OT: LOOKS LIKE SCHERZER IS OK
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+1 for the Kenny Powers reference.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT
I am in the library trying to read e.e. cummings and all this yelling is making it very difficult to get between the breasts. Quiet please.
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for the strong men
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Great news for the rotation... I also read an article the paper saying we should try to trade for Roy Oswalt (apparently he said he wants out of houston). The starting rotation could end up looking real good if that happened; sure its a longshot though.
I heard that we would have to give up someone like Porcello to get Oswalt. Would you do it?
I read that we would have to give something like 3 solid minor league prospects.
If we had to give Porcello I wouldn't do it because taking on Oswalt's huge contract wouldn't be worth the difference between him and Porcello (especially factoring in Porcello's age) IMO.
HELL FUCK NO. I didn't even want to include Porcello in the Halladay rumors last year, so no go fo O
Porcello for Halladay would have been an interesting trade. Especially with his struggles this year vs. Halladay's perfect game.
I would have taken Halladay in a deal involving Porcello any day of the week. And I promise that's in no way a byproduct of his perfect game yesterday. It's much like the Cabrera deal was: you don't turn down a bonafide ace or star in his prime (Cabrera) when it's possible your young gun won't become what you hope he will (Miller/Maybin).
I would tend to agree with you, but a pitchers prime is very different from a hitters prime. At age 33, Halladay is getting close to an age where the production drops fast.
You're right.....I do have a personal affinity for Halladay as he's pretty much always been my favorite pitcher in baseball so I probably have somewhat of a biased perspective on him. I just think he's that old school guy who will have success until he's 40....kinda like John Smoltz was.
Yeah, but with Halladay's contract situation, it would bring back memories of the Smoltz trade (I was... 4 months old?). No way the Tigers would have traded for him without a new deal for a 1 and done season, especially not with 3 top line prospects for him
It would have been very interesting.
Right on. Porcello just turned 21, I would love to have obtained Halladay but only if we could have locked him up long term.
At the time of the Halladay rumors Porcello had already shown himself to be an impressive performer on the Major League stage, where as Miller/Maybin had not. Plus Cabrera was not a great deal older than Miller/Maybin.
If the Tigers are going to give up young talent, I'd rather see them pick up Hanley Ramirez(heard the rumor from Dennis Fithian on 97.1 yesterday), I would consider giving up Porcello in that scenario, though it pains me to say so.
Hanley Ramirez would be a huge upgrade over Adam Everett, trust me on this one fellas
Scherzer has 12 strikeouts through 5 innings.
It's too bad his pitch count is so high otherwise he could have made a run at 20.
14 through 5.2 IP....he has now struck out everyone in OAK's lineup at least once.
And he's done, with 14 strikeouts, just two shy of the franchise record. It's too bad he didn't go a little longer.
not to me she didn't.
...because if she was talking to you she would have used "you" instead of "he"?
or did you mean she did use the word "he" in talking about someone other than you and that "he" went plenty long enough?
pitcher that Dombrowski was looking for when he traded for him in a three teams trade this past off-season. His velocity is up and he is striking out people(like he always has done in Arizona). It was a great call by Dombrowski of optioning him to AAA to tweak his mechanics and help his confidence. Hopefully, he'll keep it up for the rest of the season because the Tigers need all of the help they can get from the starting pitching down the road.
That my friend is the most impressive display of tweaking in at least 25 years
I know right? His velocity before he got optioned was around 91-92 mph and his velocity against the A's was 96-97 right where he was when he played at Arizona. It's looking like that it's the right call to option him down to AAA so far. He's been the pitcher that Dombrowski loves which is a power pitcher who can strike out hitters.
Scherzer's K/9 is dismal compared to his stats at Arizona so it's concerning that his went down dramatically when he first started out. K/9 doesn't really change because the pitchers tends to have the ability to strike out players regardless of their age.
K/9 doesn't really change because the pitchers tends to have the ability to strike out players regardless of their age.
Have any facts to back that up?
that I noticed over the years when I looked at pitching statistics in fantasy baseball. Also, I read the article somewhere where a GM or sabermetric mentioned that K/9 rate tends to be constant even as the pitcher gets older, but obviously there will be a cut off point in age where pitchers' skill diminish. I'm trying to find an article where they said that K/9 rate tends to stay constant over their career that is assuming that their velocity doesn't change.
In Scherzer's case, he's still young and I would expect his K/9 rate to be the same(just like his stats from Arizona) for the next few years.
Glad the Tigers won, but I'm still not sold on Scherzer making it as an AL pitcher. He could barely make it through an entire season in the NL for crite pete.
Couple of things to keep in mind about this win today:
1) The ump's strike zone was ridiculously pitcher-friendly.
2) Oakland isn't a great hitting team to begin with and, because of their previous two victories, they were due for a game like this.
Scherzer's abilities aside, I just don't understand Dombrowski's love for "power arms" when 81 of the Tigers' games are played at Comerica where contact pitchers, especially lefties like Kenny Rogers, excell.
and he's just a kid, go easy on him. Fwiw he struck out FOURTEEN Major League Batters today.
...on what your definition of "kid" is. Scherzer is 25 and in his 3rd year in the majors. Contrary to what most fans believe, he's only one year younger than Edwin Jackson, the "veteran" pitcher they traded him for.
All I know is he was 9-11 with a 4.12 ERA last season in the quadruple-A ball (aka NL), and had the Diamondbacks convinced he wasn't a full-time starter.
did that come from?