rc15

May 21st, 2019 at 7:47 AM ^

Why would any fan be pissed about the University spending too much on a coach?

I want UofM to sign every coach to a $20mil/year contract. Nobody will ever leave us and we'll be able to get whatever coach we want. It is not my money they're spending. UofM is not in a position they need to raise tuition to fund a coach.

Mr Miggle

May 21st, 2019 at 10:20 AM ^

I'd be pissed if they wildly overspent on a coach if I thought there were much better possibilities for that price. I don't care much about the actual salary he gets.

Wildly overspending isn't a sustainable strategy. A $20M coach can fail here too. Expectations would be ridiculous and so would the pressure. Identifying who will do the best job is an inexact science.

If you're using it to poach coaches from top tier programs, you just end up raising what those schools will spend. Will those other schools just concede an advantage to Michigan on the field? Imagine we wanted Nick Saban. Would Bama allow themselves to be outbid? If you're trying to poach coaches from a tier below Michigan, well that's normal and you don't have to pay that much.

Gentleman Squirrels

May 20th, 2019 at 11:34 PM ^

While I want Warde to interview and consider Howard fully, it would be terrible if the fanbase doesn’t rally behind whomever is made the head coach, even if that is Cooley. We can’t have another Rich Rod situation. The future coach will not be like Beilein and the fanbase still has to support them from Day 1 as long they represent the University well (as a person and as a good coach).

Mr Miggle

May 21st, 2019 at 7:19 AM ^

That would be just as ridiculous since Cooley makes more than that now.

The only way a $6M number would fit is if it included a one time payment to cover his buyout. Some thing like $6M in year one, $3.5M the remaining years. That's similar to OSU's deal with Holtman.

I should add that 4 years is the absolute minimum contract length for a new coach.

Double-D

May 20th, 2019 at 11:47 PM ^

Rich Rod had enough support.   What he didn’t have was the concept of stopping the other teams offense.  He was giving up basketball scores.   And continued to do so in Arizona.

If he had won he would still be here and be as popular as can be.   Same will be true for our next basketball coach 

 

stephenrjking

May 21st, 2019 at 12:04 AM ^

RR got a raw deal and absolutely did not have full support. It was unfair and it was stupid.

But he didn't win, and that was what cost him his job. If he follows up 3-8 with 7-5 and then 9-3, he would still be coaching in 2011. But he didn't do that, and even his 7-win season featured a defense that was beyond hopeless, an embarrassment to the program and the University. 

Blue Me

May 21st, 2019 at 8:37 AM ^

I was hopeful and supportive of RR.

However, I went to his last game at the Gator Bowl and had second row seats. The MSU defensive players were calling out UM's plays as of the second series -- we could hear them. I don't think UM scored again after the first series.

RR was not all that and got what he deserved. His defenses were atrocious and his offenses gimmicky and not able to perform against good defenses.

wildbackdunesman

May 21st, 2019 at 6:00 AM ^

My brother is in the media and before his first game was telling me that major statewide media figures in the Detroit newspapers were horrified with him because he and Rita were country bumpkins.  I don't think that bias ever left the statewide media, which amplified any minor negative thing and literally invented negative things. 

Sure, had he won more he would still be here.  However, I think it is foolish to think that the deck wasn't stacked against RR from the start.  Furthermore, it is hard to focus on coaching when you are battling your own media about largely made up issues like countable hours.

BernardC

May 21st, 2019 at 6:40 AM ^

Agreed.

Unfortunately the first time this guy has a bad month or so, everyone is going to lose their shit because we all knew it's a bad hire from the jump.  Cooley will NEVER get any rope with the fans and if I'm him, I wouldn't  want to put myself or my family in that situation knowingly. 

Oh, and Warde's stay in AA will be short.

Mr Miggle

May 21st, 2019 at 7:24 AM ^

He is an announcer, for their student run radio station. A smaller version of WCBN.

He also was 388 followers on twitter. That's about the same as a random college student might have. He doesn't fit the profile of someone with good sources, more likely someone that hears rumors and runs with them. He's already backtracked his tweets.

Gentleman Squirrels

May 20th, 2019 at 11:24 PM ^

Sam webb reporting this is not true and premature. They are definitely interviewing Howard tomorrow. Also there is no fucking way Michigan pays 6 million for Ed Cooley. We didn’t even pay Beilein that much

bronxblue

May 20th, 2019 at 11:27 PM ^

This feels more like Ed Cooley getting a raise from someone at PC.  They aren't paying Cooley twice as much as Beilein (and more than freaking Tom Izzo).  Lots of people more connected to UM than this guy have refuted it, and while they may well end up with Cooley I doubt that decision has been made yet.

Yessir

May 20th, 2019 at 11:29 PM ^

You wanna piss off Michigan fan base, hire a fucking coach before you interview, many fans favorite, Howard a Michigan man for the job.

Say it ain't so.   

IAMNOTMAIZEN

May 21st, 2019 at 12:17 AM ^

I can’t help but think this is exactly what’s going on. Just as I was loving the fantasy of Juwan coaching this program, it turns out it was just a courtesy interview, haha surprise guys

 

No excitement here at Michigan wanted, no sir, we’ve got to get the lamest fucking option, St Friar from religious sanctimony with an added bit of forgettable basketball. Listen, Warde, they’ll both probably suck as coaches....get the fucking Michigan legend ffs

stephenrjking

May 20th, 2019 at 11:39 PM ^

Let's look at what's actually tweeted. The guy is Matt St. Jean, twitter handle @mattstdream. Twitter bio: PC '20 | Lead Color Broadcaster for Friars basketball on WDOM 91.3 | Contributor at Inside the Pylon.

https://twitter.com/mattstdream/status/1130630737961660418

 

https://twitter.com/mattstdream/status/1130630814021165061

 

https://twitter.com/mattstdream/status/1130631086961233921

So he thinks he has a good source, but notice the language: "Source has informed me..." "intends to accept a deal..." "rumored deal..."

And he has the integrity to include that last tweet indicating the limits of what he knows.

I think he's hearing some talk that's been blown up the proverbial game of telephone to sound certain when it isn't. I highly doubt this is true.

stephenrjking

May 21st, 2019 at 12:06 AM ^

He probably did hear something. But I doubt he has the seasoning to know when to be cautious about what he hears. Either he himself or his source could easily mishear stuff, not to mention the very real factor of people leaking misinformation to get certain desired effects. 

Even if it were a 20-year veteran, the sourcing for this is very strange. 

The one thing I will say is that we've seen, with Beilein shocking us with a new job and other things, that the Fort has become very good at plugging leaks. But that doesn't change my opinion here.