OT-Kim Jong Un status

Submitted by Special Agent Utah on April 25th, 2020 at 1:39 PM

Well it’s been almost 5 days since the rumors that he was in dire straits started to surface and he still hasn’t been seen or heard from in public. Now more sources are suggesting that he’s either dead or in a permanent vegetative state. 

I personally believe he’s already joined the great socialist revolution in the sky and the current powers that be in the DPRK are trying to get all their ducks in a row before announcing the news because they know that all hell is about to break loose. 
 

WesternWolverine96

April 25th, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^

I am starting to wonder

There are reports that he is alive but no brain function

I don't even know if this is a good or bad thing, big power vacuum since he killed all his rivals

Special Agent Utah

April 25th, 2020 at 3:38 PM ^

Except how can Trump supporters possibly make any jokes about Biden’s mental soundness considering who their leader is?

That’s like Lions fans talking shit to another team’s supporters about how much they suck. 

xtramelanin

April 25th, 2020 at 1:47 PM ^

i can try to find the article, but the story seemed pretty credible in that it came from someone with legit ties to/from PRK.  kim had heart surgery, complications arose, close to death, docs from china were hurriedly flown in to try and save him, not successful or at best, still in a coma.  

that guy is undoubtedly destined for hades and i can't say i'd be sorry to hear that he has already started his trip there.  

EDIT:  here is some background...

But what now has North Korea under the microscope is a Facebook post by Chang Sung-min. He is a former staff member under the late Kim Dae-jung, South Korea’s president from 1998-2003. While Kim Dae-jung embarked upon his infamous “Sunshine Policy” that sought to appease Pyongyang, earning him a visit to North Korea and the Nobel Peace Prize, it did nothing to change the course of North/South relations. But it gave Chang Sung-min, now a congressman, the chance to develop and maintain good relations with Chinese intelligence sources. As such he, in turn, has proven credible in the past concerning North Korea.

What Chang Sung-min shared in his post is alarming. He reported Kim Jong-un had undergone surgery and slipped into a coma. Remaining incapacitated, an urgent call allegedly went out to Beijing for medical assistance. That team rushed to Pyongyang but was allegedly unable to revive him. The next day, Chang back-tracked on this, saying the dictator was still alive but comatose.

and some comments on successors:

During the last decade of founder Kim Il-sung’s 46-year rule, he paved the way for his son, Kim Jong-il – the current leader’s father – to take over. When Kim Jong-il did so in 1994 at age 53, it was the first-ever successful father-to-son transition of power in a communist country. Similarly, Kim Jong-il then started paving the succession road towards the end of his 17-year tenure for his son, Kim Jong-un, to take power at the youthful age of 26 in 2011. Thus, for almost seven decades, North Korea’s power transition has been linked to the Kim family’s bloodline, fed by a personality cult built up around it. Accordingly, any non-blue blood would have difficulty justifying a grab for power without a Kim family member involved.

Another candidate is Kim Pyoug-il, 65, the paternal half-brother of Kim Jong-il, and thus Kim Jong-un’s uncle, who, until July of 2019, was one of North Korea’s top envoys in Europe, serving in Yugoslavia, Hungary, and most recently Czech Republic. While Kim Pyoug-il has spent the previous thirty years representing his country in Europe, interestingly he was beckoned back to Pyongyang last year without explanation.

The last possible bloodline claimant, although a long shot, is Kim Han-sol, 25. He is the son of the half-brother of Kim Jong-un, assassinated in 2017.

J.

April 25th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^

No, because there are enough problems going on in the world right now; the last thing we need is a dangerous power struggle in an unstable, nuclear-armed state.

A potential Kim successor could easily decide to use the distraction of pandemic to attack the South.  A leaderless DPRK is a problem that requires the full attention of Japan, ROK, the US, and the PRC.

J.

April 25th, 2020 at 3:12 PM ^

There are nearly 24,000 US troops stationed in South Korea, approximately 50,000 US troops (and 40,000 dependents!) stationed in Japan, and about 12,000 US troops stationed in Guam, which is US territory.  Not to mention 10 million South Koreans living in Seoul, about 30 miles from the DMZ.  And that's assuming that North Korea doesn't have functional ICBMs.

If North Korea falls apart, it's not just China's problem.  It's a regional problem, and it's a US problem.

kehnonymous

April 25th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^

I'm right there with you as far as 'fuck China and NKs' respective governments', but unfortunately there's a over a billion people who are that much closer to a geopolitical crisis, so no thank you.

Because as bad as a stable-but-awful nation-state may be, an unstable one is so much, much worse, and even if one doesn't care about the fallout towards the Chinese and Korean people (which you should) and geopolitical instability will inevitably involve the USA, and not in a good way.

J.

April 25th, 2020 at 2:02 PM ^

I don't think China wants to take over the DPRK.  What would be their motive?  It's been a useful puppet state for them; they get to antagonize the US in relative safety.  Taking over means having to find a way to feed 25 million starving people, almost none of whom are ethnically Chinese nor speak the language.

What China wants is a pliable figurehead who can be counted upon to rattle the nuclear saber only when instructed to do so, and who can find a way to feed the people and reduce the refugee flow.

EMBA21

April 25th, 2020 at 2:43 PM ^

Balance the political theater with the enormous aid burden China has to deal with, and a constant state of imminent refugee disaster potential along their border. Not really that useful of a relationship at the end of the day.

J.

April 25th, 2020 at 2:52 PM ^

Sure, but if China were to invade, they'd just be internalizing the aid burden and refugee disaster.  It doesn't improve things any for them.

The world's best hope might be that China persuade the DPRK to pick somebody a little less bent on throwing 100% of the country's economic energy into weapons and who will try to build a functioning market economy.

Chadillac Grillz

April 25th, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^

This just in 3-star dictator from North Korea just committed to play football for the University of Michigan. My sources tell me he is a back-up plan to Andre seldon... If Seldon can't shut down Julian Fleming the Michigan coaching staff is hoping The Korean dictator will be able to at least contain him. Back to you Tom!

bluewings

April 25th, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^

I heard he indulges in expensive bottles of champagne and other boozes. He’d be a good contributor to our nightly “what are you drinking” threads 

bronxblue

April 25th, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^

I assume he's either dead or close to it; it seems like they'd have rushed him out for a public appearance if he was capable of it.  I do wonder who takes over with him gone; his son is 10 years old and while there's a dynastic rule in place, a kid is way less scary than a homicidal adult who can hold grudges if there's an attempt at overthrowing him.

Perkis-Size Me

April 25th, 2020 at 2:16 PM ^

Assuming he actually is dead or permanently incapacitated, I won’t be surprised to see his generals tear each other apart over who should rule.

My understanding is he has no sons who are of age, I doubt North Korea is the kind of state that is open to letting his sister rule (or any woman for that matter), and didn’t Un have his brother killed a few years back? The list of in-family successors is pretty slim. 

Even if one of Un’s sons rules, he’d be a puppet ruler, with one or more of the generals pulling the strings.