Vegas Odds - Mich/ILL & PSU/IOWA

Submitted by UESWolverine on October 7th, 2019 at 10:36 PM

Michigan (-21.5) vs Illinois. Line started at Michigan (-20.5).

PSU (-4.5) at Iowa. Line started at PSU (-3).

I thought Michigan would be favored by about 17.

Anyone else think that PSU line started way too low? 

I was thinking PSU would be favored by 10 (at least by 7).

Also - is it weird that Penn State is getting back-to-back ABC night games - especially when that Florida/LSU game is on ESPN at the same time this week? 

Squad16

October 8th, 2019 at 10:43 AM ^

I think this is one of our only hopes to win in Happy Valley. Franklin's team have a track record of huge let downs after losing a big game (two years in a row now they've had 1 point losses to OSU in very close games they could've won and then followed it up immediately with sloppy losses to MSU teams worse than them). 

LJ

October 8th, 2019 at 1:55 PM ^

Only hopes to win?  Harbaugh has won there before, and has owned PSU other than the 2017 debacle.

I understand the reason for skepticism about this season, but the extent to which people around here suddenly think we'll never be good again is unreal.

Larry Appleton

October 7th, 2019 at 10:46 PM ^

M’s D has given up 1.5ppg over the past two games.  Illinois might crack double-digits.

38-9 good guys.

Pelini's Cat

October 7th, 2019 at 11:22 PM ^

By this math we will be ten point dogs in two weeks. Take away home field, vegas thinks we’re 1 point better than iowa and PSU is 7 points better. Add three points for penn state home field. However that doesn’t take into account that iowa looks worse after last week than they did before so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

NittanyFan

October 8th, 2019 at 12:13 AM ^

Can Iowa score enough points to win?  I figure PSU will get to 20 points, one way or another. 

But that Iowa offense is ------- probably going to have to grind to get 20 of their own.  PSU's defense is young and some players are obviously still learning, but they are fast and the raw talent is apparent.  

The 2017 game was Penn State 21 Iowa 19.  Wadley busted some big plays to get Iowa their 2 TDs.  

Maybe I'm biased, but I would have advised betting PSU at 3.  If it gets to 5 or 6 though - eh.  That's a no play.

J.

October 8th, 2019 at 12:33 AM ^

Night game Kinnick.  I still can't make the bad thoughts go away.

Pitt was competitive with PSU in Happy Valley.  PSU has played nobody else (Idaho, Buffalo, @Maryland, Purdue).  Yes, Pitt is a rivalry game, but Iowa's going to be champing at the bit to get back out there -- they've got to feel that they let an opportunity to win slip away in Ann Arbor last weekend.

I like Iowa straight up.  I see an early money line of about +165, which feels solid to me.  (Michigan's is around -2000; no thanks. :)

NittanyFan

October 8th, 2019 at 12:55 AM ^

If I were to boil my thoughts down to 1 heuristic - it would be this.  If Iowa scores 20+, they win.  If they don't, they lose.  

I never really understand folk who take underdogs ATS when they are 1-6 point dogs.  At that point, get greater reward on the money line.  So if you like Iowa at +4.5, definitely take them S/U up at +165.

Durham Blue

October 8th, 2019 at 12:29 AM ^

Man, I'm sort of licking my chops at Iowa +4.5.  Dreams go to die at Kinnick at night.  Home Nate Stanley >> away Nate Stanley.  And from what I've heard, Iowa's D is pretty good.  We still should've scored at least 20 points on them.

Panther72

October 8th, 2019 at 8:39 AM ^

The Iowa game is going to be fun to watch. I hope its a defensive battle. Go Iowa!  The Illinois game will bring needed experience for the offense. An away game just before the biggest away game left on the schedule is a good chance to take in the crowd noise and a little warm up for PSU. Lets see how much of the Defensive scheme coach Brown uses from last week. And perhaps some playing time from back up QBs would be good.

switch26

October 8th, 2019 at 10:52 AM ^

Penn state needs to beat a team with any kind of a pulse before they can be claimed good.

 

They are still one of the worst teams in the country on third down

lostwages

October 8th, 2019 at 4:52 PM ^

I disagree with this assessment. PSU and PITT is a rivalry game much like MSU & UM, or OSU & UM... doesn't matter how the opposing team is doing in recruiting or previous play in that season, rivalry games are wild cards. That was a good test for PSU, MD and P were not high quality teams but I think PSU proved they can put points on the board.

SCS

October 8th, 2019 at 12:54 PM ^

Why would he take your line when he could just take the Vegas one instead if he really wanted to bet? I never understand posts like these.

lostwages

October 8th, 2019 at 4:43 PM ^

I agree with you PSU by 10pts. I don't think Iowa is as good as they sounded before they got to us. I do think PSU is the real deal and will beat them soundly in their own house.

Actually I think the line on UM vs Ill is low, I'd say more like 21 knowing that they have a horribly D. If we can put 50+ on Rutgers I'd expect similar for Ill, and our defense has improved slightly so yeah, that's where I'm at.

tysmith1128

October 9th, 2019 at 4:15 PM ^

SEC has a contract with CBS, which means they can't play on ABC. Even though it's on ESPN, it will have Fowler/Herby, so PSU/Iowa is the secondary night game this week