Penn State loss to Pitt could end up costing Michigan
WIth Penn State's win over OSU on Saturday, there could be a three-way tie for the division title if Penn State runs the table and OSU beats (dare I say "upsets") Michigan in the game. The conference rules for tiebreakers are here - http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/archive/081011aaa.html.
Bottom line - the fifth tiebreaker of overall winning percentage would knock out Penn State and it would then revert to the Michigan-Ohio State head-to-head winner. If Penn State had defeated Pitt, then it would have fallen to the final tie breaker - a random draw. The random draw was news to me, I expected it to be based on rankings.
#beatOhioState
October 24th, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^
Win out.
October 24th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^
But imagine being some porta-cooler Buckeye,... They HAVE to root for us to win and go undefeated until THE GAME!
If we lose, then a win for them in THE GAME is worthless because PSU wins the division.
However, we root against OSU, because another buckeye loss and we winthe division winning out to THE GAME. We own the PSU tiebreaker.
October 24th, 2016 at 1:06 PM ^
could lose 1 or 2, and that would change the tie-breaker. it really doesn't matter until all the games are played imo.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^
Just. Win. We don't need to be Sparty-style hedging our bets before a big game in case we lose. Just win.
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October 24th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^
WD style:
Beat State.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:22 AM ^
Beat all of the States
October 24th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^
My interpretation is after tie breaker 1 psu would be eliminated and the head to head between us and OSU would decide it?
October 24th, 2016 at 11:10 AM ^
The first tiebreaker is head-to-head record. The document was written by somebody with a poor grasp of English, but the first tiebreaker is definitely head-to-head.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^
A lot can happen between now and then. But first, beat Staee.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^
We don't deserve to win the Big 10.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:04 AM ^
Unless OSU had a second loss. They still play Nebraska, who is not an easy out.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^
Just about to post the same thing.
I have this odd feeling that OSU is going to drop a second.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:09 AM ^
after the Wisconsin game I was convinced the "Game" would be no worse than a toss-up
after losing to a team we slammed by 39, we should be favored
assign Peppers to attack Barret and we should be good
not a fan of the draw - only gives you one chance in three
point differential amongst the 3 games that delivered the 1-1 hth tie should be next - something with points to keep from ever getting to a draw
October 24th, 2016 at 2:33 PM ^
And Penn State definitely is.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:11 AM ^
Mike Riley has a history of beating ranked teams. Beat a pretty good USC team in 2006.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:57 AM ^
Why would a random draw out of three teams be better odds than a game you can win between 2 teams?
October 24th, 2016 at 11:17 AM ^
He's saying that in the scenario where Michigan lost to Ohio State. Clearly, if Michigan wins they go to the Big Ten Championship game -- no one needs to be reminded of that.
However, if Penn State had beaten Pitt and wins out in the Big Ten, and Ohio State wins out in the Big Ten, and Michigan wins out in the Big Ten except for the OSU game, it would result in a three-way tie. And the tiebraker would go down to a random draw with a 33% chance of winning -- which would be better than the current scenario where Michigan has a 0% chance of going to the Big Ten championship game if they lose to Ohio State.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^
Thank you, I misread it I guess.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^
I gues I'm confused why we even talk about this. Michigan needs to beat OSU at the end of the year. That's what it comes down to. Enough overanalyzing.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:59 AM ^
in addition, PSU won't win out
October 24th, 2016 at 11:07 AM ^
Who do you see beating them?
October 24th, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
While PSU has cleared the toughest part of their conference schedule, it's not as if they are so good that every game remaining is a gimme win. The get Iowa at home and travel to Bloomington to play the Hoosiers. They'll probably be favorites in both, but neither game is a sure thing.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
PSU needed overtime to beat Minnesota a couple weeks ago. They're not that good.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:58 AM ^
Iowa, IU, and possibly even Sparty. PSU isn't anywhere close to the level of Michigan or OSU (despite the fact they lucked into a win this past weekend). I can't believe we are even talking about this or that this is a post. PSU won't compete for the east. Period.
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October 24th, 2016 at 8:41 PM ^
James Franklin is perfectly capable of beating Penn State.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^
Beat state.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^
In that situation, what would cost us would be losing to Ohio State. If we win the game, we are on the the Big Ten Championship Game, and probably going in at the #1 ranked team in the country.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:02 AM ^
Get booted from college football?
October 24th, 2016 at 11:12 AM ^
Bama just beat an undefeated 8th ranked TAMU. If UM and OSU get to the last game and UM wins, I don't know if beating a one loss team jumps you past bama.
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October 24th, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^
Unless they lose. They beat #20, #19, #16, #9, #6, and most of them were laughers.
Michigan's beat one ranked team at home.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
3 ranked teams*
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October 24th, 2016 at 11:53 AM ^
Technically, Michigan has beaten two ranked teams, although Colorado wasn't ranked at the time we played them.
Still, Bama is the clear #1 team in the country until somebody knocks them off.
Michigan needs to handle their schedule and if things go right, we'll get out chance to match up with the Tide.
October 24th, 2016 at 12:18 PM ^
Depends on if you are referring to current rankings or not. According to current rankings today, Alabama has defeated 2 top 25 teams and Michigan has defeated 3 top 25 teams.
Alabama has defeated #9 Texas A&M and # 18 Tennessee
Michigan has defeated # 11 Wisconsin, # 23 Colorado, and # 24 Penn State.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^
We dont have to worry about anything. We are going to be 15-0
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October 24th, 2016 at 1:07 PM ^
so relax everyone
October 24th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^
Never upset me.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:59 AM ^
With MSU's collapse, we can't rely on or count on them beating either PSU or OSU this year. Our fate is in our hands only. Just win.
October 24th, 2016 at 10:59 AM ^
Why does everyone assume we lose to OSU, I know the OP didn't come out and say it but have some confidence. We dominated Wisconsin (not scoring wise) and destroyed Penn State we sure as hell can beat the buckeyes
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October 24th, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^
After the events of the last 48 hours, this is what you choose to post on?
No way this is an issue ever
October 24th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^
Fuck this thread!
October 24th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^
PSU beating OSU. So I guess this is telling us a lot can still happen. Why the scenario of Ohio St will have 2 losses and Michigan will be undefeated when comes time to play "The Game". Let's chat about that scenario for awhile.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^
Winning cures all.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^
Does the cart come first or the horse? I can never remember.
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October 24th, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^
Just win out, or beat MSU. The path is clear. End of analysis.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:07 AM ^
..and you think Penn State is going to win out?.. come on.. lol.. really?
October 24th, 2016 at 11:24 AM ^
PSU's remaining schedule is kind. Iowa and MSU at home. Purdue, Rutgers & Indiana on the road. I think they'll lose one somewhere in there, but they'll probably be favored in all 5.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:08 AM ^
Don't even worry about that now. Besides, just because Penn State beat OSU thanks to a couple special teams plays does not mean they are winning out the rest of the season.
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October 24th, 2016 at 11:08 AM ^
Not even thinking in these terms at this point. Our goals are higher - we have to beat OSU and that is looking more likely than ever.
October 24th, 2016 at 11:10 AM ^
It really doesn't matter. If they hadn't changed it and it was the the highest-ranked CFP team, OSU would still obviously get it over us with a head-to-head win. We just need to win.
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