Potential referee implication for remaining games

Submitted by NashvilleBLUE on November 11th, 2023 at 10:58 AM

Not to get too tinfoil hat here, but isn’t there a legit chance that the same conference that is attacking their largest member is also going to do so through referees?

I don’t think it’s any secret that since Harbaugh started here the B1G refereeing has been objectively in the favor of opponents. Could it be bad luck or a coordinated effort, no way to know. But if it has been coordinated in the past, and the B1G’s entire narrative is based around the previous games being dominant due to the sign stealing; if UM runs away with this game, that whole narrative dies. To me, the scum in the B1G have to sway the outcome of this game, and what better tool than the refereeing.

Derek

November 11th, 2023 at 11:00 AM ^

B1G refs have always represented the height of competence and professionalism, so it would be truly shocking if they suddenly started to decide games with poor calls.

MGoBlue96

November 11th, 2023 at 11:00 AM ^

 A distinct possibility and it doesn't even have to neccassarily be Big Ten coordinated. The officials are human and if they have only been reading or seeing things from certain sources they themselves might have a negative opinion of UM. Last weeks game besides the idiotic Corum call was actually pretty fair but that is a whole different ballgame when you have a home night crowd to keep the officials in check.

Blue in Paradise

November 11th, 2023 at 11:00 AM ^

Stop it - you are now talking about fraud and maybe RICO.

 

Refs were against us in the 2016 Game and a few other unfortunate moments (Sparty 2021) but I haven’t noticed anything in the last couple of seasons.  Whistles against OSU the last two years have been fine.

Mattinboots

November 11th, 2023 at 11:01 AM ^

The conference has, thus far, acted like they don’t want to hurt the players. And have said all of this is to prevent erosion of the integrity of the game. If they do something to harm either, then the lawsuits become 1) easy and 2) very expensive. So I doubt it.

Blinkin

November 11th, 2023 at 11:18 AM ^

If the conference meant what they said about having the other teams signs as a threat to player safety, Ryan Day, Greg Schiano, and Ryan Walters would all be suspended today as well. 

The fact that that isn't the case tells you all you need to know about how much the conference gives a shit about player safety. 

brad

November 11th, 2023 at 11:02 AM ^

I do reflexively fear this because of 2015 MSU and 2016 OSU, but on the other hand if Harbaugh is actually serving the suspension it does not seem as likely the conference would try to interfere on the field as well.  Who knows though.  I won't be surprised to see an All PI offense work at times for Penn State today, for example.

MGlobules

November 11th, 2023 at 11:02 AM ^

Don't think this required its own thread, but of course.

Why the B1G wants to wreck its biggest chance since 2015 to win the NC perplexes me. They'll have time to sort that for themselves going forward.

Wolverine91

November 11th, 2023 at 11:03 AM ^

I’m still in shock. I’m just as annoyed w moore acting as head coach today. We clearly don’t have a coaching mismatch like we usually do with Franklin. And that’ll hurt us. Sorry I’m being a bitch, but I don’t see us winning this game. 

MGoGrendel

November 11th, 2023 at 11:04 AM ^

I was going to post the same idea.  If we see more holding calls - especially with JJ out of the pocket with a wide open receiver - you’ll know the fix is in.  

jmblue

November 11th, 2023 at 11:05 AM ^

The Big Ten's gotten its pound of flesh (Harbaugh suspended) so I don't see what's in it for them to also screw us over in refereeing.  At a minimum, they have to realize that alienating one of their most valuable programs isn't in their best interests.

That said, I did wonder about this if the TRO had been granted today and Harbaugh on the sidelines.  

shags

November 11th, 2023 at 11:05 AM ^

I was worried about this last week, but the refs were fine outside outside of two obvious missed calls both ways.  The hold on Corum (egregiously bad) and Michigan running into the kicker in the first half (which would have given Purdue a first down).

Blinkin

November 11th, 2023 at 11:06 AM ^

Aren't we one of the least penalized teams in the country so far? If not the least? The fact that that has stood since this "story" became a thing is a good sign. And if there's a significant uptick in our penalties, it'll be glaringly obvious due to our low penalty rate beforehand.

The Blue Collar

November 11th, 2023 at 11:11 AM ^

Been saying this for days.

There is zero chance the institution currently in a legal battle with Michigan will also officiate fairly. 

I'm more convinced than ever that the B1G explicitly told the officials to tilt the field in 2016. 

 

 

alum96

November 11th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^

UM is amongst the least penalized teams in the nation. If it starts changing next 3 games you have your answer.  But I am not going to tin foil until evidence starts to appear.

Perkis-Size Me

November 11th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^

Michigan is one of the least penalized teams in the country. If there is a massive uptick in penalties today and it’s not because of fundamental breakdowns, we’ll probably know why. 

M-Dog

November 11th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^

A referee job is a non-secure, transient job that is done at pleasure of the Big Ten conference.  As a ref, you have to make many 50/50 calls per game.  If you are a ref in this game, it is very clear where your employer wants you to come down on these calls.  That shadow follows you around, you can't completely ignore it.