M go Bru

September 20th, 2016 at 2:20 AM ^

including Sandusky, Sandusky's wife, Curley, Spanjier, Joe Pa, and any other facilitator. 

Send them to the State Penitentiary and have them sodomized repeatedly by hard core prison inmates until .............. they can never walk or sit down again ...........living out their lives in constant debilitating pain ..............with no access to any pain medication.

After hearing that Joe Pa's wife is the one behind the honor fest last weekend, you can throw her in the same pen and have her raped repeatedly, too. 

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Nobody Likes a…

September 19th, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^

At this point is there anyone outside of the most idiotic Penn state loyalists who haven’t got the message on this? Also, as a state run property you’d think the state could or should have done something to stop the veneration of this repulsive enabler last weekend.

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Whole Milk

September 19th, 2016 at 11:59 AM ^

Sadly, there are people who just don't get it. I have had multiple conversations with various friends who are otherwise fantastic people, but they still are "fans" of Joe Pa. I cannot fathom it and a few were simply misinformed about his role, and have since changed their minds. But I am not sure there will ever be the complete disdain for that man that there should be. 

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ijohnb

September 19th, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^

think that Penn State did that specifically to appease certain portions of the fan base that feel alienated with the statue coming down, etc.  I think it was essentially a one-off, like "we are going to do this now, get it out of the way and never speak of this again."  This is supported by the rather odd occassion, the "50th anniversary" of his first game as head coach.  It is odd and forced.  I think they were just taking the bullet quick and then moving on and hoping that the Joe Pa supporters will be satisfied and that everybody else will forget they did it.

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NittanyFan

September 19th, 2016 at 2:18 PM ^

Joe Paterno's legacy" as much as "For a couple of years now, many of you have been asking us to commemorate Joe Paterno's 50th anniversary, given this home game falls on that exact day, here IS something."

I wasn't at the game personally, but from what I saw, it was a relatively modest acknowledgment.  

I'm not a JoeBot, but if the PSU adminstration throws the JoeBots a bone and plays a video that says "Exactly 50 years ago today Joe Paterno started coaching PSU football, and he put out generally very good football teams, and he did so while stressing to his players the importance of academic success" --- fair enough.  None of that message is not true.

If people want to get outraged because that message sidesteps a major part of Paterno's off-the-field story --- that's fair enough also.  They're not wrong either.

I guess I was just neutral on Saturday.  One thing it did accomplish: The Paterno Loyalist crowd can't say the day was completely ignored.  

Speaking of anniversaries --- one thing on the schedule worked out for the PSU administration.  October 29th, 2016 is a Saturday, and also the 5th anniversary of Paterno's 409th and last career victory.  Having a home game THAT day would have really caused a lot of loudness from the "Paterno Loyalists."  Fortunately, PSU is on the road that week (Purdue).

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NittanyFan

September 19th, 2016 at 8:03 PM ^

you feel good ---- but I'm not sure exactly what you want me to do.

Yelling at the "Paterno Loyalists" that they are wrong and dumb and misguided isn't going to work.  People have been doing that for 4+ years.  They aren't changing their mind.

I do believe that the PSU administration for 4 years now has had a long-term strategy of both "generally ignoring" the Paterno Loyalists while also trying to marginalize them.  

I didn't love Saturday.  

But I can tolerate Saturday from the POV of a tactical move by the administration to throw those folks a bone while also trying to neutralize one of their arguments ("you've completely ignored JoePa'a contributions to our history!") .

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NittanyFan

September 19th, 2016 at 8:05 PM ^

that's where this goes in the long-term.  

At this point, there is really no chance at changing the "Paterno Loyalists" opinion.  Eventually, though --- albeit 25+ years from now --- they do die and fade away.

It's not universal among this group, but I 100% feel that the younger alums and students aren't as "married" to Paterno as the 40+ crowd.  The student newspaper, for instance, had an editorial criticizing the decision to have any sort of commermoration at all on Saturday.

It will take time and it's a long-term process --- but I have no doubt that the "Paterno Loyalists" significance continues to decline, and that the younger more pragmatic alums take over in terms of defining PSU as a whole.

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BeatIt

September 19th, 2016 at 8:10 PM ^

he knew everything that went on there, in the program as well as out of the program. one of the guys in maintenance walked in on sandusky and a young boy in the shower and didn't report it because he knew it would mean his job. their own BOT was scared of him. when the indictment of sandusky initially hit the fan, a former player said there was campus wide jioke about sandusky and showers. he knew no question about it. i've been waiting for the curley, schultz and spanier trials to happen because you know they are going bto throw him under the bus.

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g_reaper3

September 19th, 2016 at 11:50 AM ^

I understand he was the legend there for many years and that he was excellent at winning football games. But how do you ignore this and honor him? Seems an embarrassment to have them in the Big Ten if they are going to continue to revere the man.

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1VaBlue1

September 19th, 2016 at 3:27 PM ^

Great idea!  And one covered extensively last week on this very same blog.  My question is, if we can't even get the members of the blog to all know about, and agree, to turn backs; then how will the 100,000 other UM fans figure it out?

Unless someone has the time, money, and know-how to strongly organize a grass roots campaign, it's not going to happen.

But it is a great idea.

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MGoBrewMom

September 19th, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^

It's a terrible shame--beyond words--but our fans do not need to chant any tacky shit to make a point. It's just grossly sad. So hopefully The Team just punches their lights out early and often, and the attention from this whole thing prevents one person from having so much power that enables "looking the other way"

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901 P

September 19th, 2016 at 12:43 PM ^

I agree. A display in the context of a football game runs the risk of cheapening it. It's sort of like when the Rice band spelled out "IX" for Title IX. I'm all for criticizing Baylor's recent behavior, but having the band do it blurs the line between legitimate, serious criticism of a moral wrong and the sort of taunting cheers that you use against your opponent. In other words, I would hate if a denunciation of Joe Pa to be put in the same category as yelling "you suck" at Penn State's QB or cheering a stop on third down or something like that. 

I guess doing something at a game isn't *necessarily* a bad thing, but I would be very, very sensitive to how it might be perceived. 

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MGoBrewMom

September 19th, 2016 at 1:48 PM ^

Those who are appaulled,are already there, and those who are excusing it or sticking their head in the sand won't really get it. I guess nothing wrong with it--but it's almost like arguing your political choice to someone opposite of yourself--you're just talking to air. You won't change any minds, and your mind is aready made up..so you're just doing something to make yourself feel better, imo

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xtramelanin

September 19th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^

headline:  100,000+ go silent when PSU hits the field - calling out PSU for it's silence to horrific child abuse

can't hurt.  might help point it out to many who might not know or care as these headlines on ESPN or the various news agencies get all over the country, including places that don't know/care much about the B10. 

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Old Alum

September 19th, 2016 at 12:03 PM ^

Good article, thank you for posting.  I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Fuck Penn State and fuck Joe Pa.

I'm not a fan of running up the score but this is an exception. I hope we run up the score, hang banners from everywhere condemning JoePa and Penn State, and run an anti- pedophilia fundraiser of some sort during the game. 

 

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ak47

September 19th, 2016 at 11:55 AM ^

Fuck penn state.  Hope we shut the fuckers out next week while putting up 50+ points and the entire second half is audible and clear chants from the crowd about joe paterno being a fucker and penn state an idiotic cult.

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