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Sending Little Brother to Rose Bowl
It won't be an issue when they don't beat PSU.
PSU has really turned it up the seconed half of the season.
Also possible last game for JoPa.
isn't every game a possible last game for JoPa?
"Depends". ; )
JoePa could really "Ensure" PSU of a good bowl by winning this one.
he already announced he is staying after this year
In all likelihood, Wisconsin will win at home next week vs wisconsin
I saw that also, wondered if this was like a fall game scrimmage or something.
If Wisconsin and Ohio State win but Michigan State loses: Ohio State would earn the automatic berth based on its Oct. 16 win against Ohio State.
In other news, the Prime Minister of Sweden visited Washington today, and my tiny little nipples went to France.
Wisconsin is playing Northwestern, not Wisconsin
"Go Buckeyes!" - Mark Dantonio
I wonder if he'll say the same thing this year?
I asked some of my MSU friends if they would be rooting for Michigan this weekend and they said no. It is just another example of how all State fans hate Michigan more than they like their own team.
I just want to beat Ohio State
So what if we get them to the Rose Bowl. It means we beat OSU and our bowl game will now be a New Years Day game.
If Michigan beats OSU, and MSU beats PSU, then New Years Day bowl. If, however, PSU beats MSU, then we aren't in any better position because we would be tied with PSU and Iowa at 8-4. We MIGHT get past Iowa in the selection process, but if we don't then we are still 6th in line and Insight-bound.
GO BLUE!!! Beat OSU!!!
To quote the immortal Joey Tribiani, the point is "moo". Sparty is going to lose to Penn State.
Edit: I'm sorry, but it did.
I'd rather help my little brother be successful than lose to that MeatHead Jackwagon that's been strealing my lunch money for 6 years.
Seems like a no-brainer to me...
Since we seem to be voting on the subject, I'm going to vote for two different things:
1. We beat OSU.
2. Penn State beats MSU.
Someone please put up the Herm video!!!
I'm more concerned about beating than Ohio State then sending Michigan State to the Rose Bowl. If anything MSU goes to the Rose Bowl, plays a better team, gets bent over and the reality finally sets in to MSU fans that their team is good not great. So win win for us.
I think it would be great if MSU went to the rose bowl and played either TCU or Boise State. I believe that if Oregon plays for the national championship the Rose bowl is then required to take an at large bid. I think TCU or Boise State would pound MSU into the ground and that would be very funny.
I was talking with the PSU fan in my office and I predicted a season ending Lion win. It's going to happen. We should stop worrying about that team in East Lansing and worry about taking care of our own business.
The next thread lamenting the fact MSU goes to the Rose Bowl with a Michigan win will be negbombed past oblivion. Michigan State means nothing. They are 2nd rivals at best. This is GOD DAMNED, MOTHER FUCKING, TRUCK-DRIVING, PEDERAST, BUCK-TOOTHED, HILLBILLY, REDNECK, ILLITERATE, POSSOM-EATING, COUSIN-FUCKING, SHIT-EATING, WINE-COOLER-LOVING OHIO STATE WEEK.
FUCKING FOCUS ON WHO YOUR REAL RIVAL IS.
Who cares about anything besides Ohio State this week?
Don't forget, these assholes went for two "Because they couldn't go for 3"
Don't forget, these assholes brought German Shepards to mess with our players before the game of the century
Don't forget, these assholes end their official season flyers with "Beat Michigan"
this is THE GAME. get ready.
Is that you Gris? That sounded a lot like Clark Griswold to me.
deck the halls with boughs of holly
I need more eggnog after that rant!
You forgot to mention something about sweater vests.
But tell me how you really feel.
Clean out your coolers boys and girls, and keep them that way.
My ma taught me that a good big brother takes care of his little brother. If they're best season in the last 40 years puts them on the cusp of the Rose Bowl, they've earned the right to play in the bset bowl of them all. So congrats to them. And I'd love to be able to say "you're welcome" because of our biggest win since January 1, 1998. Besides, I'd much rather see Sparty go to their first Rose Bowl in 20 years then see Bielema or OSU go.
OH HOW I HATE OHIO STATE!
At least it will be a Win-Win situation when we line up for the game winning field goal
and then, the fake. Jesus, don't talk about us kicking game-winning field goals.
As those of us who were in attendance at the Washington game in 2002 know, there is always a chance no matter how hopeless your kicking game has looked.
We had a thread about this last week: who cares?
If sparty goes to the Rose Bowl, so be it. Let's beat OSU and keep moving forward.
This shouldn't be an issue. Our desire to win our games more than we care about how Michigan State does separates us from Sparty. That, test scores, and common decency.
Even if we send them to the Rose Bowl they are gonna get killed by Stanford. Wait...that will give those Harbaugh lovers more ammo.
If they go 11-1, they deserve the Rose Bowl.
They will be the luckiest 11-1 team in college football history. Fake FG to beat ND, late comebacks to beat Northwestern and Purdue plus they didn't even play OSU.
I don't think they're an incredible team, but they've won. If Michigan won a few more games on fluke plays or because of opponent meltdowns we would be pushing for the Rose Bowl every time. It's not a different situation just because they're MSU.
I believe the title of luckiest team in college football history goes to 2 loss 2007 national champs LSUcks.
Were the most fortunate team ever
My vote's for them. Either way, I think the point is championship caliber teams have their fair share of escapes. It's definitely humbling to us that Sparty is way up while we are down, but give them the credit they deserve.
If we beat OSU this Saturday, how many UM fans do you think will honestly be thinking about who goes to the Rose Bowl.
I'm sure the first thing I will do is run home and check to see if MSU won and will be Rose Bowl bound. So, would you rather have us lose to OSU so that Wiscy can go instead? I am just curious here.
First, that would mean beating Ohio State and ending any BCS bowl chance they had left. Second, that would mean Sparty would have to play a team that would probably dominate them from the opening snap of the ball.
But in the end, who really gives two $#its about Sparty? A win and we're playing on New Year's Day in a pretty decent bowl in addition to already having secured the all-important practice time you get with a bowl game and there is no chance our coach is going anywhere.
Michigan Agricultural will probably lose to Penn St. anyway. But even if they don't, who cares. I think it would be funny to watch them get shredded by Boise St in the Rose Bowl.
Stupid thread. This is a Sparty kind of thing to say. I don't care if al-Qaeda says there's a nuclear bomb planted in Times Square programmed to go off if Michigan beats Ohio State. Beat Ohio State.
I smell a hit TV show...
I don't understand why that's a big deal, though. It's Dantonio's shtick to want to stick it to Michigan by any means possible. He, and Sparty nation, want us to know that they matter (and that they're not gonna' take it anymore). It's on us not to react the same way. We should congratulate them on their success when they deserve it. We don't need to derive sadistic pleasure from their misfortune just because they do from ours. We know that we matter,* and that's good enough. We're Michigan.
Personally, I would rather see State go to the Rose Bowl than Ohio State or Wisconsin. They have an impetuous fan-base and coach, but they are still our in-state brethren. I wish more Michigan fans looked at it this way. We're too good to attempt to salvage something from a sub-par season by hoping that they miss out on a bowl that they deserve (and they do deserve it if they win on Saturday).** It's not becoming to act like that.
* Remember who holds the most wins all-time, owns the series against State, and has won the most Big Ten titles in football?
** That's fine to do regarding OSU, though. They deserve nothing good. Ever.
Maybe if the SEC won 20 straight MNCs and OSU happened to represent the Big Ten in the championship game in year 21. No, never. Deriving pleasure from beating them in the Game to see their season ruined is always good.
Ohio State. MSU will probably lose to PSU anyway.
I'm still holding a grudge against MSU. I was deffered from that school two years ago. I didn't care after I got into U of M, but I'm still holding it against them.
That being said, I want to beat OSU, but a long term Michigan fan living in the state has created lots of hate over the past 19 years. Sending them to the Rose Bowl would be terrible.
They are going to lose to PSU anyway, so it's not even that big of a deal.
Nobody ever went to Michigan because they couldn't get in to MSU.
I got into MSU eventually, just sat on the wait list for a while.
They figured out their mistake and fixed it.
Let's be clear though, I didn't come to Michigan because I didn't get into MSU, I came to Michigan because I got into Michigan.
So the joke still applies, what do MSU and U of M students all have in common?
They all got into MSU.
Lost some points for being wait listed at MSU, I guess I deserve that.
If State's 2 previous ventures out of state are any indication, the 23 year streak of "No Pasadena for you" should continue, with or without our help.
I am an AVID UM SUPPORTER & have been since I could watch a TV (a long time now).
With that being said, I would prefer msu to go onto a better bowl game than osu. My hatred for osu and the a$$ whoopin that they have handed us 7 (lost track?) years now has to stop. I hate osu with a passion, WITH A PASSION.
Even knowing that I would have to hear the majority Sparty fanbase I work with and majority of friends badger(!) me on a daily basis how their team is better I would prefer to see a Michigan school go over The Browneyes.
I know people will get fired up about me *rooting* for msu...But this state needs something positive with economy, job market, Lions, Pistons, Tigers all sucking ass in a major way.
P.S. WTF was Gerg rubbing people with a stuffed beaver on the sidellines for!?!?
Who cares who goes to the Rose Bowl? This is an idiotic and annoying post. (Get off of my lawn!!!) Seriously,
- We ALWAYS want Michigan to win every game they play,
- A thousand times more, we want Michigan to beat OSU.
- Looking at how our wins/losses affect ANY team, including MSU, is irrelevant.
So yes, yes, yes, I want MSU to go to the Rose Bowl. It means that we beat OSU. It also means, in a snarky way, that they only reason they went is because we helped them out (good big brother thing.)
Beat OSU. I could care less what else happens.
Penn State will beat MSU
Penn state will beat MSU and I hope we beat OSU and Wisconsin wins the big ten. I can deal with that. I dont like Wisconsin but I dont hate them like I hate MSU and OSU
I would be happy with an 11-1 season, no matter the bowl. First things first, focus on Happy Valley.The Rose Bowl would be huge for our program, but we would have to back our way into it and rely on an OSU loss. If we had taken care of business by not laying an egg in Iowa City then there wouldn't be a need for this discussion. But in any case....GO BLUE BEAT THE SUCKEYES!
You are much too objective and reasonable for a Sparty.
Who cares. MSU will never be superior to Michigan. It won't be long before we eclipse them again and then no one would remember MSU going to the Rose Bowl compared to what a massive upset it would be if we did end the streak against OSU this Saturday. So be it if MSU goes to Pasadena. This is one season. History will realign in the near future and MSU will be back in their proverbial place for many years to come.
Dantonio having to squirm around the subject this week....the mixed emotions of Sparty fans...having to depend on us, knowing all the hype for Michigan and positive light that will come if we win....I'll be rooting for Penn State, to keep their championless streak intact too, but I'm all for them going to the Rose Bowl if it means we beat OSU. They'll always owe their last appearance to us.
You do realize that a PSU loss and an M victory will leave you guys tied with PSU in the conference at 4-4 and give you a better overall record than PSU. While PSU holds the tiebreaker, the better overall record may be enough for M to get the nod in a better bowl appearance due to the bigger brand name. Just something to consider
But I think unless someone comes out and says JOEPA IS COMING BACK FOR 2011, GUARANTEED I think they'll still leapfrog us. And on the other side, I haven't done the research, but a better game means a better opponent...and frankly, I think we need the win more than an exciting location, at this point and time. The Insight with Oklahoma or Missouri sounds too tough as it is. Facing some SEC team on New Year's Day? There are years to take on all comers....this year a win in some Texas Bowl might do us more good than a high profile loss in a better bowl.
The Insight is on 12/28 and against the Big12 #4. The Gator Bowl is on NYD and against the SEC #6. If Auburn and LSU go to BCS bowls, that leaves us with either Florida or Mississippi State. That sounds like a better game to me. Those bowls split the 4/5 spot, so if both teams pick us or PSU, then they flip a coin to see who gets us.
The best case scenario for us is for MSU, Michigan, and Minnesota to win. That would give us a better overall than Iowa and PSU, which would put us in the Outback. Aside from that, we basically have a 50/50 of getting into the Insight or Gator bowls unless the BCS only takes one Big10 team and we get pushed the the #6 pick. And, since Minnesota will not beat Iowa, the outcome of your game likely doesn't affect the bowl we go to.
Well, have fun in Pasadena Sparty. I would send any team to Pasadena if it means we beat OSU. Go Blue!
Spoof football is a fucking moron. According to your definition, UM/OSU wasn't a rivalry in the 90s cuz Michigan kicked ass. In fact, it means we haven't been rivals with MSU for over 30 years save the past 3.
HAHAHA U BEAT US 3 YRS IN A ROW N WE HAVEN'T WON IN 1000 DAYS. THAT DOES IT: IT'S NOT A RIVALRY CUZ MICH OBV WILL SUCK FOREVA!!!