Technical Foul on Izzo - why not our ball??
Probably not worthy of its own thread, but we were wondering this at home. Why no possession after Izzo's T? DeJulius was fouled on the shot and got his 2 free throws. I believe Wagner shot the technical foul shots. Anyone know the rule? I've played a lot of ball and know the rules pretty well...but never seen that.
January 5th, 2020 at 5:05 PM ^
Do technicals even award possession? I remember distinctly instances in the past where MSU was on offense, Izzo screamed at a ref and got a tech, we shot free throws, and then MSU inbounded from the sideline to resume their possession
To answer your question, I think because we had possession, even though we were already shooting free throws, you don't get an extra possession
January 5th, 2020 at 5:08 PM ^
We were shooting free throws.
January 5th, 2020 at 5:18 PM ^
Is that a rule that you know for sure? If shooting free throws, you are not awarded possession?
I've never noticed it, but that must be the only situation where possession is not awarded if that's the rule.
January 5th, 2020 at 5:29 PM ^
After a technical foul, the other team gets 2 free throws and then the game is resumed at the point of interruption. For Howard's technical foul, MSU was bringing the ball up the court. So MSU shot the tech free throws and then got the ball out of bounds to continue their possession. For Izzo's technical foul, UM was about to shoot free throws. So they shot the tech free throws and then proceeded with the free throws from the regular foul.
January 5th, 2020 at 5:49 PM ^
This is correct. Techs are considered outside of the game. I think the rule included possession in the NBA in the past but I prefer the college rule since possession adds a reward that a team on offense doesn't receive.
January 5th, 2020 at 5:59 PM ^
I don't think the NBA ever made it a change of possession. It was just the technical FT.
But college used to. That's why after C-Webb's timeout, UNC not only shot the two FTs but got possession.
January 6th, 2020 at 2:21 PM ^
doh. I meant College it was actually the same play I was thinking of
January 5th, 2020 at 6:08 PM ^
This explains it.
NBA for as long as I can remember was 1 free throw and the game just picks up where it left off.
College must've changed the rule, and it may have been a while ago, but I never realized it. Crazy!
Thanks guys!
January 5th, 2020 at 7:31 PM ^
Bringing up a painful incident, but . . . . Remember the NC game against UNC, when--with time running out--Chris Webber had the ball and called a time out that the good guys didn't have? It was a technical foul, with the result that UNC was awarded 2 foul shouts and possession. Which doesn't seem to fit with the very reasonable explanations others have offered here.
Edit: Sorry; didn't see snarling wolverine's comment before I posted.
January 5th, 2020 at 8:53 PM ^
If today's rule had been in place then. we would have been inbounding with 11 seconds down 75-71. We would have still had a slim chance.
January 5th, 2020 at 7:46 PM ^
I'm just stunned they gave Izzo a tech. Half the time the refs look intimidated by the guy
January 5th, 2020 at 7:51 PM ^
“Half”?
At least 90% of the time it looks like he could pull their striped shirt over their head like a hockey jersey before going Bob Probert on them and then they’d apologize and immediately tag Michigan with three tickytack fouls to make it up to him.
January 6th, 2020 at 9:17 AM ^
Refs are scared to death on tiny Tom, friggin joke. Even TV announcers were commenting on fouls "nowhere near the basket". Wagner almost had his nose broken 5 feet from a ref, clean play. Big reason staae has trouble in the tourney is that Izzo doesn't own the refs.
January 5th, 2020 at 8:42 PM ^
I was glad they Teed him up. He goes angry elf Miles Finch at least once a game. Glad to see the refs are not letting him get away with his shenanigans anymore. He had the same thing happen in the Duke game earlier in the year.
Also, I think his son Steve who entered the game at the end may be shorter than his dad. How does a 5'7" kid like that even sniff the court at the DI level? My 5 year old son might be able to take him in one on one right now.
January 5th, 2020 at 11:50 PM ^
His dad is the coach. Also, his middle name is Mateen, so he has that going for him.
January 6th, 2020 at 7:30 AM ^
The younger Izzo has been compared to Muggsy Bogues. By no one.
January 6th, 2020 at 9:59 AM ^
I mean it's literally because Izzo is his Dad. He averaged less than 5 minutes and 2pts per game a small school so it's not like normal walk-ons who are typically star-ish level in high school:
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/steven-izzo/p3tL2c5oEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm
But more power to him, when your Dad has an all-consuming career like that, it's got to be cool to to spend 20+ hours a week with him.
January 6th, 2020 at 12:09 PM ^
Good for him I guess, but I hope no legit walk-on candidate was denied a spot because of him.