Per his Twitter account. Hey, at least its not Ohio State.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
I remember my first rough fit moment on the internet as well. I was 12.
Not worst case scenario, but damn close
It's not like we'll play against him/them ever again.
Why is it good that he didn't go to Ohio? I wish he went to Ohio so we could beat him every year. Or is everyone scared of Ohio these days?
Ok, so what are our chances?
Well according to your post, you believe we have 100% chance of beating OSU every year. I contend that's highly improbable.... it's possible, but improbable. Hence, don't be that guy.
Wonderfully ironic. You tell me not to be that guy, only to be that guy yourself. Maybe one day I will be that guy, although -18406 MGoPoints will be a challenge to attain...
and quite soon you could be tied with his point total.
This is awful to have to add, but SINCE 2003 I think we've only beaten ohio once! Twice COUNTING 2003 tho! ;-)
On a brighter note, we did win we did win like 18-19 times from 1976-2000. GOOD quarter century, that!
What makes me confident? Well I'm a Michigan fan and I am very optimistic of Coach Nuss vs Borges. Now I'm not ready to put money down on Michigan to win four years in a row, but as of right now I wouldn't be surprised (mind you, I feel like the Borges fire alone was worth at least 1-2 wins a year). But the main point is that I'm not "scared" when Ohio gets a top recruit, I would love it if Ohio and Michigan were the top 2 schools every year. And finally, if being "that guy" is someone who has faith in this Michigan football teams direction, then I'd rather be that than you.
The "that guy" tag isn't about optimisim, it's about calling out other fans for somehow being scared or cowardly because their outlooks are based on the last 10-15 years of UM-OSU match-ups. "That guy" calls out other fans for being the wrong kind of fans.
I'll be "that guy".
Regardless of who they recruit, or what their record's been against us over the last ten years, I still think we're gonna kick their ass
Urban Meyer's record kinda fell off after the initial years of success. I'm betting the same happens at Ohio. Meanwhile, Michigan and coming back, filling the underclasses with 4 and 5 stars.
I'm scared of Ohio.
I am also scared.
It is a rather scary place. Especially when you are driving a below average speed in Michigan yet flying past everyone in ohio. I was also the only car around with just a rear license plate. For me, that was terrifying.
Ohioans have a history of committing crimes and trying to escape in reverse. Having a license plate on the front has seriously reduced the number although there are some Ohioans who still do this as family tradition and habit not fully understanding the error of their ways.
I cannot stand how slow people drive in Ohio.
They're notorious for driving under the speed limit in the fast lane.
for going 3 MPH over. No tickets though, once they barely gave me a warning. I can't count how many trips I've made to Ohio where the only cars to pass me on the way home had Michigan plates.
Right... So you believe this could/would never happen? I've been pulled over for not using a right turn signal at a stop sign. I didn't get a ticket, and I'm 99% sure the cop was using it as an excuse to make stops because of crime in the area (which I'm actually fine with, as long as I don't get a BS ticket).
"There had to be another reason that guy got yanked."
That is my point, but I'm sure the cop used that as his/her excuse.
"actually a more serious infraction"
I'm silly, that is interesting... So how much more serious of an infraction is it? A little? Or a lot?
From what I can find on the googles
Failure to signal = $80 fine + 2 points
0-5 mph over = $125 fine + 0 points (seems odd that's it no points but google never lies amirite?)
Assuming the 0 points thing is correct I would gladly take a $45 fine over 2 points based solely on the insurance hit.
So I would say failure to signal is marginally more serious?
I think his point though was "likelihood to get pulled over". I've never heard of someone getting pulled over for going 3 over but I've heard of plenty of people getting pulled over for failure to signal.
Thank you SWPro for actually adding something to the conversation. But I will restate my point, I believe the cop used the minor traffic violation (barely speeding or not signaling to turn right at a stop sign) as an excuse to pull someone over, since in my opinion, I don't see either as anything close to being pulled over for.
You ever wonder why no one there drives even 5 MPH over on the freeways? It's not because the cops set a minimum of 7 MPH over to stop you. It's an eerie feeling to drive 100+ miles barely over the speed limit and not have a single vehicle pass. Then cross the border and it's suddenly back to normal.
I live in Toledo oh and I can tell you there are zip codes you want to set your cruise on the dot if you don't want to see those flashing lights. Not on the freeway though. I do 10 over consistently without any worries.
I absolutely believe this. One of my teammates was late for a legion baseball game, and when he finally showed up the coach was pissed. What got him off the hook? The ticket he had for going 37mph in a 35 zone in Buchtel, OH. He had to pass that puppy around the dugout, as none of us could believe it. The husband of one of my former coworkers in Charleston, WV was livid because he (he is a state highway patrolman in WV, by the way) got a ticket for 60 in a 55 while taking his kids to their softball tournament in OH. When he said to the officer, "Are you serious? 60 in a 55?" The officer replied something to the effect of, "See, you knew the speed limit all along." So her husband says, "Come on, I'm a SHP officer in WV." The cop handed him the ticket and said, "Then take your ass back to West Virginia." My parents live in SE Ohio. Exceeding the speed limit is a bad idea.
I've been driving 10 over the speed limit for my entire life in Ohio and I've never been pulled over once.
A talented player going to a team on the schedule is never a good thing.
The most foregone conclusion of all time
I get being interested in ND, but I can't imagine wanting to play for Kelly. Or letting my kid play for Kelly. I guess it takes all kinds. Good luck to Shaun.
I bet the kids who won 3 national championships under him at Grand Valley would understand why.
Winning a championship isn't everything, just ask Rashad McCants.
I would contact athletic support.
Notre Dame once hired a coach who won four national championships at his level.
His name was Gerry Faust.
That turned out well.
and winning national titles at the collegiate level. Then, of course, we mustn't forget his success at CMU and Cinncinnati. Kelly's track record before ND is excellent.
At ND it has been mediocre other than 2012.
It's a depth chart decision. UofM is his 1st choice and ND was his 2nd. I love the kids game but he was 3rd best DB in the class with an already loaded young roster. It's too bad but not a crusher.
ND was always his first choice, but ND didn't offer until late.
Seems to me that we pulled a young man who happened to recently win MVP in the MI/OH All-Star game away from PSU in this manner. Just like McDowell's recruitment should not have contained all the drama brought about by his parents, I don't necessarily like to lose top level talent to a rival - which won't be the case w/the Irish - for who knows how long, but when all is said and done, I want it to be the player's choice. We definitely have had and all will have a large number of h.s. AAs that grew up loving the maize and blue, that when kids chose where they really want to play we more than hold our own. Now if we could just get back to winning 10-11 games consistently we would get even more because of the "Cool" factor.
Or because you see him yelling on TV like every single football coach since the beginning of the game and you think you know him on a personal level?
Do you have any idea what Bo would have looked like with constant HD close-ups throughout the game?
Besta luck with Purple Face.
Do we know why exactly he decided to make the switch? Committed to early? Negative recruiting?
It was because ND scored 3 more points than us against 'Bama a couple years ago.
They lost 42-14. We lost 41-14. By the immutable laws of the transitive property, we were slightly better than the national runner-up.
Oh, shit, you're right. I thought they scored 17 for some reason.
It must be because of scenic South Bend, IN.
Did OSU cancel his planned visit or did he, for example.
Fuck Notre Dame.
That is all.
whatever! I still believe the writing was on the wall with the depth and talent we do have! Atl east it isnt Ohio!
Ate chicken for dinner last night.
Looking forward to eating some more in September.
you're going to wait until September to eat yardbird again? hmm... more for me all summer then... I can think of more ways to prepare chicken than bubba could think of to prepare shrimp...
No "check all that apply?"
These stories are becoming the norm.
"I keep my word. 100% committed."
Blah blah blah
This shouldn't surprise anyone.
Not until they sign on the dotted line and put on the uniform are they truly "committed".
sometimes not even then. (boren...)
I know that nobody will ever say they chose another school because of the depth chart, but...
He didn't really fit the big physical corners we have been going after anyways... I wasn't excited about his signing but best of luck to him
luck to him. Won't likely see him these next four years, so whatever
all salty about this, but what's the point when I can get....
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I'm appalled by anyone on here who's getting worked up over a decommit switching to a rival. If playing early is important to him damn right Michigan wasn't the right choice. Since he committed here Brandon Watson started looking likely to start post-Countess/Taylor if Lewis/Stribling/Peppers don't already have those down. Meanwhile ND switched to a more aggressive man defense that better fits Crawford's skillset.
He was fair about the decision, giving the Michigan coaches ample time to replace him. Wish him best of luck and be thankful that 17-year-olds aren't forced to honor meaningless decisions they made at 16.
by anyone who's appalled by anyone on here who's getting worked up over anything!
So you're saying to use logic, common sense, and human decency even when that results in a negative outcome for UM? That...doesn't make sense to me.
I would assume that the OP doesn't see it as a negative since Crawford wouldn't start over Watson (assumption from OP) and by the time Crawford sees the field for ND, we won't be on their schedule.
I think he's saying you should tweet at him.
Although I don't like it, I'm not too worked up about it. It's always nice to have a quality player and you never want to lose them to a rival, but I'd rather have Taylor if given the choice and am excited about UM's backfield potential.
But, wouldn't Crawford have to wait it out for guys like Butler, Luke, and Russell to move on before he would likely land a starting job at CB too? I mean those guys are the same year as Stribs & Lewis. Plus, I always hear guys like other talented guys to come to the same school and aren't afraid of competition because there will be competition everywhere. Ty Isaac wasn't scared off by Green, Webber doesn't seem scared off by Isaac, etc. And, it obviously doesn't bother Garrett Taylor (btw too many Taylors). I get that every guy is different, but I personally disagree with your logic unless Crawford is saying that himself. I just think for whatever reason he likes or feels more comfortable at ND which makes your head scratch but to each his own. I hope he's happy and that UM has more success than ND does, cheers to both parties.
You missed the one I deleted.
That's an awfully low standard for being appalled.
He's actually a really good player - instinctual, aggressive and plays really well in the open field. It's a loss to be sure - as may Harris and Campbell be. But let's not deride a kid for making the right decision for himself. Are we going to be there for him if he can't crack the starting line up but could have shined somewhere else where opportunity abounds?
It's easy to be a fan and throw around words like honor and commitment but this isn't marriage and he's not in the military. There isn't the threat of prison or losing half your assets as a back stop. He plays football at a high level and he wants visibility with a style of play that will get him to the pros. Because I have never worn a football helmet I can't judge his metrics or reasoning. But if someone is willing to risk permanent injury for my bemusement like a roman gladiator, then he gets to pick the armor.
Being a fan doesn't give people carte blanche to be douches to minors. Let's have some class, wish him the best and give someone else the golden ticket. I want someone to value all I've been given but I don't begrudge their desire to find that gift a place where they believe they will have a better chance to accept it.
If you read this blog and this is where your heart will truly be happy, then congrats Shaun on what I hope will turn out to be the best decision FOR YOU! Because that is all that matters.
Thanks for the perspective Seth
If only this actually matched reality.
since he won't play against us.
Plus, the hate I feel towards OSU (or even MSU) just isn't there for Notre Dame.
This one is really weird to me. Ah well wish him luck.
Recruiting is such a "feel" thing for kids. If you walk into a place and fall in love with it, change your mind, etc. then more power to ya. Besides we are stacked on the back end (or so it seems on paper). He might have sensed a better opportunity to play earlier at ND.
Shaun, have a great career! However, to hell with Notre Dame!
We won't play against him?
Im happy the kid gets to play where he wants. At the same time why was he committed to UM at all? Seemed like he always wanted Notre Dame and still had plenty of time to get an offer when he committed. After all these crazy early commits and decommits there should be some rule on early verbals being silent or noncommittal offers til a certain point, such as summer before senior year. That's not a slight at the athletes either, committing early puts an unnecessary pressure on them while they narrow down their choice of school.
change of DC. Old DC didn't think he was warranted one...enter new one who thought differently.
As much as I hate to think of UM as anyones 2nd choice lets be real. UM will not be everyones first choice. Since the committment is only verbal why not commit until ND offers?
I dislike a decommit as much as the next guy but its part of the game.
Good luck Shaun. Hope you have a productive and injury free career.
Completely ignored so far in this thread was that he said on Twitter it was a Fathers Day gift commiting today. So... guessing there were other influences in this decision? He'll never play vs the Maize & Blue, which is... weird! Thanks ND, and go to Hell!
To the rest of you, Happy Dad's Day!
So I take it he doesn't like his father?
Oh well...his loss, enjoy the wonderful college town of South Be...sorry can't even say that with a straight face. #ThoseWhoStay
So like all the other commits there, where will he transfer to in 18 months?
When they offered, he had to reconsider. When Garrett verbaled, he really reconsidered. Wonder if Kelly had to pinky swear that he wouldn't recruit any more DBs?
Meh, best of luck to him.
Kelly has recruited more, signed one earlier this week. Or, atleast, took his verbal committment.
So you're telling me that high school aged kids change their minds?!? Good luck young man.
Got the offer he really wanted and was able to commit on Father Day,making it totally family affair.
Free choice to look and go wherever he wants. That's what the recruiting process entails. Hope he has a productive and injury free career. We won't ever play against him so happy trails.
I think the best thing for me as a fan to do now is to reach out to him on twitter to express my feelings to him
to turn off your electronic device
I'm pretty sure that comment was sarcastic.
Turn on your sense of humor:
Hahaha...that one is for the win! Epic comment
Or you could say nothing. Why people feel the need to wish EVERYBODY luck I'll never know.
Crawford did talk to the Plain Dealer about his commitment to Notre Dame - the short writeup is HERE. A portion of the quote:
"I feel Notre Dame will make me the best person and player possible. Notre Dame is a prestigious university that my athleticism has gotten me in to. However, I will rely on my intelligence and hard work in the class room to succeed at Notre Dame."
To be fair, of course, a lot of kids have chosen Michigan through the years for reasons which could be worded similarly, so we shouldn't fault Crawford for his decision really. Best of luck to him.
Not to bebad, but good luck to him, I think he'll be the real deal.
Meh, it was obvious he wasn't going to be a Wolverine for a long time, and I've come to terms with it. It's like when the sleazy girl who's dating your friend finally leaves him for another dude. You're a little sad but you all saw it coming anyways.
I cannot believe he would spurn the glorious "Michigan Brand"
Have fun living in dorms for 4 years
I'll catch one of his Notre Dame at Wake Forest games on our off week.
I'm okay with losing him, I don't care where he went. I'm not a fan of undersized corners, although I do believe he is a hell of a player.
The kid changed his mind about a decision that means a whole lot more to his future than ours. Whatever. I hope he has a wonderful life and a terrible college football career.
Classy. I think you should leave and look for a life.
You're taking the news well /s
Good for him. I hope he finds elite success but that his team finds none. No hard feelings.
Eh, best not to get caught up on the whims of teenagers.
Hoke has shown us that he is great at pulling in excellent recruiting classes. Losing one recruit out of an average of 20 or so a year isn't going to really hurt anything. It isn't always true in basketball, but in football, one recruit isn't bigger than the rest of the class.
This class will be just fine without Shaun Crawford. As a human being, I wish Crawford luck. As a football fan, I don't really care what he does, as long as he never, ever helps ND beat Michigan or affects Michigan's chances for a playoff berth in any way.
South Bend is a sh*thole. Have a great day.
Well, he has about as much chance of staying at ND as he does of being eaten by a purple-faced flesh eating monster.