stop freaking out about the buzzer beater loss, please
Michigan was supposed to lose this game. Everyone in the entire country - including the writers of this blog and all of its participants - knows that OSU's basketball team is superior to Michigan's. Yes, it's frustrating, but it's true.
What would a Michigan victory today have meant in the grand scheme of things? All it would have given us is a victory over OSU, and we'd likely lose tomorrow. This was not a game that was going to be the difference between a Final Four appearance and a giant disappointment.
So if you want to rail on Beilein for his late-game decisions, fine. If you want to lament our season, fine.
But let's not lose perspective and fly off the handle. Today's outcome was representative of what Michigan's team has shown all year. If Beilein didn't deserve to be fired before today, he doesn't deserve to be fired now. If Michigan wasn't going to do anything in the NCAA tourney before today, a victory in this game would not have propelled the team to glory in the coming weeks.
This is the type of result a rational fan should have expected all along. Let's not get bent out of shape.
supposed to lose.
We had a chance to win.
In the last three years we haven't had a whole lot to get excited about.
We need anything we can get.
like are you kidding me WOW SERIOUSLY IT'S FUCKING OK BECAUSE WE were suppose to lose. Thanks I feel better now, unreal just unreal
boo fucking hoo.
come off it.
bitch crying about it. Just bummed.
Sorry, I love my team. They lost a close one.
I'm not getting irrational and calling for "FIRE HIM!" ...
Just bummed.
double-check the reply hierarchy; that was not directed at you.
I own season tickets and what just happened is unacceptable. I am sick of people making excuses.
unacceptableI stopped reading here.
I laughed out loud at this...but then thought - isn't this what all this is about? Some people can accept the loss (e.g., me, Magnus, other non-fans) while others (i.e., real fans) can't yet accept it (thus, "unacceptable") because they can't make sense of it. They have to blame someone (e.g., Belein, Douglas, God), after which they can start to make sense of it, and only then can they accept it...perhaps?
Countless variables in a game, and one guy/decision gets blamed for a loss. That, to me, is unacceptable.
Only to have Team B go on a ridiculous run to close the half. Team A and B fight it out in the second half. Team A fights all the way back, to have star player hit a sick jumper to take the lead. Euphoria is only seconds away for Team A.... Only to be RIPPED away because DUMB COACH ON team A decides Not to pressure the ball on the baseline and have 4 of his players on the other side of the court. Team B star player COMES back to the ball catches it joggs a couple feet shoots long 3 unguarded SWISH. Your right not on the coach... he should take no blame
Gee I would really really like to ask Manny Harris and Deshawn that question
You're right. Michigan didn't miss any shots during the game, didn't turn the ball over, etc. It's all Beilein/Douglass' fault.
Suck it up, man. Michigan played a good game. I'm terribly bummed that they lost, but calling for one guy's head for this loss (granted, the final coaching decision wasn't a good one).
How many ill-advised, bad shots did Manny jack up this season? I'm sure the coach was to blame for that, too... right?
In case you hadn't noticed, Michigan's MO this season is getting an early lead, then blowing it. Give them credit for coming back.
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Hmmm I am so happy that our next power forward used to be a volleyball player :) Yeah
Ex Volleyball player to play Power Forward in the BIG TEN, arguably the most Physical conference in all of college basketball= FAIL!!!!!
Love his recruiting, Hey John you going to recruit Detroit.. NO= FAIL
Hey John.. Stu Douglass and Zach Novak are so athletic, glad we stole them away from Valpo??? love watching them play= FAIL
Sorry I am ranting, I never liked the hire nor will I ever.
Neg if you like I don't care my guts have already been ripped out today
You think he isn't trying to recruit Detroit? Do you realize that the basketball power in this state -- MSU -- owns Detroit? UM has to start winning games first, then the recruits will come. The system needs to be proven to work here before the top players come. Until then, Beilein is forced to run this system with the best players he can get.
It WILL happen.
I was just about to post in another thread that I needed to go home and remind myself that when I wake up tomorrow, Michigan being out of the tourney at that time was what I expected. So nothing's changed. Or so I try and remind myself.
But god damn, man. I mean, god damn.
THANK YOU!
People are giving in to irrationality way too much.
You are.
You're not my real dad!
you'll do what he says
All of you! I'm gonna run away forever!
Don't make me pull over.
True, going in, UM was not supposed to win. And, no way should Beilen be fired or considered to be fired because of this game.
But, that was a terrible way to lose. And if you are just going to say, "well we were supposed to lose anyway", why watch or care in the first place.
You should definitely care.
But some reactions go over the edge.
Magnus, sometimes I just need a shoulder to cry on.
I agree, there's way too much teeth gnashing going on around here lately, but your post was over the top in a different way.
You're right. It was such a horrible thing for me to say "Let's not let this day devolve into calling for coaches' heads, etc."
How can I ever forgive myself?
This thread is full of the kind of comments that I was saying should NOT happen.
"You think we shouldn't go out and get drunk off our asses because of this and call for people to be fired?!?! Well, fuck you, douchebag!"
Yep. That totally makes sense.
Let's not let this day devolve into calling for coaches' heads, etc.I would have agreed with you 100%. However, this is not how I interpret your post. Your angst appears to be directed at anyone who expressed frustration with the game, for whatever reason.
In the words of Steve Coogan from "In the Loop":
"I'm fucking zen."
I have no angst whatsoever.
Anyway, that's the point of my entire fourth paragraph - if Beilein didn't deserve to be fired before today, don't start calling for his head now. Etc.
know why he should be fired, because if you take Manny and Deshawn off this team and slap a bunch of Bowling Green jerseys on the rest of the team you wouldn't be able to tell who played for who PERIOD
If you saw a serviceable center, you would know they played for Bowling Green.
This win would have given us a second highlight to a dismal sports year. The football win over Notre Dame is the only positive I can think of among the never ending dong punches and blowout losses. I know I needed this win to have something to cheer about this season.
now there's nothing else to get our hopes down about this season...its only up and up from here
would you ever tempt fate by saying that?
...jinxed all the fall sports...
And to the OP - if we had lost by 20 you'd see 1, maybe 2 threads about how poorly we played but a general feeling of "eh well." This team has always had potential - you don't lose 2 walk-on point guards from a tourney team and not have potential. We saw today what we expected from this team all year long - Peedi playing well, Manny being "Manny" and one of our 3 point specialists being special. The thing that's frustrating is that, in all my years of watching basketball, I've NEVER, EVER (seriously) seen a worse defensive play call at the end of the game. If Turner was harassed, shot off one foot and had to weave his way through traffic I'd just hang my head but this was the equivalent of playing 2 Safeties, 7 LBs and 2 DL to defend a Hail Mary and not even dropping everyone back to the endzone!
Once Turner caught the ball there was no way he was going to have time to pass to anyone for anything resembling a decent shot and you only need to have man on man for that - we had 1 guy out there on 3 OSU guys - inexcusable. Even if you want to drop the guy back who's on the inbound that still gives you two guys at half court.
It's just frustrating when your coach puts you in a situation to fail rather than succeed after all the great things that had happened for the last 39 mins and 58 seconds. I feel the worst for the players who can't really say "Hey, coach, that's retarded" when it quite obviously is...
I'm thinking of something a little sooner.... as in tonight.... as in first game of a huge hockey series with MSU.
A friggin' Ayn Rand Society open meeting?
Still, good post though. As I said in another post where somebody said this is the worst he's ever felt as a Michigan fan, we need perspective. This was an underachieving, injury riddled basketball team that was down 10 in the second half to a Top 5 team playing for a possible #1 seed in the Big Dance, we came back, got close and loss a heartbreaker. Jamiemac still wins his money as I'm sure he took the 9.5 points, and this is still no where near as devastating a loss as The Horror, The Horror's Evil Twin Brother the following week, Kordell Stewart, Ricky Foggie in 86, etc etc.
Some of us care, even if we aren't expected to win. It's not thinking irrationally, it's having passion for your team and school.
Edit: I read some responses and I agree that some people go overboard....today still sucked though.
"rational fan"? I am not a rational fan. I'm not even sure that's possible.
Rational and emotional are separated by a wide margin. You can't expect everyone to share your calm resolve after such a disappointment.
This is the kind of loss that hurts the most. More than anything. That 'I almost touched the stars but slipped on the top step' loss.
It's the kind where your heart is hammering in your chest so loudly that the person next to you can hear it, and then suddenly stops dead, in a single instant.
The way it was supposed to be? No, no it's not. We were supposed to get blown out. That's fine. A man with no legs wouldn't feel bad to lose in a foot race. It's when he starts running on his hands and falls a half second before he crosses the line that really hurts.
Everything you say is based on rational thought.
I would argue fandom is very seldom rooted in rationality. I can't turn off how I feel about this team, and losing like that--when with 2 seconds left I was oh-so-sure we'd win--seriously breaks my heart.
I think I'm allowed to be MGoEmo at least for today.
But we are MICHIGAN. We are the LEADERS AND BEST. This is UNACCEPTABLE. Rich Rodriguez should be FIRED because he DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE #1 JERSEY!!!! BEILEIN HATES RICKY STANZI'S KITTEN AND MOTHER!!!!!
UNACCEPTGABIOJQEWFA;DFAV;LE!!!!!!!!!1!!!!1!!!!!!11!!
Thats exactly what I was thinking, +1
EXACTLY.
Not only THAT, but it's GOOD to realize THAT RANDOM caps in your POST always make your OUTRAGE far MORE PRONOUNCED.
no sugarcoat
just my EPINION.
.....Women are here today gone tomorrow. Up one pantleg down the other.
This is how I should approach this situation? Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke?
No one has seriously said "well, I thought Beilein should keep his job, but after that last play, FIRE HIM". Not anyone anyone is taking seriously.
What happens before, or the mindset going into the game doesn't matter. You have a chance to win, and you SHOULD win it at the end, win it. Saying the team was sucky anyway doesn't change that.
For a change the team DIDN'T play sucky. And rather than "they can't hit a shot, but they're there", they were in a position to win, and Beilein's coaching let them down.
If you're saying, yeah, we knew from this season Beilein makes questionable coaching decisions in the clutch...then I say what it does is not change his situation into fire him Monday, but is a negative mark on the positive and negative ledger. Because we're rapidly approaching a time when we WILL have to weigh our options.
If only the economy had events such as this to give clear-cut indication that it has, in fact, botomed.
Though most of us never left the marketplace, it's time to invest in Michigan, we're now on the way up.
I was thinking that I wished sports had indicators and data to know when they bottomed out, like the economy does.