years. Only thing that people remember and care about is the winner.

Haskin’s Bandaid

July 15th, 2019 at 8:00 PM ^

Just like the great Isaiah Hole states, I cannot pick Michigan to win The Game until they actually win The Game. 

UM Fan from Sydney

July 15th, 2019 at 9:38 PM ^

Let’s be honest: Michigan is favored because Meyer is gone. OSU is still more talented.