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Bill Hicks was only a weekend drinker. He'd start on Saturday and end on Friday.
November 6th, 2015 at 10:36 AM ^
I'm a light drinker...I start drinking when it's light out.
November 6th, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^
if you don't start in the morning.
November 5th, 2015 at 11:00 PM ^
Less than one nowadays. Can't handle hangovers anymore.
November 6th, 2015 at 8:16 AM ^
I go for it once in a while given a fun social setting, but most of the time, the next day cost outweighs the added fun.
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November 6th, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^
a weekend drinker
November 5th, 2015 at 11:00 PM ^
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November 5th, 2015 at 11:46 PM ^
Not enough!
November 6th, 2015 at 12:18 AM ^
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November 5th, 2015 at 11:01 PM ^
Less than 1 day a week. But... lots of reasons behind that one.
As for what is and isn't appropriate, if you're drinking more days than not, that's usually not a good sign.
November 6th, 2015 at 12:21 AM ^
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November 6th, 2015 at 8:53 AM ^
And even then he's probably wrong. Better to drink one drink every day for 7 days than 7 drinks in one day for your health.
November 6th, 2015 at 7:33 AM ^
Dude was asking what is and isn't appropriate. Perfectly acceptable response.
November 6th, 2015 at 9:13 AM ^
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November 6th, 2015 at 10:45 AM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 3:16 PM ^
Woah, the OP mentioned things about what is and isn't appropriate and I gave an opinion from personal experience, certainly wasn't from any type of moral high ground, but a "I've been there and it got a lot worse for me" ground.
Also, my comment wasn't about having a beer or a glass of wine more days than not, but getting buzzed or drunk more days than not. Even then that doesn't mean someone has a problem though, hence why I said "usually not a good sign."
November 6th, 2015 at 12:37 AM ^
Is it a bad sign if you drink every night, but not getting drunk?
I love a couple fingers of scotch when I get in & wind down.
November 6th, 2015 at 1:47 AM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 3:42 AM ^
I know more people with "normal" lifestyles than not that have at least one beer or glass of wine per night.
I don't, but I don't see what's wrong with having a drink every day.
Getting shitfaced every day is completely different. But taking the edge off work and having one cold beer while you relax after work and catch up on your shows or one glass of wine with dinner isn't going to hurt anyone or anything.
IMO, those people are much more responsible than those who get BOMBED on the weekends, but don't drink during the week.
Speaking in generalities, once called being a college student, the other is being an adult.
November 6th, 2015 at 7:53 AM ^
which I agree, so I enjoy a glass now and again. For taste and health.
But others say that alcohol changes your body's pH in the wrong direction and adds unnecessary sugars. So, I balance the Whiskey with some apple cider vinegar the next morning and call it a draw.
November 6th, 2015 at 9:11 AM ^
body PH is junk science.
November 6th, 2015 at 10:34 AM ^
Aside from within the GI tract, no food or supplement will have an effect. The blood is too strongly buffered; its pH needs to stay constant, otherwise...you dead.
November 6th, 2015 at 1:13 PM ^
Hey look, it's the sciencebasedmedicine.com bros backslapping each other over having read the same HuffPo article that took things out of context.
No proponent of the alkaline diet is out there telling people they can alkalize their body with salad. It's resource-draining work for the body to make sure the pH doesn't deviate from 7.365 and prevent system breakdown from metabolic acidosis. The point of the diet is eat foods that can help your body perform its acid-base regulatory functions by replenishing these resources, thereby increasing overall health. The available evidence supports this theory: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3195546/ (there's been much more support after this review).
And it's just a diet framework with a name, like any other one, not a prescription. Some people can eat fruits, veggies, nuts, etc., keep sugar intake low, and avoid junk and processed foods without needing a framework, some people need a branded diet with a list of rules and a premise that ties it together. It's more of an individual thing.
The only thing being perpetuated is the misinterpretation of what people are saying, presumably so that people who need to attack something to feel like they're smart will have some concept to attack (even if it doesn't exist).
The lesson here: always do the knowledge yourself. Don't rely on the mainstream media and popular sentiment to feed it to you.
November 6th, 2015 at 2:44 PM ^
1. I don't read HuffPo, so sorry, you've stuck out there.
2. Backslapping science based medicine? LOL ok
You obviously have a real bug up your ass about people who disregard junk science as . . .
junk science. If that's your thing thats fine, but my original response was to a single comment about how "I had some whiskey, now next morning I'll have some a apple cider vinegar." (I assume to "balance things out")
YOUR BODY DOESN"T WORK THAT WAY STUPID!
I'm not a doctor, but I suffer from enough serious ailments, and have done enough research to have learned that simply changing the PH level of your piss on a day to day basis is not going to affect your blood, or so far as modern medicine states your overall health.
We haven't learned everything there is to about nutrition yet, including how much if any a long term PH based focus has. I'm all for more extensive studies on this. Maybe they'll have more definitive results. But they really haven't yet.
Don't worry though, Men's finess beleives you because they asked as "certified health coach". http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/diet-qa-what-it-means-…
That article is complete bullshit, and thats exactly the type of thing I'm talking about.
I know, I know if only the big bad mainstream (or should I say lamestream ;-) media wasn't so in the pocket of big AG the world would see you're right about evrything.
Maybe you should spend some more time with your unvacinated children.
November 6th, 2015 at 3:38 PM ^
Yeah angry guy -- my post explained that the alkaline diet was promoted as a diet framework, not as a something that will decrease your body's pH level (to correct your presumption that this was true), and I provided links to peer-reviewed articles in science journals in my comment that provided evidence the diet was good for people.
But instead of acknowledging and replying to that (or, really, anything I wrote), you responded to a Men's Health article that only you brought up, made some reference to corporate farming control of media that I'm not really understanding the relevance of, and said I have unvaccinated children (apparently to mock me).
Seems like someone's having trouble accepting that their presumption was said to be wrong and reacting to that by arguing with their own random thoughts and slinging random insults.
November 6th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^
I mean, seriously -- simply suggest that eating salads and avoiding fast food might be good for your overall health and suddenly you're perpetuating "bullshit" junk science without sufficient long-term comprehensive studies and not vaccinating your children?
Maybe those anti-alternative health reactionary tendencies have been tuned a little too high? Or maybe you're just not clear when you're trying to be sarcastic? It's hard to imagine you could actually be serious.
I just don't think there's any reason people who choose to go on an alkaline diet should be lambasted as misinformed and paranoid. Just because you read an article that disproves that an alkaline diet will change your body's pH doesn't mean anyone actually promoted that idea in the first place. If someone wants to go on a diet and picks a diet they think is right for them, just let them go on a diet in peace without being called ignorant and crazy. It's not too hard to live and let live.
November 6th, 2015 at 3:57 PM ^
But the group you trust is growing profit margins helping you kill yourself with their "knowledge".
If you have "serious" medical problems how come the doctors haven't been able to help you?
And why wouldn't you try something "alternative" if nothing else has helped?
November 6th, 2015 at 4:15 PM ^
in the actual hell are any of you talking about? Is this discussion related to like cleansing and all of that?
If you want to be healthy, drink a lot of water, walk or run 30 minutes per day, don't smoke and don't eat between meals or before bed. It also helps if you don't consume exorbinant amounts of alcohol on a daily basis. There need be no discussion of PH or alkeline levels.
November 6th, 2015 at 7:54 AM ^
I believe the majority of research on this would say that having one drink per day is no worse for you than having zero drinks per day, except for the increased caloric intake and unless you have some other health issus (physical or psychological) where you shouldn't be drinking.
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November 6th, 2015 at 10:15 AM ^
Fucking Canadians with their big hemp cartels.
November 6th, 2015 at 9:20 AM ^
Guh. Please spare me the 'big corporate alcohol' garbage. Alcohol is one of the most studied substances out there (which we cannot say for weed). Unless you're accusing every single scientist out there who has found any shred of evidence showing benefit of moderate alcohol consumption of being in pocket of a big conglomerate. Yes, there will always be some very smart and educated people who do studies with ulterior motives. That's why all research should be presented to the community to frisk and critique before it is added or rejected to the greater body of knowledge. But the vast majority of researchers are just people that want to do a good job and add true knowledge to society. As for alcohol, yes, it can lead to bad things in moderation. But there's no evidence that it will lead bad things (in moderation). There's also some eveidence that it may benefit you. So like most things, we just don't have a great answer. But nothing we know says you're definitely harming yourself by having a drink per day.
And guh at that article you link; it completely lacks nuiance and full of logical fallacies. Written like someone with some preconcieved notions, or maybe he's just not good at expressing his ideas. That first bullet point is terrible. The alcohol we use to sterilze is not the type of alchol we drink. And besides, pretty much everything we put into our bodies is toxic to it. It's a good thing our bodies are made to deal with those; something the author seems to ignore. As for addiction, anything can be additctive. Addiction is not a physical dependence; its a psychological condition. You can get addicted to eating too much vegitables. Now, granted, the consequences of being addicted to alcohol are a hell of a lot worse than vegitables, but saying alcohol is harmful in everyone because some people have addiction is ridiculous. And while he is correct that there is no large long term randomized clinical trials about alcohol consumption for benefits, there's hardly any of those for anything, because they're incredibly difficult to do. So while he seems to want to conclude that this means you can't count on the health benefit of alcohol, he seems to ignore that it also means you can't count on the health harms of alchol either. And his argument out HRT lacks any nuaince. HRT was found to cause more harm when used for long term. We still use it safely for a few years, usually for problomatic hot flashes in menopausal women without any long term cardiovascular detriment. But he seems to ignore that. Any doctor that makes blanket statements like that is doing a disservice to their patients.
Ok, this went a lot longer than I thought, but since I typed it out, I'm not deleating any of it
November 6th, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
tl;dr Pretty sure all I said was "it's debatable." Wasn't asking for a debate. Golly, some people with their defensiveness...
The weed comment was a half-joking reference to Mr. Yost's remark that being an adult is having a cold one every night in front of the TV to relax every night. I also wasn't inviting a weed vs. booze debate, and your comment about weed not being the very most researched topic has no relevance to anything said. It just reveals a strong bias on your end.
The sum of the evidence, to me, indicates that wine and beer may have mild cardiovascular benefits from properties of grapes and hops respectively, but that alcohol is also a toxic substance. If the reason you're drinking is for the health benefits, you're being stupid. It's certainly not medicine. I also think the biggest effect of the mainstream media's infatuation with any study purported to show mild health benefits from drinking is that people with abuse problems use it as a justification or to rationalize, which is not a good result at all. Drinking is for socializing. There are countless other much better things you could do if you're looking to avoid heart disease.
November 6th, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^
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November 6th, 2015 at 9:57 AM ^
All depends on how and why you drink, in my opinion. I'd say in an average week I drink probably five nights a week. Usually 1 or 2 drinks with maybe 3 on a Saturday night. I can probably count on one hand the number of nights in the last six months I've gone beyond 3. I don't drink for purposes of getting drunk or to deal with stress, I drink because I like the taste of beer, bourbon and occasionally wine. Anyone that thinks what I do is inappropriate is probably a puritanical asshole, so I'm fine with that.
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