OT: Joe Tiller Passed

Submitted by Sinsoftheschafer on

Purdue is reporting the passing of Joe Tiller, one of their all time greats.  It made me think, who has had the greatest impact in B1G football over the past 50 years?  Tiller has to be near the top of that list.

drz1111

September 30th, 2017 at 12:01 PM ^

He was one HELL of a coach and a great offensive mind. He won at Wyoming (!) and Purdue (!) and produced two NFL QB stars. Always thought it would've been damn interesting to see what he could've done with high-end talent.

Vengeful Barbarian

September 30th, 2017 at 2:59 PM ^

And I wonder what the backstory is on that oven. What was it last used for?  Maybe to cook some tator tots for breakfast, or to broil one of those small and delicious free range chickens. Perhaps it was a thin crust Sicilian style frozen pizza from California Pizza Kitchen, or maybe a baked potato with all the fixings to go with that thick dry aged ribeye steak that is on the grill.

Mike Damone

September 30th, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^

His offenses, with Drew Brees and Kyle Orton running the show, were a force and fun to watch.  I still remember fondly him kicking Notre Dame's ass with that offense, and the Irish looking dazed - they couldnt figure out where the pain was coming from next.

He changed the Big Ten with that offense, pushed it to move beyond "three yards and a cloud of dust."  

RIP, Coach Tiller

NittanyFan

September 30th, 2017 at 12:21 PM ^

Purdue actually lost their first game under Joe Tiller --- by 2 scores to Toledo.  

If message boards existed then, the theme would have been: "LOL, new coach, same Purdue."

The Notre Dame game was next --- and you're right, that was the coming-out party.  Billy Dicken passed for about 350 yards and Purdue football had launched into their new era.

Mike Damone

September 30th, 2017 at 1:16 PM ^

was a fun game to watch.  Could not believe that was Purdue when I saw it.

My other favorite was 2004.  I was in Vegas and had bet $50 on Purdue v Notre Dame at The Mirage.  Bunch of Domers in there talking shit.  Kyle Orton went 21-31 for 380 yards, beat Brady Quinn and ND, 41-16.  The Domers at the sports book were drunk, pissed and depressed, watching Purdue put in the 2nd string against ND in the 4th quarter.  I swear that is the most fun I ever had in Vegas watching a game - the Boilermakers in Notre Dame stadium, just running up and down the field, scoring at will.

 

NittanyFan

September 30th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^

as you said, that Notre Dame game was something.  First win at South Bend in something like 2 generations and it was a total demolition.  They were a legit MNC contender.

Then the last-minute back-breaking fumbles in back-to-back October home games: Kyle Orton fumbling vs. Wisconsin then Dorien Bryant on the Ernest Shazor hit.

They honestly never recovered - either short-term (ended 2004 losing in the Sun Bowl) or long-term.  They were ranked #5 for the Wisconsin game and #12 for the Michigan game.  Never higher than #12 since.

ldevon1

September 30th, 2017 at 12:07 PM ^

What was his impact on the B1G, that stands out. Calling RR a snake oil salesman. That had a brief run, but so did Pat Fitzgerald, John Cooper, George Perles, and a select group of others who won briefly, but couldn't maintain.

Mike Damone

September 30th, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^

are comparing George Perles to Joe Tiller?  Joe Tiller was a brilliant offensive mind that made Purdue relevant, and with his "basketball on grass" offense, changed the BIG's approach forever - both with the offense and how to defend that offense. 

George Perles was a mediocre to bad coach, one of a thousand who got promoted beyond their ability to perform (the "Peter Principle").

The comparison is asinine.

ST3

September 30th, 2017 at 12:23 PM ^

I couldn't stand him, but he won a Rose Bowl at MSU and was the coach for some really good Steeler defenses. He was not the most creative coach, but calling him mediocre to bad is equally asinine.

ST3

September 30th, 2017 at 3:01 PM ^

Won 2 big ten championships in his 12 years there. How many have we won in the last 12 years? Zero. He probably lost his energy the last few seasons, but he made those UofM-MSU games competitive while he was there. Schembechler regularly destroyed sparty until perles showed up. Wait, why am I defending the guy?

LSAClassOf2000

September 30th, 2017 at 12:26 PM ^

I mean, Drew Brees, Kyle Orton, and a rather lengthy list of in-demand players came out of Purdue in his time there. He also got Purdue to a Rose Bowl in 2000, which for them is a hell of an achievement. That, and as others have said, the dude could coach and won at his stops. 

Just be respectful, if you have nothing nice to say. It's very simple. 

ralphgoblue

September 30th, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^

Tiller brought the hurry up offense to the BIG10 .11 of 14 teams use some type of hurry up offense.

He coached 10 years at Purdue and went to 10 bowl games.In an era where they didnt let everyone into a bowl game.

The Man Down T…

September 30th, 2017 at 12:32 PM ^

missing bowl games in 12 years at PURDUE??  or 5 top 25 finishes in those 12 years for a program that is usually a bottom feeder.  Or only 3 losing records in conference.  This was at Purdue.  A team that hasn't had a coach with a winning records since he left. I think that's a pretty good impact

FrankMurphy

September 30th, 2017 at 6:42 PM ^

Totally appropriate thing to mention upon someone's death. "He had a significant impact on his profession, and his influence will continue to be felt. RIP." "Yeah, but he called me an asshole that one time! And what about all the games he lost?"

victors2000

September 30th, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^

I just learned about it on the ticker as I'm watching Joe talk about Drew Brees on Big Ten Elite. It took a moment for it to register that I was watching a man who just passed away

Zoltanrules

September 30th, 2017 at 12:21 PM ^

To answer OP's Q. Tiller made a huge impact but  I think Hayden Fry had the biggest impact. It was the big two and little eight until he came along. HIs staff was incredible as well:

Former Fry assistants or players who have taken over as head coaches at a Division I-A college football programs include:[4]

Jasper

September 30th, 2017 at 12:39 PM ^

Why use $h!t?

Here's my answer to your question: This is a sports blog. Football is prominently featured. Tiller had an interesting career and Fry is one of many good comparisons. I don't see how a discussion of other coaches tarnishes this thread.

I think you should be content. Most "thoughts and prayers" posts don't result in any useful discussion. They're just circle jerks of virtue signalling.