OT: LSU RG Josh Boutte Suspended 1 Game for Late Hit
LSU's RG Josh Boutte was suspended by Les Miles for 1 game for his vicious, late cheap shot on Wisconsin CB D'Cota Dixon. That game is against Jacksonville State. Les defended Boutte saying it was out of character and that Boutte believed the play was still live, which I totally believe. /s
For those that didn't see the hit, here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzMyFlGJvMo
Boutte is 6'5", 346 lbs and Dixon is 5'10", 203 lbs. This could've done a lot of damage, but thankfully didn't.
This brings me to my question: What punishment does Boutte actually deserve?
September 6th, 2016 at 12:02 PM ^
September 6th, 2016 at 12:02 PM ^
Uhhhhh.....not cool. That hit was malicious and dangerous. This kid should be out at least half a season for that. Just totally unacceptable behavior.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:06 PM ^
Dude's a thug. The NCAA would love you to believe all of these guys are "scholar" athletes but we all know that's very far from the truth in many cases. Without football a vast majority of these guys (esp. in the SEC) would never get in these schools so the behavior isn't that surprising.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:13 PM ^
don't think you can come to this conclusion based on this one incident. I don't understand him to have any disciplinary/legal issues in the past. He apparently called the kid directly to apologize to him. One game is insufficient, I would say a three gamer would be more appropriate. However, to label this kid as a person based on his worst moment is not right. If he had one more second to contemplate his actions my guess is that he would not have done it.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:16 PM ^
You may be right - but I'm in a shitty mood and have my jump to conclusions mat out today.
September 6th, 2016 at 1:10 PM ^
What's the threshold here? And what crazy part of the country do you live in where unhinged violent behavior in a game is in any context within a normal person's range of emotions? You can't be an inherently decent person with that little self-control. There's gotta be a part of you bad enough to want to see people hurt for no other reason than they beat you, and that by itself ain't right.
September 6th, 2016 at 4:38 PM ^
Robert Reynolds tried to choke out Wisconsin QB Jim Sorgi back in 2003, causing him to have to leave the game because he was having trouble breathing and couldn't speak, and Jim Tressel and Mark Dantonio didn't even think he should be punished.
Of course, Jim Tressel and Mark Dantonio have significantly damaged moral compasses. But the Reynolds incident was, IMO, way worse than this and he only ended up with 1 game, so that set the bar extraordinaly low. I mean, he basically tried to kill the player, and also directly altered the ending of the game by intentionally taking out their starting QB (thus making a mockery of any sort of fair-play axioms), and STILL only got suspended for 1 game.
If the worst thing I've ever seen happen on a football field didn't draw a multiple game suspension, nothing will, other than brawling, which always seems to get all the suits up-in-arms.
September 6th, 2016 at 7:36 PM ^
That's a damn good reason to change things.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:06 PM ^
I'd love for a coach to kick a kid off the team for something like that. I wouldn't want to be associated with a player that took such a vicious cheap shot. But after Jeremy Hill, I actually expected this out of Les Miles.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:08 PM ^
By comparison to the USC player, this was not a "heat of the moment" penalty. It was not reactionary. There was intent.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:16 PM ^
The USC player acted with intent, also. He specifically aimed his kick after pushing a teammate away. A teammate that was offereing the guy a hand to get up. What that SC player did was every bit as bad as what Boutte did.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:45 PM ^
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September 6th, 2016 at 1:23 PM ^
I hadn't seen it real closely and assumed it was more of a quick reaction thing.
Though I'd rather get stepped on like that 100 out of 100 times than get blindsided like the Wisconsin player.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^
- Les Miles
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September 6th, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^
Eye for an eye. Someone gets a free late shot on him. He gets up and walks away, fine. His career is over, fine.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:08 PM ^
I'd say at least two games if not more.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:08 PM ^
September 6th, 2016 at 12:14 PM ^
It's a pretty brutal hit, and very hard to believe that he thought the play was live. Extremely dangerous. I don't know the precedent, but it's clearly worse than a standard targeting penalty, which is also essentially a 1-game suspension. I think half a season sounds appropriate.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:30 PM ^
If you watch the replay from behind the LOS, he gets a running start from back where he was playing RG. As everyone else is standing around and the whistles are blowing he plants his shoulder into the guy. You wrap up on a tackle. This guy clearly intended to deck the Wisconsin player and then even taunted the other Wisconsin guys who were coming to his defense.
Maybe he lost his cool for a second and he's an alright guy, but it was 100% an intentional cheap shot
September 6th, 2016 at 12:08 PM ^
Les Miles is no longer fit to run that program and should be relieved of his duties, I never seen a coaching staff waste as much NFL taste as his has in the last 5 years!
September 6th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^
We'd have a potted plant at QB if we had Les Miles and who knows what losses due to clock brain farts. Not to mention no discipline.
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September 6th, 2016 at 12:59 PM ^
Career Record: 16 Years, 140-54, .722 Win% (at major schools)
Bowl Record: 14 Games, 8-6, .571 Win% (at major schools)
September 6th, 2016 at 3:33 PM ^
Les Miles would have been a great hire in 2007. By 2011 Harbaugh had already eclipsed him IMO.
September 6th, 2016 at 3:38 PM ^
Yeah. Les Miles WAS a very good coach. It is not at all clear that he still IS.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^
was still live, I think he needs to be held accountable for his actions. Claiming ignorance is not a valid excuse for anything. There are rules and he broke them. I get that kids make mistakes, but at some point you have to throw the book at them and let them suffer for their actions. This hit could have severly injured the Wisconsin player. I think a several game suspension is warranted. If i was Les, he would no longer be on my football team.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^
September 6th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^
on LSU's sinking ship seems fair.
(Seriousness, should be a 3 game suspension)
September 6th, 2016 at 12:16 PM ^
September 6th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^
He's going to miss the game against Jacksonville State. That's going to be tough.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:16 PM ^
I don't think Jax State will win, but they're top-5 in the FCS right now. They could give LSU a game for a while.
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September 6th, 2016 at 12:13 PM ^
This is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous is the suspension of Jabari "Nutstompper" Ruffin who only will sit out the first half USC's next game. Fucking ridiculous.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^
was very much in that game when that happenned. After that, not at all. Never a wise thing to do against anybody. Against Alabama, you are just planning your own funeral when you give them any more of a reason than they need.
September 6th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^
is kind of a badass nickname
September 6th, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^
Was #4 (i think) on Texas who sent Torii Hunter Jr to the hospital with a concussion, obvious helmet-to-helmet hit across the middle of the end zone no less and no flags anywhere. Team loyalties put aside, I thought it was a complete and utter biff on the officials.
Cockran smashing Morris in the skull, etc.
I personally believe it should be reviewable if there's an injury of that type requiring an officials' timeout.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:28 PM ^
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September 6th, 2016 at 12:21 PM ^
ejected he has to serve a 1/2 game suspension from the NCAA anyway which means LSU basically tacked on a 1/2 game suspension.
Overall I think this punishment is pretty weak.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:29 PM ^
The NCAA could step in and start making these suspensions mandatory for the next conference game to add some teeth.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:21 PM ^
This was a disgusting cheap shot. Not only did it display a total lack of discipline, self-respect, and pride for your team - but I know exactly why he did it. His team lost. He didn't like that. Not one bit. Such tough competitors but sore losers? Ridiculous. Win as a team, lose as a team.
I'd say two games should do it. That's exactly the type of play we need to keep out of football to keep the sport alive.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:24 PM ^
There is precedent for a much larger suspension, and its from the NHL! Even back in 93, the NHL sat Dale Hunter for a late hit after a goal that was very similar to what Boutte did. He got 21 games - including some playoff games. It was a HUGE penalty at the time, but the hit was universally disgusting.
Boutte should see something similar.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:41 PM ^
The NCAA had two similarly disgusting incidents in two high profile games. Both should be met with 3 or 4 game suspensions. There's no reason to intentionally target a guy after the whistle has blown.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^
Once you just view the players and these games as simple entertainment, the emotional attachment leaves.
The NCAA and its officiating is the worst part of CFB. Targeting isn't called enough, and the penalty in CFB is too harsh, so it doesn't get called for fear of influencing the game too much. The NCAA turns a blind eye from the SEC and players payment. They tout 'student-athletes' and 'protecting players', when everyone knows its not true.
Whatever. Football is the circus part of bread and circuses meant to keep the masses entertained so they don't focus on their pitiful lives and overthrow the government. See it for what it is and move on.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^
I'd rather see a head coach use it as a teaching lesson for his team and set a strict precident, but it's not unreasonably low - just scraping by the bare minimum.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:35 PM ^
September 6th, 2016 at 12:37 PM ^
It doesn't really matter that their next opponent is Jacksonville State. In SEC country, if your players do something incredibly stupid, they don't sit out the very next game. The coach waits for a cupcake opponent and makes him sit out for that one.
Five years ago, LSU's starting QB and another player were arrested after a bar brawl, beating 4 other men up just one week before the season opener. They both played in that game, which was a top 5 matchup against Oregon. Les made them sit out the next week against Northwestern State.
September 6th, 2016 at 5:26 PM ^
That's why so many SEC teams schedule their annual FCS opponent for week 11.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:39 PM ^
If that was a Michigan player, you can bet Jim would rain the fiery wrath of hell upon him and probably wouldn't let him play for at least half, if not the rest of the season.
September 6th, 2016 at 1:02 PM ^
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September 6th, 2016 at 12:40 PM ^
Chip Kelly suspended LaGerrette Blount for the whole season for his sucker punch to the Boise State player after their game ended. While play had just stopped in this instance, it's still just a cheap shot after the game is basically over.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:55 PM ^
Suspend him for the whole season and let him work his way back onto the team.