Warde: ND may be a night game; MSU will definitely NOT be

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on August 14th, 2019 at 4:05 PM

Good stuff from Angelique's podcast. 

“If I was going to guess I would guess (Notre Dame),” Manuel said on the podcast. “We can have one more or we can have none. …If I got a vote we wouldn’t have any.”

Michigan played Michigan State in a night game in Ann Arbor two years ago, but that won’t happen this season because they meet on Nov. 16, which is after the 10th week of the season.

“Both ADs would have to agree (to play it at night), and it’s not even an option,” Manuel said.

HarboSchembaugh

August 14th, 2019 at 6:03 PM ^

I just can't ask these guys to play 11 hard games and finish the season strong when every other team plays bums, and people like Alabama schedule their cupcakes for November when their team needs rest.  Having some relaxing weeks is good for the players. Lets us focus more on OSU in practice and less on gameplanning for MTSU

J.

August 15th, 2019 at 11:41 AM ^

It depends upon what you think the purpose of college sports is.

If the purpose is to win the championship at all costs, then, sure, look for the easiest possible route.

If it's to try to mold young men into leaders, they will learn more from taking the more difficult path.

In 1997, Michigan played Notre Dame, Baylor, and Colorado.  The only quibble I have with the schedule is that there wasn't a road non-conference game.  Baylor might have been a cupcake, but not at the MTSU level.

Now, people are telling me that Michigan has a hard schedule because they play Army?  Colorado was a top 10 team.  And considering that Michigan plays Rutgers every year, well, I'd say they have their cupcake quotient satisfied.

DelhiWolverine

August 14th, 2019 at 8:41 PM ^

I see what you did there. But if we are truly being practical, no team ever got screwed by the committee because they scheduled one or two cupcakes, as long as they also played and beat some legit good teams.  But plenty of teams have been screwed when they chose to schedule too many good non conference teams. 

And finally, your own argument is pretty much contradicted by reality anyways. Army and ND as our other non conf opponents make a tougher slate than most other teams chose to schedule this year. 

LeCheezus

August 14th, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^

What is this program's problems with night games?  If we make the B10 championship or the playoffs are we going to demand the games be played at noon?  Big time games are played in prime time, this isn't 1985.

mGrowOld

August 14th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^

Don't knock 1985.  Probably Bo's best team, finished #2 in the country with only a crappy loss at Iowa (it's always Iowa) keeping them from being undefeated as we beat Notre Dame, shut out MSU and beat Ohio State.

I would love for this year in football to be 1985 all over again.  

snarling wolverine

August 14th, 2019 at 4:37 PM ^

Not at home (in non-monsoon weather, anyway).

Night games are logistically tough for a lot of fans, though.  Not for me personally (I live in town), but for the guys that drive several hours to get here, they can cause a lot of headaches.  Do they get a hotel, or drive in the middle of the night and get  home at 5 in the morning?

snarling wolverine

August 14th, 2019 at 5:35 PM ^

I’d bet other fan bases consider it a pain in the ass too.  Getting a hotel is a big extra expense and turns the game into a 2-day event instead of one.  At a time when fans are being squeezed for every dollar I can understand people being upset about this.  If I were a fan living 3-4 hours away I wouldn’t want to do this multiple times a year.

rob f

August 14th, 2019 at 7:48 PM ^

I tend to agree with you on this, WD, although I don't like the idea of MTSU being a night game.  If the game goes as it should, we'll have a large halftime lead and 25% or more of the crowd will have left by the start of the 2nd half. By the time the 4th quarter starts, the Big House will be over half empty.

And me?  Being one of the die-hards who NEVER leave early, I don't expect to arrive home to SW Michigan until 2am or later.  

Not that I never enjoy night games---but anything more than once a year? NO.

I too suspect that most of those who are the biggest proponents of more frequent night games are those who will be watching from their easy chairs with the remote in one hand and an adult beverage in the other.

panthers5

August 14th, 2019 at 10:21 PM ^

Here is a thought, sell your tickets for the game(s) that you find to be too difficult to attend.

I am betting if UM wins that MSU night game, you probably wouldn't care what time you got home.

Went to Under the Lights II, I live an hour from A2, and knew it would be crazy, so I was an adult and got a hotel room 20 minutes out of A2. I partied until late in the night with friends, than got a cab to the hotel. Still the best game atmosphere I've ever been a part of. 


If it isn't OSU, noon games are a joke.

LeCheezus

August 14th, 2019 at 4:54 PM ^

Call me dumb but I think our questionable performances in night games stems from the fact that we don't play a lot of them.  Since our program (see Warde's comments) schedules as few as possible, essentially the minimum they are required to, we end up with a lot of our night games being on the road, making them even tougher (excepting Rutgers 2016 of course).

CincyBlue

August 14th, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^

On a side note, Michigan travels to Penn State the week before and that game also has a high probability for a night game.   So Michigan could play back to back night games.  

Sione For Prez

August 14th, 2019 at 4:29 PM ^

If it makes you feel any better, I looked at the slate of games for that week and there are no games currently listed as being on Fox national and the rest of the matchups in the Big Ten, Big XII and Pac 12 are pretty meh. Fox isn't getting ACC or SEC games so those don't matter. It is at least plausible Fox could get the Michigan Penn state game.

Also, worth noting the Pac 12 could have 9 or 10am home kickoffs this year under the Big noon kickoff. I believe both ADs would have to approve but it is a possibility.  

mGrowOld

August 14th, 2019 at 4:21 PM ^

Notre Dame under the lights, the sequel, would be pretty cool.

FWIW UTL I was one of the most fun Michigan games I've ever attended.  It's in my personal collection of games I was at that I will always remember.  Still to this day cannot believe the goal line fumble bounced directly back to Denard and that we were able to score a freaking Touchdown getting the ball on our 25 with 20 seconds left on the clock.