OT: Kevan Thibodeaux wants to play skool, Pete Finebaum takes offense
Kevan Thibodeaux has caused ESPN SEC apologist and Harbaugh nemesis Pete Finebaum offense for taking swipe at Alabama’s academic reputation in spite of recent improvements to institution, with Pete apparently misunderstanding that the reason ‘Bama has said reputation is due to years of relative academic neglect.
January 13th, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^
Sorry kids, it looks like the media embed function is broken so you will just have do an old fashioned copy-and-paste of the URL to read the story:
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2022/01/paul-finebaum-calls-kayvon-thibodeaux-stigmatism-of-alabama-education-argument-lame-and-stupid.html?outputType=amp
January 13th, 2022 at 8:02 PM ^
On the contrary, the link "chain" function is alive and well.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:04 PM ^
Glad you could make this work. When I tried to do it in the original post I just kept getting he spinning wheel of death. Probably because I posted from my phone. Thanks for embedding.
January 14th, 2022 at 3:02 AM ^
“I’ve lectured there”
Not really building a strong case there Pete
January 14th, 2022 at 8:08 AM ^
Do they mean “stigma” or “astigmatism”?
January 13th, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^
Sorry kids, it looks like the media embed function is broken so you will just have do an old fashioned copy-and-paste of the URL to read the story:
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2022/01/paul-finebaum-calls-kayvon-thibodeaux-stigmatism-of-alabama-education-argument-lame-and-stupid.html?outputType=amp
January 13th, 2022 at 7:14 PM ^
Paul is mad his team lost.
January 14th, 2022 at 8:56 AM ^
At the end of his rant, he talks about how Kayvon could have won more at Bama, when he literally said he did not care about winning as much as getting an education LOL
People in the SEC really think that winning a football game at 21 years old, is more important than the rest of your life.
January 13th, 2022 at 7:18 PM ^
Thanks for posting but I'm not clicking that Ole Pete can suck it
January 13th, 2022 at 8:01 PM ^
....and he can also....
January 13th, 2022 at 7:23 PM ^
Why even give ol' Jugears the time of day?
January 13th, 2022 at 8:08 PM ^
He has some whomping hearin lobes don’t he?
January 13th, 2022 at 11:11 PM ^
His head is essentially the James Webb telescope of hearing. I bet the guy can hear a mouse fart from Australia with those satellite dishes he calls ears.
January 13th, 2022 at 7:26 PM ^
Public Universities rated by US News
Oregon #42 Alabama #67 Michigan #3
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public
January 13th, 2022 at 8:03 PM ^
Acceptance rates:
Michigan 26%
Oregon 80%
Alabama 82%
Tennessee, Finebaum's alma mater: 78%
Big Ten: Northwestern 9% -> Michigan State 76%
https://www.univstats.com/comparison/big-ten-conference/admission/
January 13th, 2022 at 8:12 PM ^
It looks like Iowa (84%) is the last selective school in the Big Ten, not MSU, to be fair.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:46 PM ^
Yeah but not being assholes goes a long way too
January 13th, 2022 at 8:51 PM ^
Least and last?
January 14th, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^
Your comment makes me realize my post implied Staee was worst. I had intended to show the range with two related programs, one academically kin, and the other another Wolverine state cousin, but didn't make that clear.
However, I do like MGoBleu's perspective.
January 13th, 2022 at 7:33 PM ^
I’m not saying this because I have a strong allegiance to Alabama, but I know the university well. I’ve lectured there.
Way to prove his point, Paul.
January 13th, 2022 at 7:57 PM ^
Self burn!
January 13th, 2022 at 7:35 PM ^
Is this a thread about Kayvon Thibodeaux, the talented Oregon edge player? Or does he have a brother?
January 13th, 2022 at 7:37 PM ^
yeah but the kid kinda ruined the soundbyte by accidentally saying stigmatism instead of stigma.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:12 PM ^
Demonstrating that he, indeed, chose Oregon instead of Michigan.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:43 PM ^
do you mean to say that his remark about bama didn't exactly pass the eye test?
January 13th, 2022 at 7:41 PM ^
@PaulF, you mad bro?
I don't get the academic argument between a UCLA/Michigan/Stanford vs Oregon!
Nike money? Oregon duh!
Academics? Stanford/Michigan
January 13th, 2022 at 7:42 PM ^
This was meant to be a little tongue-in-cheek. To be fair, and with no animus toward Paul Finebaum, I actually agree with him and am genuinely impressed with many of the young men on their team who are articulate, ambitious and directed, and genuinely good people on and off the field. Bryce Young and LB Will Anderson are the epitome of good ambassadors for their program. And yes, Alabama is a much stronger school now, having improved greatly even if many people refuse to acknowledge it.
It is also ironic that Thibodeaux, who is equally if not more so impressive, made such an impassioned case without recognizing the irony that Oregon is not head-and-shoulders better than ‘Bama at least so far as academics, or rather academic reputation, is concerned. In this light, his choice to attend Oregon is somewhat baffling considering he could have really had it all with academics and access to Nike and Phil Knight by accepting his offer from Stanford.
That said, Thibodeaux has a point. ‘Bama has its reputation for a reason and it is not because of its historic commitment to scholarly excellence. Overcoming decades of lagging academics can’t be turned around by only a few more decades of success on the gridiron helping to attract better funding, better faculty, and better students.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:07 PM ^
I interpreted it as being about Alabama in general, not the university. The state is ranked 47th (of 50 of course) for education and I think it was 50th in the recent past.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:12 PM ^
I agree. He overplays Oregon > Bama. It is, but marginally. But he is smart about working for Nike, a global brand and #1 in it's sector, if football didn't work out. That's a great pitch for Oregon.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:33 PM ^
I took his comments to be more focused on the expectations of football players as students more so than the whole school. Bama and Oregon are similar academic schools in ranking. I’m guessing Oregon may allow their football players more freedom in what they major in and how much time they devote to education than at Alabama. I doubt Saban gives a shit about his players getting degrees. His expectation is that you are in the weight room, film room, and practice field. Take care of that school stuff if you have time. To that end, a football player at Oregon has a much higher chance of coming out of college with a much better education than at Alabama even if the schools in general have similar academic rankings.
Writing this made me think of another question, when was the last time a team lost a player to academic ineligibility? This used to happen on a regular basis 25+ years ago. Somehow magically no football player gets poor grades anymore.
January 14th, 2022 at 9:51 AM ^
Last year (2020), the SEC (at least Alabama) started to let players wear "SEC" patches with the word "Graduate" if the player had already graduated. Since Alabama won the championship, I became quite familiar with that patch, and I found it very impressive. I would say it was close to 1/2 the players on the field who wore those patches..guys like Mac Jones, Devonte Smith, Alex Leatherwood. That speaks A LOT to the type of culture at Alabama; one, that they can get players there who want to graduate, and, two that those players stick around long enough to do so. That was probably the biggest difference between last year's team and this year's, not having those 4th and 5th year players. Having that type of experience and leadership throughout your team is a huge advantage. Say what you want about Saban, Alabama and the SEC, it's hard to argue that Alabama has not only talked the talk, they've also walked he walk.
January 13th, 2022 at 7:46 PM ^
Alabama has an 83% acceptance rate. You need a 1060 on the SAT to be considered. You get 800 on the SAT for signing your name.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:10 PM ^
Cool Story Bro: I sat next next to Alabama Professor Geroge C. Rable when he was runner up at the 2011 Lincoln Book Prize award. He lost to a Fiery Trial.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:43 PM ^
oh man is he ok?
January 13th, 2022 at 8:12 PM ^
Neg away gentlemen, but I think Pete is right for once. They say that the broken clock is right twice a day and that's the case here. I really think people are underselling the value of an Alabama GED, it's a mighty thing.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:22 PM ^
imagine giving a shit what Finebaum says about anything
January 13th, 2022 at 8:30 PM ^
I thought this was a thread about Thib not declaring for draft but staying in school, which I then figured: obviously! The Lions pick second! Smart move, Kayvon, smart move!
January 13th, 2022 at 8:54 PM ^
I am glad I wasn't the only one who thought that.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:52 PM ^
Pete’s right. Don’t you know, their engineering classes are above and beyond better than most. Just ask Da’Shawn Hand! Couple that with Pete doing lectures, and it’s a winning recipe. #1 public university, national championships be damned.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:55 PM ^
Pete’s right. Didnt you know their engineering classes are above and beyond better than most? Just ask Da’Shawn Hand! Couple that with Pete doing lectures, and it’s a winning recipe. #1 public university, national championships be damned.
January 13th, 2022 at 9:01 PM ^
I take it he hasn’t seen the waterfalls yet.
January 13th, 2022 at 10:05 PM ^
Pretty sure he's using the word "stigmatism" incorrectly.
edit: Oh, it was the player, not PF. Nuts!
January 13th, 2022 at 10:30 PM ^
I choose to believe that Alabama football is the only thing in Alabama other than a bunch poor people in overalls and no shirts.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:35 PM ^
Says more about you than it does people in Alabama.
January 14th, 2022 at 12:40 AM ^
How do you know it was an Alabama fan that invented the toothbrush?
Anyone else would have named it the teethbrush.
January 14th, 2022 at 7:38 AM ^
This is possibly the most elitist bullshit I have seen on here in a while. Even in jest, ripping down people because they are poor is pathetic. Grow the fuck up.
January 14th, 2022 at 8:31 AM ^
Name checks out...
January 14th, 2022 at 1:39 AM ^
Boy that was uncomfortable....for Joel Klatt.
January 14th, 2022 at 6:25 AM ^
He has a point though - I hate AL as much as anyone but the campus is spectacular and it's not like it's Ferris State or anything it's a real university. They have like, professors who went to Harvard and everything.