OT: Nebraska/Scott Frost fires OC, QB, OL, and RB coaches

Submitted by BoFlex on November 8th, 2021 at 8:06 PM

Looks like retaining Frost came with an ultimatum of cleaning house on the offensive side of the coaching staff. Nebraska parts way with:

  • OC/WR Matt Lubick
  • OL/RGC Greg Austin
  • QB Mario Verduzco
  • RB Ryan Held

The only offensive coach retained is TE coach San Beckton who will immediately assuming WR coaching responsibilities as well.

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— Josh Peterson (@joshtweeterson) November 8, 2021

ERdocLSA2004

November 9th, 2021 at 8:48 AM ^

It does appear that extension is the wrong term here.  I don’t believe the length of the contract was changed.  Frost took a pay cut from 5 to $4mil a year and radically reduced his buyout.  He is still contracted thru 2026.  Harbaugh was extended, Frost was restructured.

This is actually a huge olive branch by Frost.

Ezekiels Creatures

November 8th, 2021 at 8:12 PM ^

 

Better late than never they always say.

Let's see who he hires.

Hope he gets an OC that knows how to run a play successfully without having 5 men in the backfield.

 

 

trustBlue

November 8th, 2021 at 10:36 PM ^

Honestly i thought Nebraska was a pretty good team this year. I know their record doesnt show it, but they play everybody extremely tough and their resume is full of close losses to really good teams:

They lost by a touchdown to Oklahoma, by 3 to MSU, by 3 to UM, by 5 to Purdue and by 9 to OSU, which is their biggest margin of loss all year. 

To me, they felt like one of those teams that is poised to turn a corner and suddenly they are 10+ win team next year. 

Of course fans, demanded a round of firings as punishment for making them feel bad all season, but you gotta wonder if it will do them as much harm as good.   

Carpetbagger

November 9th, 2021 at 9:34 AM ^

Sometimes when you have one player doing everything it's too much for him. When they leave it's a blessing in disguise when you distribute that weight amongst the rest of the team.

Having a new Offensive brain trust will help the transition. It's a good move imho. They are close, and I'm not looking forward to us playing them while Frost is there.

Phaedrus

November 9th, 2021 at 12:24 AM ^

Better late than never they always say.

It could have waited until the season was over. They only have a couple more games to go. Now he'll have a hard time hiring good assistants because no one wants to work for someone who scapegoats their assistants and fires them mid-season.

As much as we criticize Harbaugh, this is one thing he's really gotten right. He gets rid of assistants when he has to, but he tries to do so amicably and help them move on to another job. The Hoke-approach of complete loyalty will screw you over, but so will scapegoating your assistants and firing them in the middle of the season. I would be surprised if the Nebraska coaching staff is improved next year.

JonnyHintz

November 8th, 2021 at 8:28 PM ^

At some point, you realize you’re 3-7 and you realize you have to do something to make a statement to the fans and recruits that something is being done about that. With Iowa and Wisconsin remaining, it’s unlikely a win on the field is going to accomplish that.

I wouldn’t say it’s “poorly timed.” It doesn’t hurt them in any way. Obviously doesn’t “help” them, but it’s a PR move that gives the illusion that they’re doing something about the issue to appease the fans.

JonnyHintz

November 8th, 2021 at 8:54 PM ^

It’s not going to help recruiting to fire the guys recruiting them either. I’d rather go to a school that went 3-9 than a school that went 5-7 and kept guys around to recruit me, only to fire them anyway. And that’s best case scenario they go 5-7. 


You’re 3-7. If you’re going to beat Iowa and/or Wisconsin, you probably have just as good of a shot without these guys as you had with them. You might even increase your odds with more motivated replacements (grad assistant/analyst trying out for the job vs guy knowing he’s fired soon) and fresh faces to motivate the players (probably not too thrilled with the results they’d been getting with those other guys).

Ezeh-E

November 8th, 2021 at 9:11 PM ^

I agree with your point about recruiting.

Not as sure about coaching. You saw that Saints game where their offensive staff was all out w covid. Total train wreck. While college and pros are different, I’m not convinced they can get other quality coaches in and familiar with their system yesterday. Or that their current grad assistants are ready to game plan.

M-GO-Beek

November 8th, 2021 at 9:40 PM ^

I agree with this. Any "good will" generated towards the fans/recruits will be lost quickly with a couple of shut outs and very lopsided losses. Unless Frost has replacements ready or near ready to go (who would have thought TCU would fill their vacancy so fast), then the downside of having no offensive staff for the final games will be tough to overcome.

dragonchild

November 9th, 2021 at 9:38 AM ^

Probably not.  I've never been on the inside, but just a cursory glance at any P5 roster would indicate this is a helluva PR move.

These programs have 85 scholarship players without covidshirts (I don't remember if they temporarily allowed exceeding the limit).  Either way, throw in walk-ons and you're managing over a hundred college-aged kids.  There's game prep, workouts, meetings, NCAA compliance. . . a college football program has the bureaucratic demands of a small corporation.  Oh, I'm sure every program has support staff, grad assistants, etc., but still, even a bunch of Hoke-hired ninnies are vastly more useful on staff than fired midseason, if only because there's just so much to do.  What's Frost gonna do, coach the QB, OL, and RBs on top of everything else?  Or is he just gonna have GAs do all that?

This could wind up backfiring, as the resulting implosion makes the fired coaches look much better in retrospect.

Mr Miggle

November 8th, 2021 at 8:33 PM ^

I would assume it has to do with recruiting. Do you want them out there bonding with recruits or put some staffers on the job? In the recent past, you'd wait for recruits to sign, then fire their position coach/recruiter. With transfers so easy now, that probably leads to more problems than it's worth.

jmblue

November 8th, 2021 at 8:44 PM ^

From scanning the Husker board, fans seem to think it's a PR move.  Frost went 4-8 in his first season and that was supposed to be rock bottom, yet here in Year 4 he's in danger of finishing with a worse record than that.  That would make extending him especially awkward.   Firing the assistants now might create the perception that he was shorthanded for the last two games so they "don't really count" and that his season effectively ended with the OSU game.

I'm not sure if that logic makes sense but this is the school where the N stands for Nowledge.

JonnyHintz

November 8th, 2021 at 8:32 PM ^

3-7 with Iowa and Wisconsin remaining. I don’t think “chances of winning” with coaches that weren’t going to be kept around anyway is much of an important issue for them. 
 

The flip side is, teams can get motivation from coaching changes just as easily as it can hurt morale. TCU just upset Baylor after Gary Patterson left. I just question how much “morale” there is to be lost in a 3-7 locker room and what negative impact it can have on the remaining games.

JonnyHintz

November 8th, 2021 at 8:58 PM ^

And if it doesn’t, it doesn’t. If it does, you give yourself a shot at an upset. There’s just no real downside to it is my point. At 3-7, there’s no benefit to keeping guys around that you’re going to fire anyway. You don’t want them out recruiting guys and then disappearing in a couple weeks. Better to get them out now. 

JonnyHintz

November 9th, 2021 at 2:06 PM ^

Have you seen Nebraska’s record since Frost took over? “Performance” is more than enough to warrant the firings. It should have extended to Frost himself if you ask me. They’ve been AWFUL since he got there. Losing a lot of close games doesn’t change anything. They’re paid to win, not lose close games.

Ezekiels Creatures

November 8th, 2021 at 8:48 PM ^

They're out of going to a Bowl. If I was a player on Nebraska this would inspire me. I mean, someone playing for the team not even getting into a Bowl Game.

Either way, they are in a very tough spot--at Wisconsin on the 20th.

I think he was right to let go of them. Besides, better now than at Christmas season. It has to be tough on both sides to do it at that time.

jmblue

November 8th, 2021 at 10:19 PM ^

Nebraska AD Trev Alberts (former teammate of Frost's) speaks out:

 

Key quote: "There's not a lot of empirical data out there to suggest this will work, let's be honest. But I also think, if there's a decision point - whether it's football or anything else, you know, Scott's a brother, he's a Husker, and he's a Nebraskan."

— Sam McKewon (@swmckewonOWH) November 9, 2021

Eastside Maize

November 8th, 2021 at 8:19 PM ^

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