Semi-OT: ESPN Article on Vetting Recuits

Submitted by EastCoast Esq. on

Very interesting article from ESPN on vetting recruits.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/recruiting/story/_/id/14792109/legal-privacy-perception-issues-hinder-vetting-top-football-recruits

As most MGoBloggers probably know, the NFL is very good at probing and poking and getting a full picture of prospects' background and character. NCAA coaches do not have that luxury because the players get to choose. If you offend a talented recruit by asking a personal question, chances are you miss out on what could be a key piece of your team's puzzle. Additionally, it isn't always easy to conduct searches covertly because, as the article mentions, many juvenile records are sealed.

All in all, it's a very difficult but important balance to strike. I'll note that the SEC coaches who were interviewed were -- by and large -- more willing to take on question marks. The exception is Bret Bielema....who just happens to have been raised in B1G country.

EDIT: To be clear, I don't actually respect Bielema. However, he seems to actually give a damn about a recruit's background vs. the other SEC coaches who were interviewed.

LSAClassOf2000

February 18th, 2016 at 11:31 AM ^

Fortunately for me, there are eyewash stations around the building as we do occasionally deal with things which might be hazardous if splattered all over your eyes, and as that is exactly what happened with this image, my very next stop - before lunch, which I may now be unable to eat - will be one of those stations. 

I did find this interesting though:

A recruiting assistant from a Group of 5 program estimated that they stop recruiting 3 to 5 percent of prospects because of "criminal activities or rumors of [past activity]." A Pac-12 recruiting assistant put the number as high as 10 percent.

I wonder what that number is like across schools within conferences too and if they would use that to benchmark a more unified, formal policy, even if it left the school some individual discretion. I have a suspicion that 10% might be on the high end in a lot of cases, but I could be wrong there. 

mgobaran

February 18th, 2016 at 12:52 PM ^

Sorry, you're right. Never realized they could go to another school for that first semester. To me, grayshirtting as always been synonymous with over-signing, and not a practice to get a players academics in order.

 

Athletes who grayshirt are allowed to enroll as students. They go to class for the first semester as part-time students, either at the school or at a junior college, without starting their eligibility clocks. Then they begin as full-time students on scholarship.

ShadowStorm33

February 18th, 2016 at 1:36 PM ^

 

But when asked what it would take to prompt meaningful change, an ACC recruiting coordinator responded with a question of his own: "When's the last time you saw someone get fired that's winning 10 games a year?"

Bo Pelini and Frank Solich

#TheNebraskaDifference

PopeLando

February 18th, 2016 at 1:38 PM ^

It's a pretty simple set of incentives. A top level college player will make his school millions in 3-5 years, while costing relatively little. A top level NFL player will make his team hundreds of millions over 5-10 years, while costing hundreds of millions. Pros have a longer timeframe with a larger dollar amount invested. The cost of cutting a pro player is high. The cost of cutting a college player is low. There is far less incentive to do due diligence for college. Add in the fact that as a college coach you can be sure that if you disqualify a top-level recruit for off the field issues, one of your competitors won't...it's very much a Prisoners Dilemma scenario (no pun intended lol).

Tuebor

February 18th, 2016 at 2:22 PM ^

Isn't this what in home visits are all about?  It doesn't get much more intimate than visiting someones house and spending time with their family.  Seems to me that a coach would have a pretty good picture of what a kid is going to be like just from that.

EastCoast Esq.

February 18th, 2016 at 2:40 PM ^

An in-house visit is fine, but it won't give you any information about when they've gotten in trouble, what their reputation is around the community, or how they react to tough coaching (i.e. yelling).

The coach is selling at an in-house visit. NFL scouts are buying. Completely different power dynamic.