hey, am i the only one who thought it really looked like RR's eyes were all teared up during the end of the game?
they kept cutting in for close ups of him, and either he has quite the twinkle in his eye or he was really tearing up.
a collective of all the Michigan fans welling up and it almost came out of his eyes... like mine....
OK, can we begin the 500 points to start a thread rule now?
we will all be subjected to some excuse as to why RR is great, but...
Nobody but those under the 500 point threshold have the guts to post the threads of what we're all actually thinking. The rest of us know better, lest we unleash the wrath of the apologists.
You could be like me and not just post anything at all. Love how you all freak about points!
Sorry, but STFU. What, are you worried you might drop below 5K if you say what you really think? Ooooh, some "apologists" might react poorly if you speak the truth and they can't handle it.
i was making an honest observation. it struck me as weird. not pointing to the previous "crying incident" during a press conference. not implying my approval or disproval for RR. not picking a fight, nor saying anything incendiary.
my point was simple - i think i thought i saw RR cry.
thats some pretty raw emotion and heavy stuff, regardless of what side of the fire/save RR fence ya are on. my mates have all moved across the country, but were they all here thats what we might be discussing. thought thats the point of these forums.
id say you calling me out (a longtime reader of this blog) just because i only recently created an account was the immautre action taken here. i tried to pick an accurate title for the thread so those not interested might not waste time on it. sorry if you were expecting something different.
dude, im the OP.
"please up the point requirement to 1000."
point taken, but isn't there a happy medium somewhere between OMG RR U SUXXXX!!!! MUST HIREZZ HARBAUGH NOW!!!! ,and the nothing to see here we'll be OK give RR and GERG seven more years crowd? Anymore,it seems like its either Fox News or NPR around here.
Maybe after everyone calms down in a few days we can see some threads hypothesizing if Rich could successfully weather another DC change, or who some of the possible candidates to replace Rich are if DB moves in that direction. IDK, maybe its just because I normally stay away from the board for a few days after a tough loss.
I wasn't implying that NPR was liberal biased (that is another argument I won't participate in here). I was just comparing the "sky is falling" approach of Fox with the smooth, calm demeanor of NPR.
As you suggest, let's ease up on the NPR vs Fox references.
It's getting past my bedtime, and I should have seen that it could have easily been regarded in that way. Thanks, and a minus to me for not choosing my comparison more wisely.
I have never started a thread. But, it has nothing to do with my points. It has more to do with the fact that best thing I can think of for a thread is why David Hasselhoff is so popular in Germany!!! Hmm...I guess mgopoints really do have a correlation with cognitive ability.
I said the same thing to my girlfriend when he was wiping his eyes. He's putting everything he has into this team and the defense just isn't progressing.
We get it.
Why not + 1,000 to you for being a party lackey?
He has underperformed his whole time at M. The Big East has no ranked teams. He fired his DC after 1 year, He fired his LB coach after 2 years, his D is #120 of 120...
He may have been awesome at WVU, but he's not working out at M. It's OK. Bellichek sucked ass on the Browns.
Again, I ask, at what point do we stop blaming Lloyd Carr, and start looking at what is on the field right now?
We can't keep defending this staff by using the previous staff as a whipping boy.
Are you being patient and rational in your treatment of Lloyd Carr over the past month?
Why on earth should he not have renewed his contract? A promising freshman class that went to the Rose Bowl has a sophomore slump, and the 2006 team looked like one that was poised to win a championship. And, guess what? They came within 3 points of having a shot at it!
Do you not understand that hindsight is 20/20? That the activities of figures in the past did not have the reference point of what would come after when they made the decisions they made? What could Lloyd Carr have possibly known in 2005 to think that he shouldn't continue as head coach?
Your argument makes zero sense. At all. I know you really, really want to defend Rich Rodriguez by using some cockamamie reinvention of Lloyd Carr's tenure, but if you're really going to keep harping on people to be "rational," shouldn't that translate to your argument as well?
Also, what's with the all-caps sections in all of your posts this weekend?
And I'm sick of you lying about Lloyd Carr. It goes both ways. And if you're really defending your thesis this year, like you brag about at least once every day, odds are you're smarter than that.
Calls for rationality have to be paired with rationality. Also, thanks for the -1, which always pops up within a minute of anything you post in response to me.
Says a lot about you that you'll neg-bomb based on sheer disagreement, then reply on top of it. And then admit to doing so.
Elevation of discourse right here.
boycott != censorship
People not buying the paper is not stopping the Freep from printing what they want. If the Freep becomes unpopular by its own actions, it's thier fault, no one censored them.
Come on now, the defense is only 106/120
he needs to take it like a man. He hired GREG he coaches the team and he needs to act like a leader and inspire some confidence in a team that looked like it had none tonight, crying is not going to do that.
yes you are the only one
Oh, wait, that's baseball.
Michigan football makes me sad sometimes...Tom Hanks makes me happy!
Hard to sort out stupidity to stupid criticism to okay criticism in the post game.
Worse, someone deleted all the threads (without justifying it) that emphasized civility and to avoiding in-fighting. Not helping our cause.
And we apparently lost a moderator as well. GB tells me he's lost his powers.
What's up with that? Love him or hate him he seems to spend a lot of time policing around here in a pretty thankless job.
Locking threads is one thing. Making them disappear is poor moderation. (Just my $0.02. And I know that it's not you, FA)
GB no longer rules with an iron fist? We are free men!
If anything, it means I have to be an asshole more than laid back reason.
Your an asshole when your being an asshole FA.
Let's not play Good Cop/Mom here.
I follow a few boards, this is the only sports one. None are populated with such passionate posters. All suffer from the same lack of rationality.
I saw how all of the threads were gone and couldn't believe it. Thanks to whomever put them back up.
Ones that I could remember the title to that were civil, I tried to bring back up. I felt like deleting examples of fans talking rationally sets a good example to the post-game crowd that "hey, we can handle this more responsibly than [massive whining]." All of them disappeared right before the post-game crowd came in, and several of the threads started by the post-game crowd were deleted.
Would they have posted stupid threads regardless of the other threads? Yeah, a couple. But would they have been influenced to read a thread titled "bye bye RichRod", make a comment there to get out their initial frustration, and perhaps cut down on the number of stupid threads? I think that's a valid hypothesis. It at least would encourage some civility.
No coach has had such a rough start at a school then him. Coming to a school like Michigan it should be a lot easier then this to win. He knows what he is up against. A lack of upperclassmen on defense, angry fans that just want to beat a rival not named Notre Dame and a uncertain future. I want him to stand up and lead this team to the promised land I just don't think he is going to have a chance to see his plan carried out.
Stop making excuses.
Really? How is anything he said an excuse? "Fans" like you must sit watching these games hoping we lose so you can run to the board and go all "ZOMG! I TOLD YOU SO!!!"
I went to M for 6 years, have 2 degrees, have donated ~$1,000 and I "want them to lose". That's right. Asshole.
I hope you have an awesome career with your education, but acting like you are superrior by saying, "let Brandon decide" is passing the buck.
I'm presenting facts about RR's failure as a Michigan coach, and you have nothing to counter. If it makes you feel better, Brian said RR wouldn't be M's coach after the end of the season to the NYC M alumni club.
The one thing I have learned in research science, is that those with the best background and resume (like DB) make the best decisions.
You must be in your first year of doc study. You'll learn.
P.S. - What is "research science?"
Im bummed on the loss. I am.
But jblaze and Wovlerine318 EPIC POSTOFF is making me laugh..
Its like watching American Gladiators Joust, only with really nerdy kids arguing about how Superman flys faster, using insults instead of batons... FIGHT!
you know you are talking about the internet right?
Your response, coupled with all your other comments tonight, tells me all I need to know about your ability to think before you open your mouth. Congratulations on your donation, I hope it gives you the ability to select our next head coach, you're certainly the right man for the job.
What does a "multi-million dollar contract" have to do with having a chance?
I doubt anyone who has watched this team this season doubts that this offense can work against anyone. The issue is defensive talent and scheme. I, like most people on this board, have little confidence in this defense. Heck, we've had diaries that reasonably suggested we should go for it on every 4th down and onside kick after every score.
This team is no different than they were to start the season, a potent offense with a pathetic defense. That is why in every recruiting thread someone suggests that the remaining recruits should all be on defense. Why, when they are what we thought they'd be, do we hear so much hatred when the weakness we know is exposed every week?
I am thrilled with the offense and its potential and I am disgusted by the defense. I believe they will both improve next season as the players mature both physically and in the scheme. Then we will have an awesome offense (see Oregon) and an improved defense, which might be enough to put us back in the Big Ten title conversation.
from what you yourself just said: "This team is no different than they were to start the season". 8 games in there should be SOME improvement and instead we keep getting blown out, game after game, after game.
First defensive play last night and I saw the same guys in the back 7 with their backs turned to the QB. I mean, seriously? I know GERG doesn't read this site but maybe he should...seems like a lot of our shortcomings are pointed out week after week and yet we see the same mistakes over and over and over again. What are they doing all week?
Rich Rod's own Nike commercial is coming out soon
"What do you want me to do?"
Those were tears of relief, he knows it will soon be over.
He got right in front of the D - GERG included - and lit them up. Seems like they went out and made a stop too.
Denard was about 10 yards of Passing and 10 yards of rushing tonight from his 3rd 200/200.
RR stays, but Gerg is looking for new digs.
I imagine that for most Michigan fans, whether you're behind the coaches at the moment or not, it's really hard to be level headed right now. The last time Michigan won a Big 10 game against a team not named Indiana was November 8, 2008! Two years is a long time for any fan base to just suck it up and not vent some frustrations.
Thankfully, David Brandon is a level headed leader that will be able to evaluate the program and its future potential at the end of the year and make the right decision.
Seeing that date. I can't belive that was the last big Ten win other then Indiana. Friggin Minnesota. It really has been along time. I am just shocked to see it in writing like that. It really is impossiable to defend.