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OT- NBA Draft Open Thread

Front paged, starts at 7:30 pm, pre-coverage at 7 pm.  The Please Darius make the 1st Round Draft...or the Pistons don't draft someone who sucks in 3 years (insert your own favorite team if it fits).

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June 23rd, 2011 at 5:59 PM | Predictions (Score:1)
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Darrius Morris goes earlier than predicted, Jimmer Fredette goes a little later, and the Pistons take a foreign big with a post game, or a 3pt shooter. Or they trade the 8th pick for Tony Parker or 2 picks and a big.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:13 PM | A trade for Tony Parker (Score:2)
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would be an absolute disaster and i would jump on the fire Dumars bandwagon.

Trade down for two first round picks please.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:24 PM | Personally I wouldn't (Score:1)
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like it either, but fans keep saying "we need a true point" and he is, plus he's a 3 time All Star who is currently at his age/game peak with multiple Championship experience. If we get him cheap during a bad draft with the 8 pick (if who we want is already gone) then trade him for someone we want to a team that needs a point but can't get a good one then we've done really well. Ask yourself: who from Dallas or LA or Portland would we want before ruling out a move that includes Parker.

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:34 PM | I could see (Score:2)
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that working out but I'd hate it if they field a team with Parker, Stuckey, Gordon, and WIll Bynum and no true center. 

I don't see a great move for the Pistons here.  I think the trade down for two picks would provide more options.  Jeremy Tyler is a project and risk but could be a value pick at 23

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:46 PM | Absolutely! :o) (Score:1)
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I hate small lineups. I think Joe ultimately pushes for more bigs. At times last year our PG was 6'8" McGrady and our SG was 6'11" Austin Daye and I was sooooo happy. If there were a way to get Parker and move him for PF Kevin Love I would drop dead from delight on the spot. Don Shane wouldn't even have to finish reading his name, I'd die 6 times before I hit the floor.

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:54 PM | Love is the most underrated (Score:1)
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Love is the most underrated player in basketball.  I'd trade every player on the roster(not that anybody would want them) save Monroe to get Love.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:45 PM | While the notion of the (Score:1)
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While the notion of the T'wolves aquiring yet another PG is hilarious to contemplate, I don't think even David Kahn is that stupid....

Probably...

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:43 PM | You could trade down for 14 (Score:1)
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You could trade down for 14 and 23 and get say Marcus Morris and Reggie Jackson, or you could trade #8 for Parker and get a PG who is a borderline Top-5 player at his position.  That's a disaster to you?  I'm going to be pissed if he had an opportunity to trade for T-Park and did not pull the trigger.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:51 PM | Parker has a lot of miles on (Score:1)
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Parker has a lot of miles on him and is not exactly, um, a good locker room presence, unless you have a bunch of players who want to get divorced.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:02 PM | Jason Kidd didn't seem to (Score:1)
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Jason Kidd didn't seem to bother the Mavs locker room.  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/17192202/

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June 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 PM | How's the prediction business working out, Mike? (Score:1)
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You're 0 for 2 so far.  If Darius makes it to Dallas, I guess you can claim "tie goes to the runner" and be 1 for 3.

 

 

 

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June 23rd, 2011 at 10:52 PM | Don't worry, (Score:1)
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nobody's keeping score on your 2012 recruit class predictions, Tater.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 9:57 PM | 0-3 (Score:2)
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0-3

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June 23rd, 2011 at 10:25 PM | Jinxed it. (Score:2)
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Jinxed it.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:02 PM | 2 Lithuanians probably going in the first round (Score:2)
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Success!

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:16 PM | I wish the NBA had draft and (Score:1)
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I wish the NBA had draft and follow for 2nd rounders

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:40 PM | Jazz fan here (Score:1)
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Hoping they take Kanter at 3.  Would love Williams but he'll be gone... not sold on Knight yet.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:42 PM | Kanter looks (Score:2)
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good - would be a good pick for the Jazz.  How did Memo do this year?

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:05 PM | Memo (Score:1)
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Memo was injured most of the year and when he was playing he wasn't getting that much playing time.  That achilles injury from the playoffs the year before killed him.  Just not what he used to be.  Ideally I think Utah would like to move him but probably not likely to happen. 

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:56 PM | What are the odds (Score:1)
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of the Jazz getting Kanter and BYU homeboy Jimmer? They'd be sitting as pretty as a Utah basketball team could from this draft.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:07 PM | Bill Simmons seems to think (Score:1)
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Bill Simmons seems to think this is what Utah should do.  Did Kanter ever play for Kentucky?

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 PM | No (Score:1)
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He reported to Kentucky, but was ruled a pro.  He personally never accepted anything, but played on a team in Turkey where people were paid (NCAA ruled it was a pro team).

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 PM | Yeah... (Score:2 Normal)
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A lot of people want Jimmer.  At first I did not want them to draft him at 12, didn't think he was worth it. But he has been blowing up during work outs and some people see him in the top 10.  Best part about Jazz getting him would be that he would help fill seats.  Something we need after trading D-Will.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:16 PM | He shoots the 3 (Score:1)
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like Chauncey. He moves like him too. He's boring out there, but he's very smooth. He slows you down and then explodes for 2 steps to create space. If he doesn't need to be the leading scorer then his play will change, his distribution is the only thing that needs to get better.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:45 PM | I would like to see (Score:2)
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the Pistons can either stay at 8 and get to get a defensive big or take the trade from Houston get that defensive big with the 14th and then the 23rd I would take Darius Morris  we need a true point guard and a guy that can pass the ball to Stuckey ,Ben Gordon, Greg Monroe and Darius Morris fits that mold.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 PM | Cavs taking Irving is likely, (Score:1)
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if that happens they move Baron Davis. Would we swap Rip for Davis? They need a 2 and we need a 1.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 PM | No (Score:0 Overrated)
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Don't want Davis at all.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:50 PM | wouldnt mind the lithuanian big (Score:2)
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Valenciunus? Something like that. I know he might miss next year, but so might the entire NBA. He's a legit center prospect who loves getting down and dirty in the post, and would compliment Monroe nicely on offense and defense. Biyombo would be an interesting pick as well, another nice compliment for Monroe, although not quite as nice of a fit.

Just don't pick Kemba or trade the pick in order to dump salary.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 PM | UMHoops (Score:1)
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Just an FYI - UMHoops is having an open thread as well. I think Dylan has a pretty decent grasp on things NBA (and a great grasp on college, obviously) and it should be an informative board. 

http://www.umhoops.com/2011/06/23/2011-nba-draft-open-thread/#disqus_thread

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 PM | TRADE! (Score:2 Normal)
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TRADE!

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 PM | I am a casual NBA guy at best (Score:1)
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So take it easy on me when you respond. Is this a weak draft? From my outsider perspective it looks way down.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:13 PM | Yes.  The biggest difference (Score:1)
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Yes.  The biggest difference is the lack of "tier 1" guys who can make an impact immediately, like a lebron, derrick rose, dwight howard, etc.  

 

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:14 PM | According to Chad Ford(so (Score:1)
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According to Chad Ford(so take it FWIW), said there are no teir 1 players in this draft this year.  Teir 1 players are basically players who are locks to be all-stars.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 PM | Bismack Biyambo.  All-Name (Score:2 Normal)
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Bismack Biyambo.  All-Name Team for sure.

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:32 AM | His nickname has to be Bis Mackie . . . (Score:1)
74polSKA
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and this is his theme song.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 PM | My dream Pistons (Score:1)
MGoChippewa
Joined: 01/06/2011
MGoPoints: 583

My dream Pistons scenario(assuming no trade for Parker), 1-Irving 2-Williams 3-Kanter 4-Valanciunas 5-Biyombo 6-Vesely 7-Thompson  8-Detroit- Brandon Knight.  According to Chad Ford, this sequence is not impossible. http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/category/_/name/draft-reports

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:27 PM | Agreed (Score:1)
kmoney4268
Joined: 10/14/2010
MGoPoints: 71

I would love to get knight.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:29 PM | Having watched both Irving (Score:1)
MGoChippewa
Joined: 01/06/2011
MGoPoints: 583

Having watched both Irving and Knight play on multiple occassions, I wouldn't be shocked if Brandon Knight ended up having a better pro career.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 PM | Lol a lot of NBA teams LOSING (Score:0 Trolling)
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Lol a lot of NBA teams LOSING money

Hahaha

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 PM | Sadly because there are a lot (Score:2)
freernnur5
Joined: 03/28/2011
MGoPoints: 452

Sadly because there are a lot of stupid contracts out there (see Joe Johnson making 18 million next year and all the way up to 24.8 million in 2015/2016 season).

Teams think that to keep their best player they need to overpay him as if he is the top player in the league or be at the cap. Hopefully the lockout fixes these stupid contracts.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 PM | Cavs (Score:1)
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On the clock!

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 PM | Curious to see if we see a (Score:2)
freernnur5
Joined: 03/28/2011
MGoPoints: 452

Curious to see if we see a run of trades given that this is almost the last opportunity for trades before the lockout begins.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:42 PM | I love how everybody in the (Score:1)
Musket Rebellion
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Joined: 06/30/2008
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I love how everybody in the building can hear every word that the ESPN broadcast says. 

www.wolverineliberationarmy.com

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:49 PM | 4 more hours of Stuart Scott (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
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Is painful enough on tv.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:47 PM | Guess the Pistons trading for Minny's pick (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
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Isn't going to happen. Not that it was really feasible.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 PM | Kanter to jazz. (Score:1)
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Kanter to jazz.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:51 PM | Am I the only one who LOLZ (Score:1)
MGoChippewa
Joined: 01/06/2011
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Am I the only one who LOLZ every time Stern gets booed?

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:51 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Joined: 08/12/2009
MGoPoints: 1788

Is there any way someone that's watching the draft keep a running list of the picks

Hail Yes

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:52 PM | With Kanter taken I wonder if (Score:2)
freernnur5
Joined: 03/28/2011
MGoPoints: 452

With Kanter taken I wonder if Cleveland trades out of the 4 because it doesn't need Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:53 PM | Probably not, they're pretty (Score:1)
MGoChippewa
Joined: 01/06/2011
MGoPoints: 583

Probably not, they're pretty high on Biyombo and Valanciunas as well.

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