OT: Star Wars: The Force Awakens reaction thread WITH SPOILERS

Submitted by Tim Waymen on

A long time ago, in a thread very, very off-topic:

 

I just got back from seeing The Force Awakens. It was fantastic, absolutely wonderful. JJ Abrams is to Star Wars what Jim Harbaugh is to Michigan. It's entirely possible that Jim Hackett helped assemble the cast and crew for the film.

We're going to discuss the movie, with spoilers. If you haven't seen it, turn away immediately and go watch it so that you can get the full experience.

What did you think? How could George Lucas make such abominable prequels when someone is capable of making something as amazing as The Force Awakens?

May the force be with Blue.

Tim Waymen

December 17th, 2015 at 11:35 PM ^

I love the Kylo Ren story. At the heart of it is one of parents trying to reconnect with their son who has gone astray, disconnected from the values he was taught and giving in to temptation and vice. I mean, we've heard that story before--some of us here might have actually experienced it. Heartwrenching.

It reminds me a little of Ben Linus. Both characters got caught up in another world separate from that they were brought up in, and each killed his own father, though under different circumstances.

Tim Waymen

December 17th, 2015 at 11:43 PM ^

Originally, Keyser Soze was supposed to have the name Keyser Sume, named after Christopher McQuarrie's old boss. He allowed his old boss to read the script, and decided he did not want to be associated with an inherently evil villain, so requested a change be made.
Goddammit. It doesn't completely preclude the possibility that the names sharing initials was intentional, but it's probably a coincidence.

slimj091

December 17th, 2015 at 11:26 PM ^

I was seconds from crying like a baby with joy at the end. Thankfully I was able to maintain, and not embarrass myself like the giant fanboy that I am in front of all of the kids there.

AeroEngin04

December 17th, 2015 at 11:29 PM ^

Maybe a bit too formulaic to A New Hope with many scenes rehashed. Definitely need more background to the whole story. Is the New Republic and the Resistance two separate entities? Luke is Rey's father, I'm guessing, so who's the mom? How does Snoke learn the ways of the Dark Side? Guess I will have to pay Disney some more money for tidbits in the near future. MOAR info!!!

Heptarch

December 17th, 2015 at 11:31 PM ^

I thought it was great.  THe first handful of sly references to the old movies were fun... but then it seemed like they were cribbing a little TOO much from the old plotlines and it got a little distracting.  I love that it was story-focused instead of just moving from one action set-piece to the next and I'm glad for the return of humor to the franchise.

Overall, what pleased me most is that this movie FEELS more like Star Wars than the prequels.  The world feels gritty and lived-in again, which was what made the suspension of disbelief so easy in the original films.

I'll be seeing it at least two more times (3D and IMAX) and will count the money well-spent.

slimj091

December 17th, 2015 at 11:55 PM ^

I'm sure JJ will be involved in some capacity. Possibly in a producing role. My best guess is that in order to pump the next two films out in the schedule they have stated having JJ direct all three would be impractical. Episode 7's post production was going nearly all the way to release, and filming for Episode 8 will begin this coming March.

slimj091

December 17th, 2015 at 11:50 PM ^

One last thing for anyone who has not seen the film yet. There is no post credits scene. So don't bother sitting in the theater wating for it like three quarters of the crowd (me included) did.

cozy200

December 17th, 2015 at 11:55 PM ^

Boyega was a bit over the top with the hammy lines. How fucking good was Driver? That dude nailed the role. Good flick, hoping 8 has a different tone as well.

ps.. My friends aren't nerds and the wife was working so I went solo. After the anxiety passed it was perfect!

slimj091

December 18th, 2015 at 12:04 AM ^

I don't know. I think it fit the character well. The "in over his head" feeling was quite prominent, and justified considering his only job before being promoted to stormtrooper field duty was being a jaintor at star killer base.

I did enjoy watching his journey going from deserter, to coward, and finally to a selfless hero.

cozy200

December 18th, 2015 at 12:31 AM ^

Would like to see like 3 more minutes of him freaking out instead of just deciding to leave the First Order on a dime.

His hammy lines were just a bit too much of a distraction for me at times but the dude did a great job.

Again loved the movie and I mostly agree with all of these sentiments.

Tim Waymen

December 18th, 2015 at 12:05 AM ^

My God, it was so well cast. Daisy Ridley and John Boyega were awesome and had great chemistry. Oscar Isaac was a baller and Adam Driver was outstanding. I would have liked to see more of Gwendoline Christie.

The characters were straight up awesome and a reminder of another thing sorely lacking from the pr****ls. (I refuse to acknowledge them, and thankfully so did this movie.)

BlueFish

December 18th, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^

My friends aren't nerds and the wife was working so I went solo.

I went last night, and it was a people-listening gold mine.  Rarely do you find yourself in a room packed full of straight-up nerds, talking unabashedly (and loudly) like nerds, on opening night of a hyped movie that appeals to nerds.

And I say that as one of them.  It was an experience, for sure.

setauket

December 18th, 2015 at 12:06 AM ^

That Rey is a former Jedi trainee (of Luke's) who us uber strong with the force (moreso than Kylo) and was hidden when Kylo killed all of Luke's Jedi trainees (of which Kylo/Ben was one and was seduced to the Dark side by Snoke). Luke goes into hiding after. She was mind wiped and gets her memory and feeling of the force backduring this movie (maybe... an awakening of some kind)--I suspect more of her past will come out in 8 a la Luke and Vader in 5. This is Disney after all and formula is their thing.

 

 

Tim Waymen

December 18th, 2015 at 12:13 AM ^

By the way, if you want to watch an excellent video essay that will explains why the prequels are just bad cinema, see the Mr. Plinkett reviews by RedLetterMedia if you haven't already. They're long but they not only explain everything that is wrong with the prequels, but also why we love the originals in the first place, and you'll also learn a lot about movies in general. I can't recommend the Mr. Plinkett reviews enough.

Danwillhor

December 18th, 2015 at 1:24 AM ^

Seriously. I can't sleep (bouts of insomnia) and I've never heard of these but I'm cracking up about to start part 3 of the episode 1 review. I'm not and have never been a huge Star Wars fan but I get it and like 3-5. I'd seen parts of them as a kid but somehow watched a couple prequels before the original movies. It was only about 7ish years ago that I sat and binged them all so I was in my 20s before I'd seen any Star Wars with more than a basic pop culture knowledge of it. Still, even when I only knew Vader was his Father and Fett was a badass and lightsabers were awesome laser sticks I KNEW those prequels sucked as basic cinema. They were simply bad films, not just bad Star Wars films. So, oddly, my initiation into Star Wars was first a couple prequels (with nephews) and then watching them in order of release on bored weekend. It made 3-5 that much better.

slimj091

December 18th, 2015 at 1:14 AM ^

As long as it's labeled spoilers in the title then it's fair game. Threads like these in any forum with the exception of facebook, and twitter are for fan's who have seen the movie to discuss amoung themselves. If you haven't seen the film then you shouldn't be in this thread. If you have seen the film then you shouldn't discuss it in area's of the internet that have not been labeled as containing spoilers.

This is common knowledge.

Gucci Mane

December 18th, 2015 at 2:42 AM ^

I have to see it again, but my first impression is that it is a damn good movie. I have to decide still just how good. Watching it the first time I was too excited to properly judge it.

A Fan In Fargo

December 18th, 2015 at 3:19 AM ^

So the whole Jar Jar Sith Lord was way out in left field I think. All of them guys should be thrown into a pool of ice water for making me fall for that crap.