OT-OSU shady SEC like oversigning
Alright, Walverine. Isn't there a jorts sale you should be going to?
April 13th, 2015 at 10:01 PM ^
Since we are all bored out of our minds and are thus in full grammer lockdown mode, Philippines and Filipinos are proper nouns and thus the first letter is capitalized.
Just curious, how did they lose the "Ph" and substitute a "F" and lose a "p" along the way?
I am sure that these type of erudite threads do not happen on RCMB or Eleven Warriors.
April 14th, 2015 at 12:54 AM ^
Let's name a discovered land beginning with a sound the natives don't even have in their alphabet/language.
Nice website from Canada to straighten it out.
So, to sum it all up:
- Philippines is the English name for the country, while –
- Filipinas is both the Spanish and Filipino name for the Philippines.
- The people are called Filipinos in English, Spanish and Filipino,
- but many Filipinos still prefer to call themselves Pilipino and their country Pilipinas.
- The national language is based on Tagalog but it has many words borrowed from languages near and far. For a time it was called Pilipino but now its official name in all three languages is Filipino.
Oh, and Philipino, Philippino and Phillippino? Well, those are just wrong.
You're pointing out THIS thread as the enlightened one that other fans are incapable of? OK...
EDIT: Weird. Something is wrong with the formatting or my computer. I didn't reply to the post above mine, nor did the guy below me reply to me.
Did he spell "Philippines" with an "F" or "Phillipenes"? Are you trying to add another layer onto a bad joke or something? Wait, maybe "Phillip Penis"... that can't be right. What exactly are you trying to say?
What comes around is all around
On a related note overly sensitive men are a turn off.
April 13th, 2015 at 11:26 PM ^
The first piece was posted here last week, but the second is new. Either way, the national press has been more correct than they thought when they have assessed OSU as "Urban Meyer has assembled an SEC team in the Big Ten."
Sadly, until recruits and their parents wise up, players will continue to be bought, cut and sold at OSU like those on a professional team.
Next time include Urban Meyer scumbag in your search.
April 14th, 2015 at 12:34 AM ^
I got negged about a week ago for saying Urban Meyer was a horrible person to have lead and shape young men from a guy on here lol. Then got negged because people got pissed when i said Michigan has been missing out on a lot of top in state recruits and told them they should follow their team more and they might learn something.
The medical team made the decision on January 12, which is way before OSU knew how many kids it would actually sign. Moreover, Dean was tweeting about a meniscus transplant in January. It sucks, but the kid's career is over.
is a career ender. Hopefully will get a degree at least.
April 13th, 2015 at 10:07 PM ^
that says otherwise. Will OSU agree to get another opinion from a respected and independent source? If what you say is true, that should take care of the bad publicity in a hurry.
April 13th, 2015 at 10:30 PM ^
FERPA and HIPPAA would prevent that from being released.
that bit of news, nor Dean's family from releasing the results, would they?
April 13th, 2015 at 10:12 PM ^
...cowboy. The report was the Dean had an opinion from a very prominent surgeron stating that he would be reafy to practice by summer.
Look, this is simple. If even the COLUMBUS, OH, sports talk radio is questioning whether Meyer is oversiging and then searching for reasons to proclaim guys medically unfit, then guess what? Meyer is doing exactly that.
Meyer has 99 LOIs in the last 4 years, right?. That is a lot, unless he redshirts very few and players are getting a ton of 'injuries.'
April 13th, 2015 at 10:42 PM ^
Or it says that sports radio is a medium that thrives on manufactured controversy. Historically, Meyer hasn't oversigned. If you look at his tenure in Florida, he averaged 23.33 players per year. That was 2nd to last in the SEC, and would have been 5th in the B1G during that period. http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2011/11/urban-meyer-ushers-in-a-compl…
It makes no sense for Meyer to cut a 4* prospect before signing day, and before the kid had even been on the field to see what he can do. The simpler explanation is that the kid blew out his knee and is unable to perform. As for the long snapper, grayshirting, while not ideal, isn't that rare. For instance, Jeremy Clark at Michigan.
April 14th, 2015 at 12:25 AM ^
First, he didn't grayshirt. He had originally agreed to grayshirt and then Hoke accepted him into the 2012 class. Second, that was a known condition for Clark when he committed. I'm not familiar with your long snapper's situation, but there's a big difference between asking a guy to grayshirt after signing day and having them agree to it months in advance.
April 14th, 2015 at 12:44 PM ^
McCullough has been rumored to be a gray shirt since he first committed. See e.g. http://thebuckeyebattlecry.com/recruiting/fbrecruiting/liam-mccullough-… ("That’s three verbals in three days...although this one is being identified by some as a 'gray shirt.'")
Was that due to Florida's policy or his own? There has been talk that Meyer was unhappy that he was put at a relative disadvantage in the SEC because of that policy. From where I sit, he's now at a place that lets him do whatever he wants as long as he wins.
April 14th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^
I believe it was a mix of Florida's policy and Meyer's philosophy. If I remember, he was quite critical of the practice, especially when kids were flat out cut from the team.
Dr. James Andrews allegedly said he would be ready to play this summer. I find it hard to believe that him and the OSU medical staff could have such widely differing opinions.
We are only over the limit if you count scholarships for 3 walkons. Then we're 1 over. We can wait until fall for attrition to open that last one up. I'd be shocked if the staff didn't already know about at least one player that won't be back. Worst case scenario probably doesn't even apply, but it's about rewarding walkons.
OSU is over the limit not counting any walkons who may deserve scholarships. They absolutely have to get to 85 by fall. On signing day, Urban admitted he didn't know how they would get there, but there were some injuries to consider. Does anyone believe their medical decisions aren't affected by their oversigning?
April 14th, 2015 at 12:34 AM ^
The explanation in its entirety makes me think of something Bob Newhart said during a routine once - "I always had this strange theory of accountacy. I had always thought, you know, if you come within two or three bucks of it....Of course, this theory never caught on and as a result I held a number of different accounting jobs..."
I look at it differently, over-signing doesn't violate any NCAA rules. Other teams use this ploy so why should bgtn team's be hamstrung with rules putting their teams at a disadvantage? You can say it's unethical or underhanded but this is big boy football in more ways than one. The kids and their parents should be aware that this is a competitive situation that might not work out. The cream will rise which also means a few kids won't make the cut. It's the world we live in and the sooner you learn that the better.
if that's the case then you might want check grades of most of the football team, they are considerably below the general student body. Lower academic standards for athletes, is that right? Probably not but if you want to be competitive you need athletes. This isn't grade school it's college where boys become men and some things in life aren't always fair. Meyer isn't doing anything that isn't going on elsewhere in college football. Over-signing isn't against the rules.
All Michigan students, including football players, have a minimum high school GPA and ACT score they must obtain in order to get admitted. Football players have to adhere to this too, which is why you see our coaches stop recruiting certain players who are academic risks.
GPA and ACT are not the only factors for admission for students. One student with a lower GPA might get accepted while a student with a higher GPA gets denied if the student with the lower GPA has more impressive extracurriculars, essays, or other items on their resume. It happens all the time and its an objective process.
April 14th, 2015 at 12:32 AM ^
A "regular" student isn't getting into Michigan with anything less than a 28-30 ACT and a 3.8+ GPA. Grades and test scores may not be the only factor, but they are the biggest.
Now I've heard some (not all or even the majority) student athletes speak publically, and I can assure you that they were not A or even B students.
April 13th, 2015 at 10:25 PM ^
give athletic scholarships to students who are not as good at football as the initial evalution indicted?
give athletic scholarships to students who are injured and are no longer are able to perform athletically?
do not give athletic scholarships to other students who are better or have more potetntial and who are not injured.
certainly continuing financial aid based on academic merit requires peformance at a certian academic level.
the future employers of these students will also require that they perform at a certain level and that they are physically and mentally able to perform their job,
April 13th, 2015 at 11:16 PM ^
April 13th, 2015 at 10:19 PM ^
There is no NCAA rule against 'oversigning' (AFAIK).
But there are NCAA rules against making up fake career ending injuries for guys that count against the scholarship limit so that you can magically get from 88 to 85 by fall practice.
The problem is that these things are hard to prove, so SEC teams (and apparently now OSU) 'oversign' and then miraculously have an extraordinary number of guys suffer 'career ending injuries' so they can make the 85 scholarship limit.
April 14th, 2015 at 12:45 AM ^
Integrity goes a long ways man! I know being a Michigan fan it might make me sound biased but i love the fact that our program does things the right way. I know that your not always going to make everyone happy but for the most part i think we do a damn good job at holding our school to a higher standard. I know we have had some blemishes with player's doing things outside of football but that's the same anywhere you go. We aint perfect but were damn close lol!