Ramzy from 11Warriors has spoken!

Submitted by canzior on November 29th, 2023 at 3:37 PM

So like some of you i do check out that's going on over there occasionally. last year Ramzy wrote an amazing piece which ended with me needing a cigarette.

"Losing to Michigan like that is how Ohio State fans go full-cartoon and start talking about replacing a guy winning games at a 90% clip. But that's not just because he lost. It's because we've seen this type of loss so many times before, and we know what happens to coaches who lose to Michigan like this. They keep losing to them."

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/the-game-2022/2022/11/135426/the-situational-film-study-from-hell

 

Here is this years' article for those inclined. Haven't read it yet, expect it to be just as good.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/11/143486/fear-and-loathing

mGrowOld

November 29th, 2023 at 3:46 PM ^

Nope, sorry, not Ramzy.   He just wrote this for example:

"Sherrone Moore knew when valuable opportunities arose, like a wobbly true freshman entering the action, and he seized them. He didn't play it safe - he played to win. He went for it on 4th and short three times because that's what players who choose Michigan go there to do - to shine in big moments in the biggest games possible."

You guys really should read it, he's an exceptional writer and this article is terrific.

charblue.

November 29th, 2023 at 4:41 PM ^

The observation is accurate. I have watched and rooted for Michigan in every year of The Game since 1969. That year was especially memorable for me not because Schembechler's team made Those Who Stay a Michigan mantra through the ages but because it beat Woody in a season in which Ohio State was compared to one of the best pro teams of that day, the Minnesota Vikings.

And mostly because the Buckeyes had a player who had terrorized my high school in New Jersey as the best player it had ever produced. 

In 1965, my high school upset Bruce Jankowski's team in our annual Thanksgiving Day Turkey Bowl classic at Fair Lawn HS. Jankowski was a high school superstar on both sides of the ball. For Woody and Ohio State, he played flanker on the offense and was good enough to get drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs where he played for Hank Stram and played in one of the first Super Bowls. 

Michigan has always performed in The Game with a sense of conviction that belied its talent level which Ohio State always seemed to outmatch. Never mattered then. Doesn't matter now. Michigan under Jim Harbaugh can beat anyone. And when he's gone, it won't matter either. he's trained his people well enough that they know how to win The Game and coach those Who Stay Become Champions. 

 

UMxWolverines

November 29th, 2023 at 5:32 PM ^

I had shades of 2005 against OSU in my brain in the stadium on Saturday, where we punted on 4th and 3 only up two points at the end, and instead of trying for the touchdown earlier in the game we kicked the field goal that was somewhere within the 5 yard line. We played not to lose and ended up losing. 

We played for the win on Saturday, and we won. 

Robbie Moore

November 29th, 2023 at 3:42 PM ^

Ryan Day is just so soft. I really didn't focus on it until his post game comments after the Notre Dame game. This is football you pussy! There's no crying in football unless your 5th year team captain offensive lineman has his leg snapped in two on the field. And even then you suck it up, run right at them and score a touchdown.

Best wishes Zac.

ESNY

November 29th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^

It’s not just that he’s soft but he’s so pathetic that he gets bent out of shape from a pretty benign remark from a has been 90 yr old like Lou Holtz and then his reaction to barely escaping ND because Freeman can’t couch is to boast and puff out his chest to prove how tough they are. 
 

 

dieseljr32

November 29th, 2023 at 4:42 PM ^

I was confident in Michigan beating OSU again before the season started and Ryan Day yelling after the ND game cemented it that he's an intelligent football coach but this shit has gotten to him and there's no shot this year. Maybe it changes next season depending on if the NCAA forces Harbaugh back to the NFL and there's a talent drop off but that's about OSU's only chance to re-establish dominance. And that's still not a guarantee because, well Sherrone Moore is 1-0 and he'd probably be elevated to HC. 

M-Dog

November 29th, 2023 at 10:07 PM ^

Yeah, it absolutely did.  It cut him down.  He has an internal imposter syndrome as a head coach, and that comment put a white hot spotlight on it.

He is a thin-skinned individual . . . hang 100 on them . . . look how tough we are . . . that responds too easily to outside noise from someone like Harbaugh.

We are used to Harbaugh, so we find him somewhat odd and goofy.  But he can be intimidating as hell to somebody who is not sure of himself.  He has coached and won at all levels, including the freaking Super Bowl where he lost only to his own brother.  He follows his own compass without fear and has an almost robotic focus on all things football.  He is a very hard adversary to figure out.  

CompleteLunacy

November 29th, 2023 at 4:56 PM ^

Moore cried too, to be fair.

But here's the difference. People like Day manufacture emotions, it's all about appearances. So he called out Lou Holtz because he's been told he's soft and at OSU you can't be soft...which is why he went all "emotional tough guy". Except it came across as a WWE performance. In other words, FAKE. That is the same word I'd describe his penguin jump around "hype" dance.

Moore though? That was real emotional outburst. You can argue whether it was over the top or whatever, but you cannot deny the emotions were real and the pressure he and his team were under was real. Not manufactured "us against the world" because some geriatric coach said something in a random podcast...but real "us against the world" where the rest of the Big Ten hates Michigan for "cheating" and must rush to punish them to derail the season, even if the "cheating" did not provide that meaningful of an advantage compared to anyone else. (In a sport where far worse cheating  - tampering, pay-to-play - are all going on out in the open without so much as a sniff of investigation)

Perkis-Size Me

November 29th, 2023 at 4:16 PM ^

That's why I'm sure he's safe for next year:

1) Game is in Columbus

2) Michigan is losing a lot of talent this offseason, possibly McCarthy and possibly even Harbaugh

3) CFP expands so its very likely that next year's edition of The Game just determines playoff seeding. Both teams could end up in the BTCG the following week anyway, so even if OSU loses they could still win the Big Ten the following week. 

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But if he loses again next year, under those circumstances, there's zero way he survives. 

canzior

November 29th, 2023 at 5:59 PM ^

USC, Washington, and Oregon all lose their Qbs too and have a lot of upperclassmen. Texas will be tough...but only if Ewers stays. A first time starter 2 games in vs a very good returning defense for Michigan will be trouble. 

If JJ were to stay, Michigan should be preseason #1

Creedence Tapes

November 29th, 2023 at 5:52 PM ^

Of course, this phenomenon is known as the Richard Gere effect in academic circles. For those that don't know, Richard Gere's hair didn't begin to turn grey until after he started winning championships coaching Division II football at D'oh!o State in the early 90s. Studies have shown that this was directly correlated with his enhanced understanding of the rivalry with Shelbyville. 

SoDak Blues

November 29th, 2023 at 3:47 PM ^

"SHERRONE MOORE WENT FOR IT ON 4TH AND SHORT THREE TIMES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PLAYERS WHO CHOOSE MICHIGAN GO THERE TO DO - TO SHINE IN BIG MOMENTS IN THE BIGGEST GAMES POSSIBLE."

Damn, that is just awesome. I fucking love this team. 

WolvesoverGophers

November 29th, 2023 at 3:49 PM ^

This seems relevant:

SHERRONE MOORE WENT FOR IT ON 4TH AND SHORT THREE TIMES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PLAYERS WHO CHOOSE MICHIGAN GO THERE TO DO - TO SHINE IN BIG MOMENTS IN THE BIGGEST GAMES POSSIBLE.