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May 23rd, 2013 at 11:19 PM
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OT - ND paid Charlie more than Brian Kelly in 2012

LOL - Returning to glory has a price!

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9306910/notre-dame-fighting-irish-paid-charlie-weis-more-brian-kelly-2011

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May 23rd, 2013 at 11:27 PM
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Looking past the comedy of

Looking past the comedy of paying a former coach more than your more successful current coach for a moment, just what are those numbers associated with Weis's contract? Jesus, what was ND thinking when they put that thing together?

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May 23rd, 2013 at 11:32 PM
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That's his definitive

That's his definitive schematic advantage.

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May 24th, 2013 at 12:49 AM
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Better take up a second

Better take up a second collection.

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May 24th, 2013 at 1:15 AM
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Pretty simple

what was ND thinking when they put that thing together?

When ND made the contract, Weis had a modicum of success, had gone to two BCS bowls in two years. I'm pretty sure ND was expecting him to bring 1,000,000 national championships every year for the next 1,000,000 years. That's what they were thinking.

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May 24th, 2013 at 2:23 PM
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It's more humiliating than that

They gave Weis his new contract during his first season, after they almost beat USC.  At the time he signed his new deal, they were 5-2.

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May 24th, 2013 at 7:40 AM
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I don't know

But it probably wasn't going 2-3 against Michigan and Michigan State.

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May 23rd, 2013 at 11:39 PM
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Kelly only made

$1.088 from ND in 2011? That seems very low

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May 24th, 2013 at 12:56 AM
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That's just from Notre Dame, though.

Michigan pays Hoke a base salary of $300,000 with total compensation at $2.2m, so it stands to reason that Kelly is making a significant amount more than what ND reports as his base salary. I'm sure the sports networks and Adidas pay Kelly right about what they pay Hoke, which is where most of the money in a coaches contract comes from anyway.

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May 23rd, 2013 at 11:46 PM
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In a fairness, Weis's food

In a fairness, Weis's food budget is likely 10 times that of Brian Kelly, so that makes sense.

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May 23rd, 2013 at 11:54 PM
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Well, the budget he has to take care of his daughter is

Probably 10 times higher than Brian Kelly's budget for all of his kids. I know Weis gets a lot of shit, but he really is a good guy.

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May 24th, 2013 at 12:09 AM
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Yeah, but this is not the

Yeah, but this is not the place for that.  This is very clearly a make fun of Charlie Weis thread.  

FUPA.

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May 24th, 2013 at 8:18 AM
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I have heard otherwise about Weis

I have heard otherwise about Weis being a good guy. The rumor amongst contractors in SW Michigan at the time was that Charlie didn't pay the guy who custom built his house in South Bend, and the guy ended up killing himself because he lost so much money on the project. Two sides to every story, etc. but take it FWIW.

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May 24th, 2013 at 11:06 AM
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Really? This is what this

Really? This is what this site has come to? Did this guy know he could sue? Comon now, no one could possibly believe that story. 

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May 24th, 2013 at 2:32 PM
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I made it

I made it perfectly clear that what I was saying was a rumor, I disclosed the general source of the rumor, and I acknowledged that more facts would obviously be needed in order to state anything with veracity.  I see nothing wrong with that.

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May 24th, 2013 at 2:34 PM
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He apparently has a daughter

He apparently has a daughter who is autistic and has special needs. I felt bad about making fun of him when I read that.

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May 23rd, 2013 at 11:57 PM
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I went to the ND game in 2006

I went to the ND game in 2006 and domers everywhere were wearing t shirts that proudly proclaimed "Rockne, Parseghian, Holtz & Weiss"

Before we stomped their guts out that day they truly thought they had the next great ND coach at the helm.   That's why they overpaid him.

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May 24th, 2013 at 12:38 AM
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I received tickets for that

I received tickets for that game as a wedding present. Everyone was super nice "welcome to Notre dame" and all, but man did Henne and the rest absolutely embarrass them that day! It was as perfect a destruction as I have ever witnessed in person.

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May 24th, 2013 at 1:05 AM
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And Woodley.  Oh so much

And Woodley.  Oh so much Woodley.  

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May 24th, 2013 at 1:11 AM
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Those shirts are probably in

Those shirts are probably in the same place my ''May the Forcier Be With You'' shirt is--goodwill. 

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May 24th, 2013 at 7:23 AM
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Poppin tags!

Yo, that's fifty dollars for a tee shirt!

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May 24th, 2013 at 12:52 AM
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To hell with Notre Dame.

To hell with Notre Dame.

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May 24th, 2013 at 12:56 AM
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Front Butt is making BANK.

Front Butt is making BANK.

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May 24th, 2013 at 2:03 AM
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Great

Weis can buy his very own Golden Corral with that kind of money.

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May 24th, 2013 at 6:14 AM
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Weis' "Golden Parachute"...

So, if the payments for Weis' buyout are going to sit around $2 million or so and he makes about $2.5 million at Kansas (from what I can find), that would mean two schools paid Weis well over $4 million to go 1-11 at Kansas last year. 

As I recall, Weis had barely had a chance to sit down in South Bend when they extended his six-year deal to a ten-year deal, hence the 2015 end date for these payments. The extension alone was worth nearly $40 million, I believe. Part of the schematic advantage must have been getting what turned out to be something of a golden parachute up front before he even had a chance to rack up 3-9 and 6-6 seasons.

On a somewhat related note, I am sure that whoever wrote "The New Gold Standard", which was a book about how Weis was supposed to be the one to return ND to glory, feels very confident in future sales of their psychological thriller, as this is what the book must now be. 

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May 24th, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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Notre Dame gave Weis that

Notre Dame gave Weis that contract extension just 6 games into his first season. I despise them as much as everyone else but even I wondered how they could be so stupid. Then again, this is the same school that brilliantly hired Gerry Faust in 1981 because he was such a dominant HIGH SCHOOL coach.

All I could do was laugh and say that I couldn't wait for this to blow up in Notre Dame's face.

And I still hate that massive toolbag. I have some close family friends who are Kansas fans. They always liked Michigan so they root for us and since I've never had a beef with the Jayhawks, I root for them as long as we're not playing each other. But then they went and hired Weis and I had to tell them that I was sorry. I can't root for you guys in football until you get rid of that a*shole.

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May 24th, 2013 at 6:16 AM
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What were our buy out numbers

What were our buy out numbers for Rich Rod and company?

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May 24th, 2013 at 6:50 AM
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Who?

Rich Rod who?

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May 24th, 2013 at 2:26 PM
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Less than those for Weis

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May 24th, 2013 at 8:47 AM
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I screamed NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I screamed NOOOOOOOOOOOOO when I heard about that extension they signed him to.  I have a lot more confidence in Kelly than I did Weis.  Weis suffered from the same disease that ultimately ended RichRod.  Lack of a real defense.

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May 24th, 2013 at 9:34 AM
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I want his agent!

I want his agent!

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May 24th, 2013 at 9:35 AM
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ND is probably thinking they

ND is probably thinking they would have paid Weis even more to stay away.

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May 24th, 2013 at 3:39 PM
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Which school

Teaches the class, "how to fail miserably and still make filthy amounts of money." I swear we hear a new story every week about some shit bag making millions for failing.

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