Washington Chris Petersen steps down
December 2nd, 2019 at 1:59 PM ^
Wow! Urban to UW? Would make for a more interesting season opener...
/s
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:30 PM ^
That is never happening
Downvote all you want...Urbz to Washington will never happen...I am saying there is Not a chance
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:17 PM ^
so you're telling me there's a chance?
/s
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:40 PM ^
Interesting. Does the absence of a chance actually constitute a chance?
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^
He would take the job to further torment Harbaugh once more, then step down due to rain-induced headaches.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:00 PM ^
Talk about coming out of nowhere
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:00 PM ^
is this one real or another USC thing?
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:00 PM ^
Fire Harbaugh the slumber party champ and hire Peterson!!!
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:03 PM ^
Petersen is retiring.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:07 PM ^
Yeah, because he did so great at Washington. This is a money take.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:08 PM ^
2 championships and a playoff appearance. That would be the definition of “great”
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:16 PM ^
He's a fine coach, but Harbaugh would have done those same things if his conference was a big wet fart. We have to play Ohio State every year. Michigan fans would be in an open revolt if Michigan was 7-5 in a weak conference.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:24 PM ^
Some of the mental gymnastics some of you have is astounding. Man, if only Harbaugh coached in the Pac for comparison.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:32 PM ^
LOL...maybe at a school like Stanford? ?
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^
What mental gymnastics do you think I'm employing? Do you think Pete Carroll's historic USC death machine is the same thing as Clay Helton's clown car? Chip Kelly's perennial juggernaut is the same as Mark Helfrich's 4-8 implosion or Willie Taggart's 7-5 team with a losing conference record? That's what Petersen beat out when he went to the playoffs and conference championship. His Pac 12 championships all culminated in bowl losses. Two of them were to the Big Ten champions.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:52 PM ^
You can’t say “Harbaugh would have done this if” because it’s not a fact and a wishful thinking opinion.
Facts are Harbaugh was in the Pac and didn’t win anything, he’s now at Michigan and hasn’t won anything. So yes Petersen has accomplished more. Keep rearranging that bar all over the place.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:59 PM ^
Again, Petersen is a good coach. I was replying to cube's post because cube simultaneously rants about Harbaugh being terrible while calling Petersen great, when he would be the first person shrieking for Petersen to be fired after going 7-5 if it was his team.
Facts are, this is a message board and most posts are opinions/speculation based on the data we have. The data we have is that the Pac 12 has been awful for almost all of Petersen's tenure. USC and Oregon have been straight up bad. Gushing over Petersen while criticizing Harbaugh when not considering the context is dumb. Harbaugh coached at a historically dreadful program when Oregon and USC simultaneously had their best coaches of all time.
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:30 PM ^
You're being intentionally dense, but just for fun I decided to look up the Pac-12 for the past 3 years (during which Peterson won his 2 conference titles). In 2016 there were...5 teams that finished in the top 25, two in the top 10 (USC and Washington), which Washington having lost to USC. In 2017 (a year Washington went 10-3 and didn't win the conference) 3 teams finished in the top 25 (including UW) and none in the top 10. 2018 the same story; Washington finished 10-4 and two teams finished in the top-25, WSU (10) and UW (13). So that's 3 teams total over 3 years in the final top 10.
In Harbaugh's last 3 years at Michigan, the conference has had 14 teams finish in the top 25, including 7 top-10 finishes.
It's always fun when people complain about bar because it's almost always because they don't spend any time thinking about what it's measuring.
December 2nd, 2019 at 4:00 PM ^
The Valentian grass-is-greener hot takes on this board are way way up after any Michigan loss.
One of those broad strokes is treating all divisions in college football equally. Petersen's main rivals were a gimmicky Wazoo team with no defense, and an Oregon team that had cratered by 2016.
Hire Bronco Mendenhall! At least he won a division!
December 2nd, 2019 at 4:02 PM ^
Let's not pretend all ranked teams have the same worth. Ohio State has been one of the top 3-4 programs since Meyer arrived at Ohio State. That's the obstacle to winning a B1G championship for Michigan. If you don't beat Ohio State, you don't win the Big Ten. Period.
Also, I'm not sure why you think your argument is helping you. You keep including Washington when you're counting ranked teams as if beating Washington is something Washington had to overcome. What I'm seeing is a conference that had one other ranked team in 2017 and one other ranked team in 2018. Neither team even cracked the top 15 SP+. The Pac 12 has been very weak. Here are the final AP rankings that came out after the bowl games, with SP+ added to show the weakness of the conference.
2016-2017: This was a solid season
USC (#3 AP and #8 SP+) - This was a loss
Stanford (#12 AP and #14 SP+)
Colorado (#17 AP and #53 SP+)
Utah (#12 AP and #35 SP+)
2017-2018
USC (#12 AP and #17 SP+) - Never played
Lost to B1G champion in the bowl
2018-2019
Wazzu (#10 AP and #31 SP+)
Lost to B1G champion in the bowl
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:01 PM ^
Not for nothing it was he did it at Washington which isn’t a perennial superpower with a great recruiting base. I’d say Michigan has much more in the way of brand name and facilities. I’m a Jim Harbaugh fan and he’s done well to bring the program back from where it had fallen to. I’d rather be worrying about how they’re going to beat oSU than how are they going to beat Indiana, Purdue, and Illinois.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:48 PM ^
His Final Stanford team finished the regular season 5th with 1 loss @ #2 Oregon and were ranked behind a 2-loss Wisconsin team. It's really not that inconceivable to think a committee would have voted them in.
What I find astounding is how simple-minded some people are when it comes to analyzing performance. You act like every program is on an equal playing field and therefore context doesn't matter.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:54 PM ^
You act like every program is on an equal playing field and therefore context doesn't matter.
Welcome to the MgoBoard!! Where reality is what you make it and things like context, evidence, perspective, and logic don't matter!
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:35 PM ^
Harbaugh was in that conference and didn’t win it. His successor did. If he stayed long enough at Stanford maybe he would have after rebuilding the program.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:35 PM ^
Who was the coach at USC, UCLA, and Oregon during these championships? Stanford has become pre-Harbaugh Stanford again. His biggest competition has been Utah. Give me a break. Who did they really beat?
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:39 PM ^
He had generational talent at QB and RB.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:41 PM ^
Who he recruited to come to a shit-ass program at Stanford.
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
Stanford won 16 games in the five years before Harbaugh, yet he convinced those generational talents to come. Not sure how that's an argument against him?
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:37 PM ^
Cube, this is Michigan. 9-3 and the annual OSU ass beating is considered great around Ann Arbor.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:09 PM ^
He resurrected that program and took them to the playoff. He did do great at Washington.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:29 PM ^
Folks, MikeUM98 (mikey) is not Michigan fan or grad. He's simply a troll.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:31 PM ^
He'll be gone before the day is finished.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:33 PM ^
Why did you feel the need to add grad in there at the end of the first sentence?
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:41 PM ^
Do you seriously believe that knucklehead ever spent one minute in a Michigan classroom, let alone graduate?
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:44 PM ^
Tough guy Dom! Let me guess: you were in the military?! Do you too have sex with small primates like your butt buddy RGard does?
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:53 PM ^
I'm more curious with why he put fan or grad. Why the distinction in this context?
Edit: Probably due to the UM98 at the end of he name... seems to be implying a graduation year. I didn't really pay any attention to the troll sorry.
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:20 PM ^
He has claimed he is a grad. I think it's just a smokescreen for his trolling efforts here. Same with using the Michigan flag for his avatar.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:42 PM ^
Because RGard is an insecure, pretentious loser who has an arranged marriage. He was picked on in school...and a marching band member LMAO!!!
December 2nd, 2019 at 4:50 PM ^
I mean, if you're going to troll, at least dazzle people with a smattering of wit. Where did you learn how to construct insults? 7th grade?
December 2nd, 2019 at 4:52 PM ^
Fuck off ya fucking sparty troll.
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:55 PM ^
Mike, I've read many of your posts which are right up there with the lowest form of pathetic douchebag trolling that ever existed. May you find peace in your life, possibly rethink your priorities maybe, just a bit? God Bless your cotton-picking maize and blue heart.
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:18 PM ^
Uhhh...because he claims he is one and claims he makes donations to the university.
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:20 PM ^
Got it, haven't been paying much attention to the board since the thing. I think I'll go back to not paying attention for a while.
December 2nd, 2019 at 3:29 PM ^
No worries. I just have fun pointing it out to folks here and then reading Mikey's witty ripostes for being called out for his duplicity.
Now he has to google 'ripostes' and 'duplicity' in order to figure out which misogynist, homophobic or transphobic response to use.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:01 PM ^
They named the lake by the stadium the interim coach? That's a bold strategy...
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:32 PM ^
No, they're so excited about their new coach that they named the body of water near the stadium after him.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:02 PM ^
Only 55 years old. Which is fairly young in the coaching world. Will coach through the bowl game but they have already announced that their D coordinator will be their head coach for next year.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:10 PM ^
Makes me think this was in the works for awhile. Sucks for UW. Their recruiting class this year was going to be one of their best.