Pete Thamel: B1G vote expected in next 72 hours

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on September 12th, 2020 at 5:15 PM

Fingers crossed.

Sources: The Big Ten presentation by the Return to Competition Task Force has ended successfully today. The full 14 Big Ten Chancellors and Presidents will meet tomorrow are expected to vote on return to play in next 72 hours. Today is the step before the step.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) September 12, 2020

Wolverine Devotee

September 12th, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^

Hearing a lot of rumbling among Big Ten sources about an informational meeting and a pending vote. Nothing concrete yet, but more chatter than I've heard since the original decision to postpone. Take it with a shaker of salt, but potentially interesting.

— John U. Bacon (@Johnubacon) September 12, 2020

Clarence Beeks

September 12th, 2020 at 5:54 PM ^

Yes, this. It’s a brutally bad look - especially for our players - to have this opening weekend of games happen and just be totally and completely absent and the fact that today actually happened (the games and broadcasts) would provide a huge shove. Remember back to when the original Big Ten vote happened and everyone was SURE that simultaneously no one wanted to be first or last to cancel. It turns out it was just two that wanted to cancel, and assumed everyone else would follow, and the rest... did not.

Rafiki

September 12th, 2020 at 6:44 PM ^

I don't think this weekend's games have any impact on how the B1G looks. It's too soon to tell what the effect of the college games will be. And, while their roll out and communication were poor, postponing the season to see how others did it is actually the smart move. They've allowed time for more data to be collected about the virus, testing, vaccines, treatment, and how to manage football games/programs. They get to watch what the SEC BIGXII and ACC do and learn from their mistakes. And if they play in time to have their teams still qualify for the Playoffs then there was no loss. 

 

The initial communication was pretty piss poor though. 

Lakeyale13

September 13th, 2020 at 10:06 AM ^

It is a "homer" take to say that SEC was wrong and looking our for profit and greed and Michigan was right and full of virtue and truth.

Michigan / Big10 made the decision earlier than they needed to.  Did Michigan / Big 10 believe they were making the right decision based on the facts?  I believe so. 

Did the SEC decide to play?  Yes they did.  Does this mean they don't care about their students / athletes and only care about money?  No.  You can actually care about keeping people safe and play football at the same time.

Being in the medical field, no one knows exactly what the data means.  They are making their best guess and some will be right and some will be wrong.  190,000 have died but we have no idea how many have been infected.  There are probably hundreds of thousands of people that have contracted COVID and didn't know or didn't go and get a confirmatory test.  Time will tell who made the better / wiser choice.

I Like Burgers

September 13th, 2020 at 10:36 AM ^

Oh come on...out of anyone the SEC did the smartest thing by delaying the start of their season until late Sept.  That gave them more time to figure out figure out testing and see if any other advances happened (they did).  The ACC and Big 12 didn't really change much at all, and just started roughly on time.

Meanwhile, the Big Ten abruptly voted to cancel their season a week or so into players practicing.  There was no reason to cancel at that time.  All they had to do was announce something like the SEC was doing and delay the start of their season until late Sept/early Oct. and reassess then.

Which is basically what they've wound up doing, but have done so while looking like complete idiots.

Plus, it didn't help any of their cases that they voted to cancel football because you can't have a bunch of players in close proximity, but sure lets invite thousands of students to campus and throw them in dorms and on campus housing without much of a plan in place for how you're going to keep everyone safe and things clean.

Lakeyale13

September 13th, 2020 at 10:11 AM ^

Clarence's take isn't bad....and neither is yours.  They are simply different takes on the same situation.  You can look at the data (as long as you don't politicize the data or emotionalize the data) and see that there are solid arguments for playing and for not playing.  Time will tell who made the better decision, but unless you have a crystal ball you cannot (at this time) tell someone their take on the situation is "bad" or "wrong".  You can disagree till the cows come home, but it is too early to say which decision will prove to have been best.

Indy Pete - Go Blue

September 12th, 2020 at 7:00 PM ^

I suspect that he is being facetious.  A player dies in this country from football at some level every year from head and neck injuries.  Numerous players suffer life-changing knee, head, and arm issues every season.  This is a violent and dangerous game.  But players make a conscious decision - knowing the risks.  Covid risks are real, and are just starting to be understood.  I am physician, yet I do not pretend to be an authority.  I do believe that the players, coaches, and refs should have the opportunity to choose what risks they are willing to take; they don't appreciate academic elites unilaterally making that choice for them.

NateVolk

September 12th, 2020 at 7:12 PM ^

People make these argument by analogy all the time. And they always use comparisons with things that aren't spreadable through the air person to person. 

Yes everything we do has risks. No, the things you named can't potentially exponentially spread to countless others. Without the parties involved realizing it. 

The fundamental nature of the virus is the elephant in the room with all these things. But there aren't enough bodies piling up, nor enough long term health issues afflicting people, nor enough surges in cases popping up out of nowhere to get people to come to terms with the reality of the uncontrolled mess we're stuck in.

It's just a sport everyone. 

Indy Pete - Go Blue

September 12th, 2020 at 7:17 PM ^

Very well said NV.  But this is still a sports blog where fans like us spend a lot of time because we are passionate about sports.  

I would vote to let people sign waivers to play - using consistent testing precautions with observation of CDC guidelines.  It looks like the majority of the world feels the same way: from youth leagues to professional leagues.  Who knows the right choice?  Truly - no one does.  But money talks.  Only a fool would deny that.  Also, watching ND play today probably had a psychological impact on B1G leadership - for various reasons.  This vote will be fascinating...

Communist Football

September 12th, 2020 at 11:03 PM ^

I'm not myself an insider, comrades, but the people I know definitely are—the facts on the ground are not constant, but it appears that football is going to happen. Main questions are: (1) Oct 10 or 17; (2) do all 14 teams play, or do a couple (Rutgers? Wiscy?) sit out.

FWIW, while we all love making fun of Sir Yacht, my understanding is that he is connected to Gene Smith—so the way to interpret his tweets is that they reflect Smith's understanding of the situation (which obviously has been far from perfect, and it is interesting in and of itself that Gene Smith's window into the facts has not been completely accurate).