OT: Russia banned from international sports for 4 years, including Olympics and WC

Submitted by reshp1 on December 9th, 2019 at 11:01 AM

The World Anti-Doping Agency has handed down a 4 year ban on all international competition for Russian athletes for tampering with and falsifying testing data. This includes both winter and summer Olympics and the World Cup. Russian athletes not directly implicated may choose to compete under a neutral flag.

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-banned-from-all-global-sport-including-2020-oiympics-and-2022-world-cup-11882206

xtramelanin

December 9th, 2019 at 11:10 AM ^

yeah, what about that.  they still get to compete and i'm sure putin will fill their bank accounts with rubles if they win something, just like if they weren't caught.  its kind of like if ohio finally got caught but still could play football with no penalty other than not having the band spell out 'o-i-h-0'....

1VaBlue1

December 9th, 2019 at 11:22 AM ^

Sort of like when they did get caught, and had 5 players banned from the next season's first 5 games.  They were allowed, however, to play in the upcoming (2011) Sugar Bowl, largely because they were 11-1 and had a shot at the MNC that season.

Thanks for the hardcore penalties, BT and NCAA!

reshp1

December 9th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^

It really depends on how liberal they'll be applying the "implicated" standard for barring individual athletes. If they ban only a few directly implicated, then it's bullshit. If they lump in anyone associated with a certain sport or training facility that's known dirty, I'd be ok with it. There are undoubtedly clean athletes who don't dope (ie. Sports that don't benefit from it) who would be screwed over by a blanket total ban. 

UMProud

December 9th, 2019 at 11:06 AM ^

Always wondered why Hotel Putingrad's 90 lb 14 year old gymnasts could squat 700 lbs now we know!

Wonder what would happen if the world anti-doping folks monitored NCAA football programs?

BlueMk1690

December 9th, 2019 at 11:07 AM ^

On a related note - what exactly is the anti-doping approach in college sports? Are there unannounced random tests after games and practice sessions including camps?

MichiganG

December 9th, 2019 at 11:11 AM ^

More bark than bite, since Russian athletes can still compete.  The uniforms still generally say "Russia" (following 'Olympic Athlete from'), so they just don't play the Russian anthem (though as we saw in the Winter Olympics, the hockey players and crowd sang it loud enough to drown out the Olympic anthem that was playing instead.)  So while this sounds like a significant penalty it is functionally nothing at all for what was a systematic attempt to game the system.

I can't decide whether this penalty - of NCAA penalties - are less impactful.

momo

December 9th, 2019 at 11:16 AM ^

I actually quite like the approach. Important to remember that most Russians are actually normal people just like us, and that the main problem is with the kleptocracy at the top. So this way, non-cheating athletes get to compete but people are reminded at events that the country's leadership is extremely corrupt.

Obviously that's the positive spin, reality is a bit messier but still closer to that than the extreme view that all Russians are bad.

Perkis-Size Me

December 9th, 2019 at 11:33 AM ^

I personally think it would be really cool one day to host some kind of world athletic competition that DOES allow doping. 

People are going to keep doping anyway. Might as well have a competition with it to see just how far the human body can reach. 

Wolverine In Iowa

December 9th, 2019 at 12:32 PM ^

FINA (swimming governing body) was trying to save Chinese golden boy Sun Yang, after his blood sample vial was smashed after a test (bodyguards apparently smashed it).  FINA let him off the hook, but WADA is going after him hard in an appeal.  He faces a lifetime ban if he's "convicted" by WADA (decision coming in a couple of months).

Medic

December 9th, 2019 at 12:59 PM ^

Yeah, that, among other violations, they've had over the years has been an unbelievable case of "Why the f*** are these athletes allowed to compete?" I guess they're just not as brazen as the Russians until Sun Yang came along. Anyone with a pulse knows they've been cheating their asses off for decades, they've just improved the masking techniques. 

They had 40 swimmers get caught in just an eight-year span back in the 90s. They've managed to whittle that down to roughly one swimmer every other year or so. 

Wolverine In Iowa

December 9th, 2019 at 1:13 PM ^

The Chinese had the same East German guy who was doping up the DDR women in the 70's and 80's...then the Chinese started winning a lot of swimming.  No coincidence.  US women (who are not without shame as well) would say that they thought they heard men in the locker room at international meets - it was the Chinese women.

Satansnutsack

December 9th, 2019 at 12:26 PM ^

The sport I can think of that the ban would affect the US the most in terms of success would be wrestling.  

LSAClassOf2000

December 9th, 2019 at 2:16 PM ^

I think this means they will have to compete under the Olympic banner, if I am not mistaken. It would be so much easier for Russia to just change their flag to the Olympic flag - they seem to be going about this the hard way.