U of M Football Camps - Which one for my son?
My son is an 8th grader at Zeeland East here on the west side of the state. He plays QB and shows a lot of potential...strong arm, decent athleticism. We also think he's going to be 6'3" or so. According to Fred Jackson, he projects to be Tom Brady, but with more athleticism.
This fall he'll obviously be a freshman, so my question is what camp is best to send him to? I'll also consider both. In the link provided, it looks like there are two options that seem best to me. 1) the June 7 "All Positions" camp and 2) the June 15 "Skills" camp.
https://camps.mgoblue.com/football/
I'm just looking for info on how the coaches work with actual Quarterbacks, and any information that would be helpful. I always see guys on here talking about getting to camps if you're a recruit. I have four boys, and three of them play soccer. I love football, but have no clue about getting your athlete out there.
Thanks!
February 28th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^
Why not both?
February 27th, 2020 at 9:52 PM ^
Who cares? Your son will never be a relevant athlete. Pick one and stop clogging the board with your personal requests.
February 27th, 2020 at 9:55 PM ^
Wow what a dick lol
February 27th, 2020 at 10:32 PM ^
This what happens when you post a thread looking for advice after a loss.
February 27th, 2020 at 11:24 PM ^
I was wondering if I should take up a winter home in Coachella Valley. I almost put a question mark on that for Syd. So he would know that he didn't know if I was wondering.
February 27th, 2020 at 11:29 PM ^
I'm Ron Burgundy?
February 27th, 2020 at 11:39 PM ^
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal. People know me. I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.
February 28th, 2020 at 6:51 AM ^
How many asshole camps did you attend as a kid?
February 28th, 2020 at 5:01 PM ^
Many, many, many because he is a five-star re-croot!
February 28th, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^
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February 28th, 2020 at 8:59 AM ^
Finally someone who is not afraid to speak the truth. I swear if I had to see one more post about this guys kid I was gonna lose it. Like give it a rest Scoman169. You are like the Maizen of kid-camp posts. How dare you. Some of us are trying to learn from the scathing hot takes of geniuses like Cam. I can’t be bothered with your polite, one-time requests for information that are perfectly acceptable to post. BE LIKE CAM, DUDE. He’s the best.
February 28th, 2020 at 2:24 PM ^
I can only hope I am missing the sarcasm meter here...
February 27th, 2020 at 9:53 PM ^
are you trying to get your son exposure or actual coaching? the michigan camps might be fun, run around at the big house and all, but there's a pretty good chance it will be a crowded mess with little one-on-one coaching.
February 27th, 2020 at 10:04 PM ^
I'd take advice on both. He's at the stage where it's worth getting him out there for coaching and exposure, and see if it goes anywhere. If these Michigan camps are more of a fun, pose-for-a-picture with Harbaugh, it might be worth it for such a low cost. But, as a soon to be freshman, I know you don't want to wait to long time get him in front of people who know and see potential.
February 28th, 2020 at 9:32 AM ^
see jimmybegood's post below. there are some players there who will work with the kids. i have thought of taking some of my sons down to them for the fun of it, but time and distance have intervened.
February 27th, 2020 at 10:06 PM ^
If you want to utilize your time as well as possible, don't send him to a Michigan camp. At least not this year.
Get him signed up for a camp at a DIII or DII school where he will get some attention. You might even send him to a satellite camp at a DIII school where an FBS school happens to be "featured" or participating. There's no need to try to force attention on him when he's only a rising freshman. If he's talented enough in high school, he will get plenty of attention and interest.
Seriously. Right now he (probably) needs to work on his footwork, mechanics, release, reads, etc., and he's not going to get that when Michigan's coaches are keeping their eyes peeled for their next 2022 or 2023 offer, guys who might have already taken varsity snaps as freshmen or sophomores and have film.
February 27th, 2020 at 10:15 PM ^
Thanks a lot Magnus! Always a fan of your info. He is getting training from the school QB coach regarding footwork, reads, etc. and has a good shot at starting for the varsity his sophomore year...just want to make sure I don't miss the next step.
February 28th, 2020 at 4:00 AM ^
Even if the school QB coach is really good there is a benefit from learning different techniques that are used elsewhere. Exposure to different approaches might help him when it's time to pick a college.
February 27th, 2020 at 10:13 PM ^
Decent athleticism in 8th grade isn't what a lot of potential looks like.
February 27th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
Thanks for the info.
February 27th, 2020 at 10:26 PM ^
You're welcome. I'm happy to help you prepare for the inevitable disappointment of your son failing to live out your dream.
February 27th, 2020 at 10:40 PM ^
Damn that’s an inordinate amount of projecting there bud
February 27th, 2020 at 11:05 PM ^
Never played football...like watching it. My dream is for my son to become a man who loves other people, plain and simple. Everything else falls into place after that. Sports are fun. I like watching him play. He's good for his age. That is all.
February 27th, 2020 at 11:08 PM ^
Yeah, don't worry about a couple of people who can't handle a team losing basketball games and instead lashes out at everyone indiscriminately.
Good luck to your son; to echo what Magnus said my guess is a smaller college will have more hands-on teaching, and realistically the quality he'd get from there would be more than sufficient for this early on in his career.
February 28th, 2020 at 1:46 PM ^
Yeah, guys like that are the kind of “fans” Isaiah Hole was referring to in his article.
February 28th, 2020 at 2:30 PM ^
No need to defend your origin at all. You are being a responsible loving father to your son. For that no one here should come down on you.
As with anything, start with a small spoon without crushing the tongue and then expand beyond the pound size steak field.
February 28th, 2020 at 4:08 AM ^
me and you can sign up for a film class. you can be the projector
February 28th, 2020 at 12:01 AM ^
Shouldn't you be ?ing on cereal somewhere?
February 27th, 2020 at 10:31 PM ^
What the fuck is wrong with people in this thread? If you don't have any advice, find something else to do.
February 27th, 2020 at 11:22 PM ^
Yeah, this is truly bizarre. People aching a trip to Bolivia or pornhub.com.
February 27th, 2020 at 11:34 PM ^
At least Pornhub.com has better takes than this thread.
February 28th, 2020 at 9:31 AM ^
The negativity is just bizarre.
February 27th, 2020 at 11:22 PM ^
The town of Dick, Michigan just called.
They said that MGoUsers Cam & JPC will get booted out of town immediately if they ever visit.
February 28th, 2020 at 7:40 AM ^
Or they are dicking around over who becomes mayor.
February 28th, 2020 at 2:28 AM ^
Scoman169,
I live in VA, and my son is a freshman (lineman who played varsity), started going to various camps last year too. In addition to the traditional camps, Rivals has a free camp series at various stops (closest to you is in the toilet bowl region- Columbus), and these free camps will at least get your son a profile & some measurables.
https://www.rivalscampseries.com/
February 28th, 2020 at 5:03 AM ^
If you’re looking to send the soccer players to camps I suggest IU in Bloomington. Great tradition and great all around coaching.
https://indianasoccercamp.com/summer-overnight-camp-registration-open/
February 28th, 2020 at 6:36 AM ^
@Foote1982...thanks for the info!
@Helloheisman...I sent my oldest to MSU and WMU soccer camps, and they were really good. I will keep IU in mind for future camps. Thanks!
February 28th, 2020 at 8:20 AM ^
Many years ago I attended MSU’s soccer camp and it was a lot of “fun” and social activities. For a serious soccer player like myself I felt it was a waste of time. Maybe things change over time. The IU camp is very technical and they are going to work on fundamentals all day. If you weren’t aware IU is like the Duke of College Soccer.
February 28th, 2020 at 6:45 AM ^
I’ve been to a few U of M camps so here’s a few thoughts. I talked with many parents who said Michigan’s was one the best camps they’d been to, both in how it was run and the quality of instruction. There are roughly 15 to 20 coaches and staffers running the various stations and drills, but the majority of the one-on-one is run by the 30 to 40 players. So Gary, Bredeson, Uche, Hudson, DPJ, etc are teaching your kid techniques and most of them take it very seriously. Besides U of M coaches, I’ve seen CMU, Kent State, Toledo, Adrian coaches helping out so they are circling names on their roster. I’ve also seen parents talking with Dudek and Magee about the preferred walk-on route... it’s a way to keep playing and a Mchigan degree to boot. If you want a celebrity endorsement, Ken Griffey Jr. said it was one of the best camps he’d been to (his older son went to Arizona I think) as we were walking out of Glick two years ago.
February 28th, 2020 at 11:17 AM ^
Don’t have a son and I can’t tell you which one is better. But I want to go against some of the negative comments here and say take your son to one of these camps. It doesn’t sound like you’re expecting him to walk away with an offer. But going to the camp will still probably be fun and he will meet some coaches and other Michigan HS players. You always hear how recruits seems to know a bunch of people in their class that go to schools all over the country. Camps are how they make those connections.
February 28th, 2020 at 12:49 PM ^
Really, development camp for an incoming Freshman?? Ok, sign him up, go have fun and make a memory or 2. If thinking coach will be out handing out future offers, good luck and keep dreaming.
February 28th, 2020 at 1:12 PM ^
Pretty sure my post spelled it out pretty clearly. I coach other travel sports, and I tell the parents to let them have fun, and if they show signs of being pretty good, take the next step and find them some better coaching and training. If they keep getting better, take it to the next step.
That said, I'm really hoping my 9th grader walks away with a Michigan offer from a $60 camp.
February 28th, 2020 at 2:26 PM ^
He is too young to get recruited, but definitely attend camps for skill development. Also if you have summer 7-on-7 travel teams, join one of those as local scouts will attend those regional competitions.
If he produces well in high school and shows excellent on film, he will get invited to scouting camps (like Rivals, Nike, UA, etc.). But for now, attend college camps for the skill development during the summer so he is ready to compete freshman year.
February 28th, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^
If you don’t mind traveling, I would highly recommend the Jeff Trickey Camp. The instruction they receive from a technique & leadership standpoint is first class.
February 28th, 2020 at 5:36 PM ^
My son just finished his high school career as QB. To brag a bit, he won a NorCal CCS II title, was a team MVP and won first team all league CCS honors. He has D2/3 offers but wants to go to large D1 school for college, and hasn't decided if he is going to try and walk on once he chooses where to go. Luckily he's a very good student, so he will have some nice options.
On the camps front, the big school camps are fun, but a waste of time for QB development IMO. He got much better instruction from QB academy camps (like NFA QB Academy, he attended a couple of those). He had a QB coach for his team and head coach that was a QB, but the other academies will expose him to different technique tweaks in arm position and throwing motion, release and footwork. It also helped him as he started as a pro style offense under center his first 2 years and then last 2 years they migrated to shot gun/spread look. The QB camps worked on all different styles of offense, so when they changed, he was already repped and prepared for the transition.
Just another set up eyes with differing QB technique opinions helped him decide what was best for him. He was a very efficient QB his senior year and it definitely helped his team win a title. The other thing that was beneficial was a QB coach in NorCal held Sunday camps with local QBs and their team WR's. He got tons of reps throwing to his 2 top WR's in the spring/summer with a lot of work spent looking off coverages. Anything you can do to get your son in these type of environments will be beneficial to his growth and development.
Good luck!
February 29th, 2020 at 5:03 PM ^
Thanks Blue.
February 28th, 2020 at 6:44 PM ^
Surprised Harbaugh has not sent him a scholarship offer! If he turns out to be a better QB than Brady, I hope he'll be our QB starter in 2025 or 2026!