RCMB Dark Humor - Foster Loyer
Started reading - and it was just too damn funny not to share...
February 13th, 2021 at 9:11 PM ^
Thanks MD. I do it all the time. They are hilarious over there, under those red cedars.
February 13th, 2021 at 10:53 PM ^
I’m happy to see some people admitting this absolute truth. I lurk there, 5% for the truly informative and up-to-date “Harbaughed” thread and 95% for the downriver jokes.
February 13th, 2021 at 11:37 PM ^
Also guilty......the "Harbaughed" thread is pathetic or maybe it's the "mgoblog imploding".........
February 14th, 2021 at 12:17 PM ^
“Harbaughed” is a legit good source though. Sure, most of the comments about it are pretty opinionated from the perspective of rivals, but I don’t know another place on the internet that has that information accumulated like that.
I guess I don’t hate that board as much as some because I used to chat with some of its members back on the ESPN boards a decade ago. A lot of ball-busting and self-deprecating humor by B1G fans in general. Two of the posters (Michigan fans) even got married and had a piece on ESPN. Despite the rest of those boards being absolute garbage, the B1G Lunch Links crew were a fun group. I was pretty bummed when they canned the boards.
February 14th, 2021 at 12:26 PM ^
Lol! "Pathetic" may be the wrong word, obsessed is probably better. Sparties don't like being called little brother however, they can't stop acting like one.
February 14th, 2021 at 5:09 AM ^
On another note, some people on this board were pissed that Beilein let Watts get away.
February 14th, 2021 at 8:37 AM ^
I was going to point out that for how bad Loyer may be he is better than Watts.
February 14th, 2021 at 12:05 PM ^
You should drink less.
February 14th, 2021 at 2:16 PM ^
Loyer isn’t talented enough to be on the starting 5 of any big ten team. My conspiracy theory is that he is the long lost illegitimate son of Izzo which is why he’s on the team. Watts could be good. He’s got a nasty step back jumper when he makes it. He really needs to transfer. Izzo is failing him.
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February 14th, 2021 at 12:39 AM ^
HoLOLdomor
February 14th, 2021 at 11:13 AM ^
This is amazing
February 13th, 2021 at 9:25 PM ^
Interesting read. There were a couple people in there that think Rocket Watts is more of a transfer risk than Loyer
February 13th, 2021 at 9:28 PM ^
He sucks too, can't shoot or play PG to any effect.
Jaden Akins might be able to start for them next year.
February 13th, 2021 at 10:36 PM ^
Hell, Jade Adkins could start for them THIS year.
February 13th, 2021 at 11:22 PM ^
In December ESPN had Rocket Watts leaving as a 1st round pick in this year’s draft. I remember thinking that projection wasn’t going to age well.
February 14th, 2021 at 10:44 AM ^
Throwback to last season when there was a legit argument between fanbases whether Franz Wagner or Rocket Watts was a better freshman. Good times.
February 13th, 2021 at 9:38 PM ^
I completely agree with them on that.
I doubt Loyer transfers until he gets his degree. He's a captain and he's getting more minutes than he would see most places. He gets a 5th year and can do a grad transfer. Watts coming back next season would surprise me. He could use a fresh start and plenty of decent programs would give him one.
February 13th, 2021 at 10:20 PM ^
Nothing other than just wild assumptions on my part (I pay as little attention as possible to the inner workings of spartie hoops) but after reading only the first page of that rcmb thread, the two things I come away with:
1) Since apparently Loyer has the goal of going into coaching and eventually replacing Tiny Tom, he won't be transferring anywhere and, if no longer playing, would likely become a spartie grad assistant. In other words, Izzo's "Foster child"
2) I need to disinfect.
February 13th, 2021 at 9:48 PM ^
Other high-level programs would at least give Watts a look; no P5 program would give Loyer a scholarship so it makes sense he'd stick with MSU.
It amazes me that Watts was a consensus top-40 prospect his year. Like, he was considered a better prospect than Franz Wagner, Jalen Wilson, etc. I know that MSU has been a bit of a tire fire and he's asked to do a lot, but the fact he can't seem to succeed as a PG or a SG is pretty surprising.
February 14th, 2021 at 7:52 AM ^
Rocket looked the part last year IMO and I think everyone expected bug things from him this year. It’s just Tom Izzo doing what Tom Izzo does.
February 14th, 2021 at 10:46 AM ^
I think he was ranked higher in high school because he had the quickness and shot creation upside that could've made him a very good player. He just hasn't lived up to that potential though
February 14th, 2021 at 11:11 AM ^
I think Watts will go elsewhere and succeed.
I mean would any of us expected to see Ibi Watson blossom into a 16 ppg scorer or a great second/third option to Toppen last year?
Watts is not a PG in the single way Izzo wants to use them. His misuse shows how Izzo can coach certain players and is so set in his ways that if guys don't match the preform mold he has in his head, they won't succeed. It's why so many high-end recruits stick around for 4 years in EL, they are just cogs in Izzo's machine and are not able to showcase or develop to the potential.
February 13th, 2021 at 9:26 PM ^
The funniest one is the guy claiming he's getting a great education for free, he must be studying cardboard box folding.
I was watching some of that game and was thinking how Loyer really sucks and couldn't wait to see him get abused against Michigan when we finally play their sorry asses!
February 13th, 2021 at 9:32 PM ^
That's not fair. He could be studying to be a veterinarian or a concierge.
February 14th, 2021 at 10:47 AM ^
he must be studying cardboard box folding
I've heard about MSU's packing program, but have no clue what they actually learn. Like how is that even a major?
February 13th, 2021 at 9:26 PM ^
Been a tough week for rcmb
February 13th, 2021 at 9:31 PM ^
no tears shed for the RCMB crowd or sparty getting crushed by 30 at home, but not a fan of jumping on a specific player like that. they're still kids for the most part, and i don't like it when it's directed at our own guys either. i get the jokes about loyer, but IIRC he was a pretty highly-rated PG. better to take your ire out on tiny tom.
February 14th, 2021 at 8:00 AM ^
Agreed. Loyer led some really good Clarkston teams in scoring for four years and without a doubt the best shooter in HS I’ve ever seen in person. Coach’s kid and played like it by being a leader on the court.
Would be interesting to see him join his brother at Purdue and see how he does with a fresh start.
February 14th, 2021 at 8:37 AM ^
Actually you are just getting a great example on how overrated Clarkston kids can be as individual players. System made the kids. The big kid who played with Loyer who was committed to Michigan then went to Wisconsin isn’t worth anything either. Add in Kither too I guess
February 14th, 2021 at 8:33 AM ^
Wasn't Loyer the one that won Mr Bball over David DeJulius? Or was it Brandon Johns? In either case, that was a hotly contested vote. And also in either case, I'd still rather have both DeJulius and Johns over Loyer. But hindsight isn't a fair thing on which to base an opinion before said hindsight can have a say...
Edit: Yes, DDJ. I should have kept reading, LOL!! Note to self - read through the entire thread, and then go back and comment...
February 13th, 2021 at 9:33 PM ^
Good stuff.
I'm past my basketball prime by a good three decades, have had surgery on both knees, and still have a quicker first step than him. He might have the slowest feet of any starting PG I've ever seen in college basketball. He's absolutely no threat to do anything on the court.
David Dejulius, who was never going to do a lot at UM, absolutely torched Loyer a couple of times in high school.
A major, major recruiting miss for Izzo -- what was he thinking?
February 13th, 2021 at 9:45 PM ^
DDJ was himself a bit of a recruiting fail, though not as bad as Loyer.
February 13th, 2021 at 9:54 PM ^
I wonder if we would have gotten Mike Smith if DDJ had returned. DDJ's shooting numbers at Cinci are pretty comical. 36% from two and 20% from three.
He might be the last guard off the bench at UM this year.
February 13th, 2021 at 9:57 PM ^
DDJ is averaging 10 ppg, 5 rpg and 5 apg where Loyer is averaging 4.6, 1.6 and 2.3. I’d say DDJ is having a much better career than Loyer is.
February 13th, 2021 at 11:32 PM ^
DDJ seems to have made the right call for him. So good for him. At Michigan, he always seemed to be playing like a guy in a pick-up game.
February 14th, 2021 at 8:20 AM ^
February 13th, 2021 at 9:52 PM ^
All jokes aside, MSU and UM have proven how important the PG position is.
February 13th, 2021 at 10:12 PM ^
Just a quick reminder that 247 had Loyer ranked ahead of Jared Butler who was the B12 preseason player of the year and is probably going to be an all American
February 13th, 2021 at 10:53 PM ^
247 rankings are generally based on potential at the professional level. Did none of the analysts actually watch Loyer's high school games and notice how small he really was?
February 13th, 2021 at 11:03 PM ^
You also have to remember how Loyer earned his high rankings. Thank you Michigan voters for Mr. Basketball. There’s no way he was Mr. Basketball but it’s a prestigious award voted on by the press. Needless to say, I’m glad he was overrated. He couldn’t hold DDJ’s jockstrap. I too, cannot wait until we play them again. I love seeing him in the game.
February 13th, 2021 at 10:15 PM ^
Obviously a tough week for Tiny Tim Izzo. Would be nice to see Michigan crush MSU and make a deep run in the tournament. Playing MSU still terrifies me because I feel like they could upset any team in the conference. They aren’t good but they aren’t Nebraska level bad.
February 13th, 2021 at 10:28 PM ^
Loyers don’t care - $120k windfall that stays in their retirement account
What does that mean? Sparty gave Loyer the bag?
February 13th, 2021 at 10:40 PM ^
4 yrs free school at sparty (LCC). 4 x $30K = $120K?
February 14th, 2021 at 8:39 AM ^
To be honest, growing up in a family that simply couldn't afford college tuition, and with similar (lack of) 'talent' for bball, I would have taken that bag in a heartbeat.
February 13th, 2021 at 10:59 PM ^
Red Cedar board?? I didn't realize they had a fanbase. Interesting development
February 13th, 2021 at 11:09 PM ^
LOL god damn even one of their mods is piling on Loyer
February 13th, 2021 at 11:11 PM ^
This is very funny from our perspective but it’s also super shitty on their part. I don’t believe in ragging on college players unless they're dirty or don’t play hard.
There’s nothing wrong with genuine critiques of their play, we do it here all the time, but that kind of mockery doesn’t sit well with me
My thoughts here are worth what you paid for them ??♂️
February 14th, 2021 at 8:43 AM ^
I'm not going off to read RCMB this morning, but I will add that we do partake in mockery of some of the kids that play for Michigan sports. There are times when critiques go too far, and they're usually from the same set of posters (the more vitriol-ist of us). We're not a pristine fanbase...