supposed to lose.
We had a chance to win.
In the last three years we haven't had a whole lot to get excited about.
We need anything we can get.
supposed to lose.
We had a chance to win.
In the last three years we haven't had a whole lot to get excited about.
We need anything we can get.
like are you kidding me WOW SERIOUSLY IT'S FUCKING OK BECAUSE WE were suppose to lose. Thanks I feel better now, unreal just unreal
boo fucking hoo.
come off it.
bitch crying about it. Just bummed.
Sorry, I love my team. They lost a close one.
I'm not getting irrational and calling for "FIRE HIM!" ...
double-check the reply hierarchy; that was not directed at you.
I own season tickets and what just happened is unacceptable. I am sick of people making excuses.
I stopped reading here.
I laughed out loud at this...but then thought - isn't this what all this is about? Some people can accept the loss (e.g., me, Magnus, other non-fans) while others (i.e., real fans) can't yet accept it (thus, "unacceptable") because they can't make sense of it. They have to blame someone (e.g., Belein, Douglas, God), after which they can start to make sense of it, and only then can they accept it...perhaps?
Countless variables in a game, and one guy/decision gets blamed for a loss. That, to me, is unacceptable.
Only to have Team B go on a ridiculous run to close the half. Team A and B fight it out in the second half. Team A fights all the way back, to have star player hit a sick jumper to take the lead. Euphoria is only seconds away for Team A.... Only to be RIPPED away because DUMB COACH ON team A decides Not to pressure the ball on the baseline and have 4 of his players on the other side of the court. Team B star player COMES back to the ball catches it joggs a couple feet shoots long 3 unguarded SWISH. Your right not on the coach... he should take no blame
Gee I would really really like to ask Manny Harris and Deshawn that question
You're right. Michigan didn't miss any shots during the game, didn't turn the ball over, etc. It's all Beilein/Douglass' fault.
Suck it up, man. Michigan played a good game. I'm terribly bummed that they lost, but calling for one guy's head for this loss (granted, the final coaching decision wasn't a good one).
How many ill-advised, bad shots did Manny jack up this season? I'm sure the coach was to blame for that, too... right?
In case you hadn't noticed, Michigan's MO this season is getting an early lead, then blowing it. Give them credit for coming back.
Hmmm I am so happy that our next power forward used to be a volleyball player :) Yeah
Ex Volleyball player to play Power Forward in the BIG TEN, arguably the most Physical conference in all of college basketball= FAIL!!!!!
Love his recruiting, Hey John you going to recruit Detroit.. NO= FAIL
Hey John.. Stu Douglass and Zach Novak are so athletic, glad we stole them away from Valpo??? love watching them play= FAIL
Sorry I am ranting, I never liked the hire nor will I ever.
Neg if you like I don't care my guts have already been ripped out today
You think he isn't trying to recruit Detroit? Do you realize that the basketball power in this state -- MSU -- owns Detroit? UM has to start winning games first, then the recruits will come. The system needs to be proven to work here before the top players come. Until then, Beilein is forced to run this system with the best players he can get.
It WILL happen.
I was just about to post in another thread that I needed to go home and remind myself that when I wake up tomorrow, Michigan being out of the tourney at that time was what I expected. So nothing's changed. Or so I try and remind myself.
But god damn, man. I mean, god damn.
You're not my real dad!
you'll do what he says
All of you! I'm gonna run away forever!
Don't make me pull over.
True, going in, UM was not supposed to win. And, no way should Beilen be fired or considered to be fired because of this game.
But, that was a terrible way to lose. And if you are just going to say, "well we were supposed to lose anyway", why watch or care in the first place.
You should definitely care.
But some reactions go over the edge.
Magnus, sometimes I just need a shoulder to cry on.
I agree, there's way too much teeth gnashing going on around here lately, but your post was over the top in a different way.
You're right. It was such a horrible thing for me to say "Let's not let this day devolve into calling for coaches' heads, etc."
How can I ever forgive myself?
This thread is full of the kind of comments that I was saying should NOT happen.
"You think we shouldn't go out and get drunk off our asses because of this and call for people to be fired?!?! Well, fuck you, douchebag!"
Yep. That totally makes sense.
Let's not let this day devolve into calling for coaches' heads, etc.
I would have agreed with you 100%.
However, this is not how I interpret your post.
Your angst appears to be directed at anyone who expressed frustration with the game, for whatever reason.
In the words of Steve Coogan from "In the Loop":
"I'm fucking zen."
I have no angst whatsoever.
Anyway, that's the point of my entire fourth paragraph - if Beilein didn't deserve to be fired before today, don't start calling for his head now. Etc.
know why he should be fired, because if you take Manny and Deshawn off this team and slap a bunch of Bowling Green jerseys on the rest of the team you wouldn't be able to tell who played for who PERIOD
If you saw a serviceable center, you would know they played for Bowling Green.
This win would have given us a second highlight to a dismal sports year. The football win over Notre Dame is the only positive I can think of among the never ending dong punches and blowout losses. I know I needed this win to have something to cheer about this season.
now there's nothing else to get our hopes down about this season...its only up and up from here
would you ever tempt fate by saying that?
...jinxed all the fall sports...
And to the OP - if we had lost by 20 you'd see 1, maybe 2 threads about how poorly we played but a general feeling of "eh well." This team has always had potential - you don't lose 2 walk-on point guards from a tourney team and not have potential. We saw today what we expected from this team all year long - Peedi playing well, Manny being "Manny" and one of our 3 point specialists being special. The thing that's frustrating is that, in all my years of watching basketball, I've NEVER, EVER (seriously) seen a worse defensive play call at the end of the game. If Turner was harassed, shot off one foot and had to weave his way through traffic I'd just hang my head but this was the equivalent of playing 2 Safeties, 7 LBs and 2 DL to defend a Hail Mary and not even dropping everyone back to the endzone!
Once Turner caught the ball there was no way he was going to have time to pass to anyone for anything resembling a decent shot and you only need to have man on man for that - we had 1 guy out there on 3 OSU guys - inexcusable. Even if you want to drop the guy back who's on the inbound that still gives you two guys at half court.
It's just frustrating when your coach puts you in a situation to fail rather than succeed after all the great things that had happened for the last 39 mins and 58 seconds. I feel the worst for the players who can't really say "Hey, coach, that's retarded" when it quite obviously is...
I'm thinking of something a little sooner.... as in tonight.... as in first game of a huge hockey series with MSU.
A friggin' Ayn Rand Society open meeting?
Still, good post though. As I said in another post where somebody said this is the worst he's ever felt as a Michigan fan, we need perspective. This was an underachieving, injury riddled basketball team that was down 10 in the second half to a Top 5 team playing for a possible #1 seed in the Big Dance, we came back, got close and loss a heartbreaker. Jamiemac still wins his money as I'm sure he took the 9.5 points, and this is still no where near as devastating a loss as The Horror, The Horror's Evil Twin Brother the following week, Kordell Stewart, Ricky Foggie in 86, etc etc.
Some of us care, even if we aren't expected to win. It's not thinking irrationally, it's having passion for your team and school.
Edit: I read some responses and I agree that some people go overboard....today still sucked though.
"rational fan"? I am not a rational fan. I'm not even sure that's possible.
Rational and emotional are separated by a wide margin. You can't expect everyone to share your calm resolve after such a disappointment.
This is the kind of loss that hurts the most. More than anything. That 'I almost touched the stars but slipped on the top step' loss.
It's the kind where your heart is hammering in your chest so loudly that the person next to you can hear it, and then suddenly stops dead, in a single instant.
The way it was supposed to be? No, no it's not. We were supposed to get blown out. That's fine. A man with no legs wouldn't feel bad to lose in a foot race. It's when he starts running on his hands and falls a half second before he crosses the line that really hurts.
Everything you say is based on rational thought.
I would argue fandom is very seldom rooted in rationality. I can't turn off how I feel about this team, and losing like that--when with 2 seconds left I was oh-so-sure we'd win--seriously breaks my heart.
I think I'm allowed to be MGoEmo at least for today.
But we are MICHIGAN. We are the LEADERS AND BEST. This is UNACCEPTABLE. Rich Rodriguez should be FIRED because he DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE #1 JERSEY!!!! BEILEIN HATES RICKY STANZI'S KITTEN AND MOTHER!!!!!
Not only THAT, but it's GOOD to realize THAT RANDOM caps in your POST always make your OUTRAGE far MORE PRONOUNCED.
.....Women are here today gone tomorrow. Up one pantleg down the other.
This is how I should approach this situation? Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke?
No one has seriously said "well, I thought Beilein should keep his job, but after that last play, FIRE HIM". Not anyone anyone is taking seriously.
What happens before, or the mindset going into the game doesn't matter. You have a chance to win, and you SHOULD win it at the end, win it. Saying the team was sucky anyway doesn't change that.
For a change the team DIDN'T play sucky. And rather than "they can't hit a shot, but they're there", they were in a position to win, and Beilein's coaching let them down.
If you're saying, yeah, we knew from this season Beilein makes questionable coaching decisions in the clutch...then I say what it does is not change his situation into fire him Monday, but is a negative mark on the positive and negative ledger. Because we're rapidly approaching a time when we WILL have to weigh our options.
If only the economy had events such as this to give clear-cut indication that it has, in fact, botomed.
Though most of us never left the marketplace, it's time to invest in Michigan, we're now on the way up.
I was thinking that I wished sports had indicators and data to know when they bottomed out, like the economy does.
Is this a national fan blog?
We have every right to get upset about this loss. It sucks, flat-out. It would've been a great win almost exclusively because "Michigan was supposed to lose this game". Who the fuck are you Magnus to tell an entire population of UofM supporters that we're above some irrational reaction to a gut wrenching loss? Especially after an entire year of getting shat on by all-comers. If you've honestly gotten to the point where your initial, inherent emotional reaction to that outcome was "eh well...we were supposed to lose anyway" then I sincerely feel sorry for you as a person. You've lost the ability to enjoy / lose yourself in one of the most exhilarating and enjoyable American past times...being a sports fan.
If you're just trying to be the cool guy with the voice of reason less than an hour after UofM got it's heart stomped on, then I have no problem saying fuck you...save it.
...and this is an example of why I posted this thread in the first place.
Thanks for the "fuck you" comment. It was very necessary.
Cool story bro.
Was what I said irrational? Wrong?
I'm upset as a fan of UofM basketball and a supporter of the kids who played their asses off to come up just short of beating the #7 team in the country that happens to be our biggest rival. Am I calling for Beilien's head? No.
The bottom line is, w/o the hope of something extraordinary happening, like winning this game, and maybe the next, and maybe the next, what fun is it being a fan?
Have you really become so desensitized? At what point in your life did you decide always being cold, calculated and rational was the way to go? This is why I sincerely feel bad for you...the highs/lows of being a die hard fan of any sports team are what make it great. With your approach you're just a casual observer....nothing else.
"With your approach you're just a casual observer....nothing else."
You're absolutely, 100% correct. I'm just a casual observer. I've earned 15,000-some points on here and I write my own Michigan football blog because I'm just a casual observer.
Imagine how many points I'd have if I were an actual Michigan fan!
So now you're claiming dedication to UofM blogs via the internet is a test of fandom?
Do I even need to respond to that?
No, I'm saying you're being ridiculous. I spend a lot of (too much) time on here, and I write a blog. Do you really, honestly, truly think that I'm not a Michigan fan through and through?
Look man, we can go back and forth about this all day. I'm not being ridiculous. Your post came off with a tone of "I'm too cool to care about these things". Judging by the general response I wasn't the only one that took it that way. Also, judging by your general inclination to ALWAYS play this role I don't think it was wrong to read that into your post.
My point is that you care enough about UofM to spend every waking hour scouring this blog and writing your own, yet you ridicule people for caring just as much. It comes down your quite transparent stance that you are a fan of UofM in the "right-way" and everyone else is in the "wrong-way". It's basically your self-appointed, self-important role as the smug "voice of reason" and judging watchdog of the irrational that bugs the shit out of me.
If your point was limited to "take a breath and think before you call for Beilien's head", then great, I agree with you. I didn't take it that way.
"If your point was limited to "take a breath and think before you call for Beilien's head", then great, I agree with you. I didn't take it that way."
This was my point.
Regardless, my post wasn't deserving of a "fuck you" and being called a "douchebag" a half dozen times.
My point was that I hoped the board wouldn't dissolve into [look up and down this thread] and, unfortunately, it has.
"Regardless, my post wasn't deserving of a "fuck you" and being called a "douchebag" a half dozen times."
Ugh you started this thread to get attention for yourself, whether you recognize it or not.
It's extremely impressive that you know my motivations for starting a thread, and yet we've never even met.
It was extremely douchey to respond to attacks on my fandom with evidence that the person is wrong.
I love it when people call others "douchebags" on the internet.
Any other random ad hominem attacks you'd like to toss my way in your frustration?
Welcome to the internet Magnus, it's good to know you're finally learning the rules.
By the way, I actually like touchthebanner, I'm just pissed at you now. You're still in my head as someone who I would send a christmas card to with pictures of my children on it, if I had them and a wife and it was 10 years down the road.
The way things have gone since October, a win, especially against OSU would've been great and lifted our spirits, if nothing else, for at least the next 24 hours.
There's no such thing as a good loss, no matter how far the b-ball and f-ball teams fall.
And save the misplaced anger
Well...I'm not really angry. My tone was intended to be dismissive.
Not really misplaced either. I too am bothered when "fans" first reactions to losses are to point fingers, call for the coach's head, or berate athletes. I also try to keep sports in perspective. But what gets me even more are the supposed "fans" who play the "I'm too cool to care" role. It's like they surround themselves with people who are passionate about something in order to belittle the passionate reactions when they occur. The best part is, if Magnus doesn't care, why is he on the site posting like a mad man just after this loss?
Answer: because he is always here posting like a mad man...that is a discussion for another day.
Thank God Mangus is here to tell us all how to feel.
[Kidding... but not really]
Magnus, no need to be the "cool" douche on the site. If you're not pissed out of your mind about this loss, you're not a fan of UM athletics.
You're right. I'm not a fan of UM athletics.
I'm a troll.
Jeez...I was wondering how long it would take somebody to catch on.
Shit, I'm not upset, so now I have to sell all my gear, season tickets, and find a new team.
I think rationality is a poorly understood construct - I usually can't tell rational behavior from emotional behavior - emotions can be a rational psychological or physiological response borne from evolutionary tendencies.
But I do know dumb when I see it - and uniqenam's statement is just dumb. Which is probably evolutionary on his part.
1) My response was made in full-douche mode, and mostly at Magnus.
2) Spoken like a true psych major :)
He's just a different kind of UM fan - a realist. He doesn't live in the fairy tale world where everything that happens in our athletics causes him to meltdown and contemplate suicide. There was nothing wrong with what he said and if you read it right then A) if we won it was a bonus and good for us but B) if we lost well then it wasn't going to be a surprise. But let me guess you're the fan that was singing Beilein's praises last year when we made the tourney but is now calling for his head cause we lose on a buzzer beater to a potential #1 seed in the tournament? Get a grip man.
You raise a good point.
No one here is contemplating suicide. They're venting. It's normal. It's expected. Telling people to settle down is futile and, frankly, a waste of time.
Listen to yourself. You sound like an Ohio State fan.
Worst dong punch since November 21st
To answer your question, "What would a Michigan victory today have meant in the grand scheme of things?"
1) A victory over a hated rival, who may get a #1 seed, who has the #1 or #2 player in the country
2) A chance for us to feel a little good about ourselves as Michigan fans after a REALLY disappointing year.
3) A chance for the b-ball players, who seemed to crack under the weight of expectations this year, to feel good. Read all the quotes from the DetNews article about how they were more relaxed now than at any time this year. A win here could have given them a chance to realize that next year they need to just "play ball", not worry about other's Top 25 expectations. With the loss, they have to deal with yet another close loss with a huge, "What If"
4) As noted by you, it was unlikely they'd win the necessary two more games to get in the NCAAs. However, beating OSU (with Turner) would have been the most unlikely win of the tourney for them, so who's to say?
You're right that if they'd lost by eight, I wouldn't be nearly as disappointed, as it would have been just another loss in a season that had five to six more of them then I thought they would. But the win was THERE for the taking - and instead of taking it, they (directed by Coach B, who I generally like) just passively sat back and let the other team dictate. That's not bad luck; that's poor performance.
I agree with everything you said.
And while it would have felt good to win, I just don't think calling for Beilein's head is necessary.
(And to someone who asked above, yes, I have seen people calling for his job due to his late-game decisions.)
For the few posters (and I haven't seen more than a couple, but perhaps there have been more) who think he should be fired, that is crazy. He needs to be given at least two more years and as far as I've seen, most (upset) posters reflect that sentiment.
However, one big thing I've relied on when he was hired is how glowingly other coaches talking about how well he "knows the game" and "teaches." To have him completely f'up the last two seconds of a game that was there to be won makes me wonder how smart he really is. While this isn't "take the wind" Marty Mornhenwig dumb, it is really inexplicable. I am eagerly awaiting his post-game comments b/c I literally can't understand his strategy (or lack thereof).
One trip to the "Big Dance" and a preseason top 15 ranking led to heightened expectations especially since "all the team lost was two walk-ons".
As much as last season was a thrill this season has been a disaster and for it to come to an end with the worst defensive 2.2 second strategy I have ever seen is a shame. This is probably the first time in my life I have seen a coach allow the other teams top dog (EDIT: how could I forget about Kalin at the buzzer, but that was a different situation) a free path to a game winner. It was a difficult shot, but it would have been much more difficult if they had put any pressure on Turner.
I really feel for the players because they played the best game they have all season and it still ended with a L.
As fan(atic)s, isn't this what we do? We celebrate phenomenal wins and we languish gut wrenching losses.
People have some frustrations that they need to get out and this is how some choose to release those frustrations.
Seriously, if this behavior bothers you, you don't go to fan blogs after a loss like this. When I logged in, I saw exactly what I expected to see.
Yeah, I expected it. That doesn't mean it's necessary.
I expect that somebody somewhere is going to cheat on the SAT tomorrow morning. That doesn't mean it's okay.
One of my coworker's husband is employed at a local factory whose parent company recently decided that they could no longer sustain the local shop. 500 jobs will be lost. I imagine that things were pretty somber the day they heard that news.
I don't much care for people moping around but instead of avoiding the shop, I should have went there and told people to suck it up because there's nothing they can do about it...
Yeah..... your analogy was ridiculous too.
Think about it now. We're all here on this blag wasting massive amounts of time following the program we love. Many of us even neglect work to follow this shit. I mean, come on man.
You don't hear me spouting off a bunch of b.s. about this loss, but I was pretty devastated by it. I think most of what people have posted here is ok, given the circumstances this year. I don't subscribe to the idea that JB should be fired over this, but I can sympathize those who do.
Exactly my point. This is what fan(atics) do. They bitch hardcore about losses they have no control over, because they love the team. If Magnus thinks his sanctimonious ass is better than that, he's welcome to it, but no need to patronize us for our love of UM.
The too cool for school crowd doesn't care about the results, what the fuck is the point of being on a Michigan Sports Fan Blog?? With a bunch of people who CARE about losing. Who don't like seeing gut-wrenching loses. Who worry about bad decisions that cost us games. What's the point, it's only a game...
Does that hold true for football, and hockey, and good teams, as well as bad teams? The metric for how much the games "matter" in "real world" terms doesn't change if the team is losing a game for the National Championship, or ending a bad season.
But I guess they wouldn't care if we were really good either. So what's the point of even being here?
I "wouldn't care if we were really good either."
I'm completely devoid of emotion, and I don't care about Michigan athletics.
Remember what I said about being rational? This is what I'm talking about.
I hope you're just as rational when we win a big game. Be sure and be the first to say eh, don't get so excited.
Isn't the point of being a "fan" to react emotionally to the success and failures of the team you support?
You aren't one of the blue hairs sitting in the vicinity of section 15, row 60 are you?
You haven't wrapped your head around a Sport Blog. Or sports even. Why do you follow both?
Well, you do admit you were in a sport that there were no actual fans of. So maybe you're foreign to the concept.
Did a basketball player steal your girlfriend when you were in school? Where's all the hostility coming from?
I think everyone is reading you pretty clearly today...
Actually, I like football better. But I want Michigan to win in all sports. Unlike some. But your "I'm saying whatever you say right back at your" argument is doing your Michigan education proud.
(And if we compared academic and athletic connections to U-M...it would be kinda funny...but not in the way you think...).
This conversation is awesome.
"My dad can beat up your dad!"
"My grass is greener than yours."
"Hey, bet my car's faster than yours!"
"MY CV IS LAUGHABLY BETTER THAN YOURS!"
Actually, where can you find a comment claiming I don't care about Olympic sports, and it is not just something you've made up? I've actually said stuff to the contrary.
But it really doesn't matter, because I would never tell someone who had a kid in it, or is an alumni athlete, or just likes the sport that they shouldn't feel bad that we just lost a competition in swimming or whatever. I may not care about it as much as they do, but I wouldn't berate their feelings on it and say "eh, what you crying about...it's only gymnastics". They care too.
And you do know the idea of college is to graduate at sometime, right?
Since you have suggested that you can tell who could and could not get accepted to the U of M based on the content of their entries in this blog, where would you place someone who offered the following:
I want them win, but honestly, my day is relatively unaffected.
You tell me...
Is there a riot somewhere? Are people burning things??
I don't give a rat's ass what was supposed to happen. Michigan nearly overcame those odds today, but failed to in a spectacularly heart-wrenching fashion.
I'm going to sit here at work and lick my wounds until such time as I can get home and deaden them with booze. If that's irrational behavior for an avid sports fan, then brand me with a big I on my forehead.
What would a Michigan victory today have meant in the grand scheme of things? All it would have given us is a victory over OSU,
And that's all that matters.
and we'd likely lose tomorrow.
But at least we'd have a shot. Most schools, including a number in the top 25, don't stand a chance at reaching the Final 4. So why play the game at all?
If OSU beat us by a comfortable margin, then you have a point. But that was a gut-punching, shitty way to lose, and we'll probably be reminded of it for a while. It is completely irrational to call for Beilein's head; he's a great coach who made a terrible call. But it's perfectly rational to feel heartbroken with the way the game ended.
"But it's perfectly rational to feel heartbroken with the way the game ended."
That's totally fine. Feeling heartbroken is within the realm of rationality. That's not what I'm referring to when I say "freaking out."
I'm talking about calling for people's heads, saying good riddance to certain players, etc.
I don't think anyone started calling for Beilein's head, or if it did happen it was only a few sundry fans, not the majority feeling of the board.
If people hadn't called for his head, I wouldn't have posted this.
But I agree that it's not everyone. Obviously.
Wow, you're way overblowing how much of that has happened to make your point.
Most are what a horrible job coaching on that last play, with a small segment of hey, that's the best you could do on that play, he hit a big shot, with maybe a TINY amount of FIRE THE COACH NOW ARRGGGGH. (With a smattering of compare coach x to coach y).
Look, you have no problem with the game, that's fine. But don't tell people with rational reactions to a brutal loss that they're all overreacting.
"Wow, you're way overblowing how much of that has happened to make your point."
Actually, no, I'm not. I never said "Everyone's doing this" or "Most of you are doing this." I said that it's happening.
And I have seen these things, both on here and on The Fort (many of whom probably visit here as well).
If only a small minority are doing it? To hear yourself talk? Because you're never going to change that tiny percentage. Pissing in the wind.
I don't to be rude, but that's not very clear in your post. Calling for people's heads is irrational, but it hasn't happened to a large extent and those who have will most likely be marginalized. Your post sounds like "Get over it, we were supposed to lose anyway," than "Let's not lose perspective about what little it means for Beilein's career," which apparently is what you meant to say. I think you may need to clarify that distinction a bit and explain that you're speaking with regard to general fan reaction and not just the MGoBoard. I have few doubts about you Magnus, but I think you may have missed on this one.
Eh, that's okay. A negbang feels nice once in awhile.
I'll leave it how it is. If people want to get pissed at a post that says "Let's not freak out," then amending it at this point isn't going to calm them down.
Your subject line specifically references people freaking out about the buzzer beater.
Are you now suggesting that your entire lecture was to be directed at the people berating Beilein and the players and not the people belly aching about the last second kick in the groin?
But truly, if it had said, "no one call for Beilein's firing after just one more loss", I think he would have gotten a lot of "uh huh's".
No Tears of Infinite Sadness please...
The part that is frustrating is that it shouldn't have happened. I just will never understand why you dont put someone on the ball or if your not going to do that double team fucking turner. Or heres a novel approach, pick them up and pressure them. I'm not calling for his head either but I do think that next year is a big year for him. Another season like this one and a change may have to be made.
I thought one rule had become universal from the '92 Duke-Kentucky regional final(aka Hill to Laettner). That is you have a man covering the inbound pass in the situations. No clear pass in. Guess not.
...this is one of them.
my head freakin' hurts. My whole body took a metabolic plunge into an unhealthy state. I know the team wasn't that good this year, that we weren't expected to win this game, but it's our school, it's our team, we root for them, right? I am a serious rooter, I guess.
Totally irrational on your part.
but I'm sure we all get a little like this for one game or another. Then you add in that the game is against your biggest rival, a rival who the past few years seems unbeatable in just about any sport they complete in. While we mire in...whatever it is we are mired in. I can't stand being considered below OSU and for us to come back in that game against the highly ranked Buckeyes and their big Ten player of the year, to finally be playing like champions and to have the game 'won' with 2.2 seconds left then to have that happen?? I don't know, irrationnal might be rational when it comes to rooting for your alma mater (or however you came to feel that Michigan is your school), in that kind of situation.
The thing is we had a chance and we blew it at the end by not picking up Turner. That has been the most crushing game this year right beside the Purdue football game we should have won too.
wow you guys sound like ndnation in here, really need to calm down
It would be irrational to be completely rational in this case.
As someone who did this during the football season just let them freak out. They want to call themselves fans, they want to say that "we are the leaders and the best" and we are above all of the other schools in the big ten. Our fans are educated and know things about sports blah blah blah.
Irrationality is a human emotion and after a crushing loss like this whether it happens to Michigan Michigan state or some shitty school the reaction is going to be the same.
Michigan fans like to say that we are the leaders and the best, well I'd like most of you to fucking act like it.
Maybe, just maybe, the next time something bad happens to Michigan, somebody who read this thread will think twice about going overboard with their reactions.
One can only hope.
I could not agree more with the OP...well said sir!
Calmer now. Able to post.
Darn It! Darn it to Heck!!