OT: Pacquiao Marquez 4
Pacquiao-Marquez getting under way right now, I guess I'll watch, hoping for Pacman to win so that there is no longer any excuse for Pacquiao or Mayweather to keep ducking each other...though you know they will keep ducking.
Here's the best stream I could find for those interested:
http://www.stream2watch.me/boxing/manny-pacquiao-vs-juan-manuel-marquez…
December 9th, 2012 at 12:38 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:39 AM ^
If he can't get out of this fight, probably never...
Pacman scores the first two rounds then gets knocked down by Marquez in the 3rd, this one could be over in 5...
December 9th, 2012 at 12:41 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:48 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:54 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:56 AM ^
There never was a Pacquiao era.
Roided up juicer.
Mayweather would have destroyed him...which is why Pac ducked him, regardless of the money.
Manny's fanboys will have to find new pastimes.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:39 AM ^
Mayweather would destroy this version of Pacquiao.
FWIW, he would have defeated the earlier roided up versions as well.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:47 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:56 AM ^
Like the last two seconds of the final round?
It wouldn't have been this close against Mayweather.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:00 AM ^
Did you find this board to be your obscure fight commentary board?
But seriously, Pacquiao/Mayweather in 2010 would have been a good fight, but today, I think Pacquiao wouldn't stand much of a chance.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:50 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:37 PM ^
Pretty sure this is a winning comment right here
December 9th, 2012 at 12:41 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:48 AM ^
Both fighters throwing HAYMAKERS at each other in that round. Maquez went down for a quick second, but both fighters were landing solid punches on each other. Score is likely close to even right now.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:49 AM ^
But probably 10-8 Pacquiao accordingly
December 9th, 2012 at 12:51 AM ^
PACMAN DOWN...WHAT A FIGHT...
December 9th, 2012 at 12:52 AM ^
He should have taken the money to get knocked out by Mayweather two years ago.
They were never in the same class as fighters.
Now he's losing to freaking JMM.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:53 AM ^
I hope Pac is actually okay after that.
Disturbing when the skills finally go.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:53 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:54 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 12:54 AM ^
...I knew this match was a mistake.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:55 AM ^
Wow wow wow. What a monsterous counter. With how that was going, this has to setup for a fifth fight.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:57 AM ^
Pac got pwned there.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:01 AM ^
You can't make the argument that he wasn't in this fight. He's always wanted to brawl with Marquez and he finally got caught. Connecting at I think it was 33% before that.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:07 AM ^
...but watching two declining boxers beat on each other doesn't cement Pac's relevancy.
Basically, he finally got caught by a guy Floyd Mayweather Schooled 10 rounds to 2 in 2009.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:13 AM ^
I've never thought he would take out Mayweather, and the Mayweather/Marquez fight pretty much showed everyone everything you needed to know. His legacy will just be the Marquez boughts (well, I guess the "Mexican killer" phase of his career more generally), and I would atleast be intrigued by them meeting up again. We'll find out if anyone else is in the next couple of months I would assume.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:20 AM ^
I'd be sad to watch them fight again.
I had Marquez at 2-1 coming into this bout due to inexplicable judging in their previous fights.
Marquez was going to have to knock him out to get the win, he wasn't winning any decisons and if they met again he wouldn't either.
At 39 Marquez has nothing to prove and should retire...as should Pacquiao.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:58 AM ^
Marquez has a lot of age on that body at 39. I doubt Pacman fights him again.
Sad things is this is only going to make Mayweather demand more of the cut if those two ever fight, and I don't think they will.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:01 AM ^
At this stage of their respective careers, Mayweather has not yet started to lose his edge but Pacquiao clearly has...fwiw, this is two straight losses for Manny. Mayweather would beat him soundly for 10 rounds and then Pac would go out.
Seriously, Pac should have taken the 40 million two years ago.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:56 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 1:00 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 1:09 AM ^
anyone in boxing ever meet anyone important?
December 9th, 2012 at 1:12 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 1:15 AM ^
Bradley is still hanging out there, there will atleast be mild interest for that.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:05 AM ^
This is what Mayweather did in 2009 to the "in his prime" Marquez:
Floyd Mayweather, Unanimous Decision (120-107, 119-108, 118-109) |
Pac's done. Any ideas about him fighting Mayweather or having any "legacy" by comparison are seriously flawed...
The steroids can only help you so much, clearly.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:29 AM ^
36 is still considered in his prime?
December 9th, 2012 at 1:31 AM ^
Besides, didn't Mayweather already proclaim his career was over because of his prison time?
December 9th, 2012 at 1:06 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 1:09 AM ^
He is also a good singer.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:17 AM ^
What a punch!
December 9th, 2012 at 1:21 AM ^
What was Joe Biden trying to do there by cradling the air around Manny's head?
December 9th, 2012 at 1:26 AM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 1:00 PM ^
looks like a scene from Rocky.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:19 AM ^
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December 9th, 2012 at 1:30 AM ^
Between this and UFC on FOX 5, it was a great night for fight fans.
It was a bad night to be a legend/fan favorite, with BJ Penn, Shogun Rua, and Pac Man all losing.
December 9th, 2012 at 8:51 AM ^
The guy who makes the commercials and gets the product endorsements right before the heavily-promoted fight gets knocked on his face.
Manny should have taken the money that was available for a fight with Mayweather 2 or 3 years ago. He still would have gotten his ass kicked, but he would have gotten the biggest payday in his life. Even if he does now agree to fight Mayweather, the money he'll get will be just a fraction of what he could have gotten.
December 9th, 2012 at 11:00 AM ^
Are you kidding? He and Arum made waaaaaaay more money by not fighting Floyd and allowing this "feud" to carry on in the press.
Almost the entirety of Pac's box office power stems directly from the fact that he has been promoted as the number one challenger to Floyd, and the only guy capable of beating him.
The moment those two fight the big pay days dry up.
If Floyd wins, Pac's still a legend, but no one gives a shit about him anymore because he's no longer the one great hope to beat Mayweather. So his box office drawing power would die.
If Pac wins, there's no more dragons to slay, and none of the casual fans who bring in the big bucks would give a damn any more, so his pay days would be severely diminished.
Arum blocking Pac from fighting Mayweather was the smartest financial decision he possibly could have made.
Floyd is the big money generator in boxing. Arum and Pac have exploited this to the tune of millions they could have otherwise never come close to banking.
December 9th, 2012 at 1:36 PM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 2:03 PM ^
Figure a 50/50 split in 2010 with the madatory drug testing that Pacquiao refused...would have generated about $50 to $60 million per fighter/camp
Now, you can't do that fight once, unless Mayweather just utterly destroyed him (quite likely but even Floyd in Vegas vs. Pacquiao would have been looking at 115-113 cards or something similar.
They could have manufactured another fight, same monies (more or less).
Now, due to his promoting himself and basically contracting services with Golden Boy Mayweather keeps a lot more than Pacquiao as a percentage. That leech Bob Arum keeps a sizeable amount for himself.
I suspect that Arum's motivation was probably, as you say, to protect Pacquiao's "legacy" by fighting the Timothy Bradleys and JMM's of the world. Guys that, literally in JMM's case, Mayweather dominated. Plainly, this strategy left a lot of money on the table and rather than cement Pacquiao's legacy, has virtually destroyed it.